Lily Of Laguna => Ladies Lounge => Topic started by: northernblue on November 21, 2024, 06:26:14 pm
Title: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: northernblue on November 21, 2024, 06:26:14 pm
The AFL is pleased to confirm that the 2025 NAB AFLW Season will commence the week beginning August 11, 2025.
The season start date is two weeks earlier than the previous season and coincides with Round 23 of the 2025 Toyota AFL Premiership.
The 2025 NAB AFLW season will encompass 12 home and away rounds over 12 weeks, with no compression and four weeks of finals. The AFLW pre-season dates have also been confirmed, with clubs returning to training on Monday, May 19.
The 2025 NAB AFLW Grand Final will be played on Saturday 29 November.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: LoveNavy on August 12, 2025, 09:18:19 am
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: crashlander on October 22, 2025, 04:23:27 pm
A big downer for 2026: Sunny Lappin has chosen to play for Gold Coast. :( :o :o :o
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: kruddler on October 22, 2025, 04:29:09 pm
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Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: DJC on October 26, 2025, 04:53:06 pm
There has been a lot of discussion by the “experts” about the current crop of AFLW players having played junior footy and moving on to senior footy without a break. As a result, they are said to be more skilful and more natural footballers than those who played in the first few seasons of AFLW.
While there’s some truth to that, I still think that Erin Phillips is the best all round AFLW player by some margin. And then there’s the Irish girls who, unlike Australian cross-coders, have had absolutely no exposure to Aussie Rules before their first training session.
Dayna Finn and Erone Fitzpatrick are two of the best and most skilful players on our list. If it wasn’t for the occasional Gaelic Football touch, it would be easy to believe that they’d grown up playing Aussie Rules.
So, while an uninterrupted footy journey clearly contributes to good skills and footy nous, an athletic girl with stamina, strength, good hand/foot-eye coordination and an aptitude for team sports can be equally adept at the game.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: kruddler on October 26, 2025, 07:46:19 pm
There has been a lot of discussion by the “experts” about the current crop of AFLW players having played junior footy and moving on to senior footy without a break. As a result, they are said to be more skilful and more natural footballers than those who played in the first few seasons of AFLW.
While there’s some truth to that, I still think that Erin Phillips is the best all round AFLW player by some margin. And then there’s the Irish girls who, unlike Australian cross-coders, have had absolutely no exposure to Aussie Rules before their first training session.
Dayna Finn and Erone Fitzpatrick are two of the best and most skilful players on our list. If it wasn’t for the occasional Gaelic Football touch, it would be easy to believe that they’d grown up playing Aussie Rules.
So, while an uninterrupted footy journey clearly contributes to good skills and footy nous, an athletic girl with stamina, strength, good hand/foot-eye coordination and an aptitude for team sports can be equally adept at the game.
You are trying to use a few outliers to throw shade on the majority view.
Its clear to every man and his dog, women too, that the AFLW standard is the best its ever been and by some margin. Go back and watch some old games and compare to what is presented now. Your average quality game today is the equivalent of the early (Dees vs Dogs) all star games.
Yes there are a few great players today who didn't play previously, and there were a few great players before who didn't play previously. Erin Phillips is an outlier and was already an elite athlete who grew up with footy in her blood courtesy of her old man, which is a unique case - an outlier.
I've used this in relation to Darcy Vescio, which proved evident again this week that the field has very much caught up to what was considered elite early on.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: DJC on November 01, 2025, 12:36:07 pm
There has been a lot of discussion by the “experts” about the current crop of AFLW players having played junior footy and moving on to senior footy without a break. As a result, they are said to be more skilful and more natural footballers than those who played in the first few seasons of AFLW.
While there’s some truth to that, I still think that Erin Phillips is the best all round AFLW player by some margin. And then there’s the Irish girls who, unlike Australian cross-coders, have had absolutely no exposure to Aussie Rules before their first training session.
Dayna Finn and Erone Fitzpatrick are two of the best and most skilful players on our list. If it wasn’t for the occasional Gaelic Football touch, it would be easy to believe that they’d grown up playing Aussie Rules.
So, while an uninterrupted footy journey clearly contributes to good skills and footy nous, an athletic girl with stamina, strength, good hand/foot-eye coordination and an aptitude for team sports can be equally adept at the game.
You are trying to use a few outliers to throw shade on the majority view.
Its clear to every man and his dog, women too, that the AFLW standard is the best its ever been and by some margin. Go back and watch some old games and compare to what is presented now. Your average quality game today is the equivalent of the early (Dees vs Dogs) all star games.
Yes there are a few great players today who didn't play previously, and there were a few great players before who didn't play previously. Erin Phillips is an outlier and was already an elite athlete who grew up with footy in her blood courtesy of her old man, which is a unique case - an outlier.
I've used this in relation to Darcy Vescio, which proved evident again this week that the field has very much caught up to what was considered elite early on.
I'm really not sure what you're on about.
Yes, the footy skills across the AFLW are better than they were in the first couple of years of the competition. Being ably to play footy and not having to switch codes is a factor in that improvement, as is the greater professionalism of the competition, more training and better coaches. However, no-one has yet come close to Erin Phillips' all round mastery of the game or Darcy Vescio's elite ability to kick with either foot, and her torpedo goal last night was a timely reminder of just how good her foot skills are.
Then there's inaugural players Jasmine Garner, who is probably closest to challenging Phillips' best ever tag, former basketballer Anne Hatchard, and soccer convert, Shannon Campbell, all of whom bring up their 100th AFLW games this round and, while they may not all be classed as elite, are certainly better than most.
The point I was making is that Irish girls with absolutely no exposure to the game can master the skills in one season and many can reach elite level after a couple of seasons. Provided they have good athleticism, stamina, visual perception, spatial awareness, balance and dedication, good training and skills development can bring them up to, and in some cases, beyond the footy skills of girls who have played the game continuously. The same is true for Irish players in the AFL, many of whom can kick the ball better than teammates who have gone from junior footy through elite pathways to AFL.
It's not because they're Irish. It's because their potential was recognised and nurtured properly ... and bad habits not allowed to develop. The same is true for the cross-coders who continue to be recruited by AFLW clubs.
Phillips, Vescio, Garner, Hatchard, Campbell, the Irish girls, and countless cross-coders aren't "outliers". They are simply examples of how individuals with the right attributes can become very good to elite footballers despite not having a footy pathway.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: kruddler on November 01, 2025, 01:32:37 pm
What i'm getting it as you using a select few to prove a point. The select few are the exception, not the rule.
Look at irish blokes who played for Carlton....all with previous athletic ability etc, just needing to be trained up as you say.
Tuohy S. Ohailpin A. Ohailpin Sheahan Byrne Shields McDaid Monaghan Duffy
Tuohy the only real success. Ohailpin had limited success but that was more about his physical attributes than footballing ability. The rest were a bust. Yes, some played the odd game and had the odd highlight, but were not able to be trained up and developed.
Going back to AFLW... The girls you mentioned as 'not outliers' are sitll outliers. They are still just a handful or so across the competition.....and most of them still played 'boys footy' up to a certain age anyway. I think Vescio had to stop at about U13s from memory. I would also argue that despite a wonderful torp, Vescio is far from elite right now. Pittonet is 'a hack' and he managed a similar torp at a similar time.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: Thryleon on November 01, 2025, 03:46:13 pm
Byrne could play, he just wanted to head back to Ireland. The others i cant tell you much about.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: crashlander on November 01, 2025, 04:52:10 pm
Our Irish: Tuohy - we probably made a mistake not wanting him badly enough, but we thought we had replacements. S. Ohailpin - I like Setanta. He never quite made it, but it wasn't through want of trying. Injuries didn't help. A. Ohailpin - had a lot going for him, but couldn't seem to find the right spot. Sheahan - we missed our badly when Sheahan got injured. He had the athleticism that Tuohy lacked and a left foot like a missile. Then he had his knee go and the complications ... two years later and he couldn't run the same any longer. A huge disappointment, Byrne - had what it took, but was homesick. Then he got injured. Shields McDaid Monahan - He was very ordinary in that first season. However, he impressed a lot more last yea and might make it yet. Duffy - coming from a long way back with his knee injury, but he defended quite well in the last half of the year. His knee will be better in 2026, so hopefully he can improve as much as Monahan did.
We are drifting a little off- topic here, and I'm equally to blame. Please continue this discussion in the recruiting threads; there is clearly something to discus.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: DJC on November 01, 2025, 05:45:43 pm
What i'm getting it as you using a select few to prove a point. The select few are the exception, not the rule.
Look at irish blokes who played for Carlton....all with previous athletic ability etc, just needing to be trained up as you say.
Tuohy S. Ohailpin A. Ohailpin Sheahan Byrne Shields McDaid Monaghan Duffy
Tuohy the only real success. Ohailpin had limited success but that was more about his physical attributes than footballing ability. The rest were a bust. Yes, some played the odd game and had the odd highlight, but were not able to be trained up and developed.
Going back to AFLW... The girls you mentioned as 'not outliers' are sitll outliers. They are still just a handful or so across the competition.....and most of them still played 'boys footy' up to a certain age anyway. I think Vescio had to stop at about U13s from memory. I would also argue that despite a wonderful torp, Vescio is far from elite right now. Pittonet is 'a hack' and he managed a similar torp at a similar time.
You’re missing the point; of the Irish AFL players we have recruited, only Tuohy had the required attributes but Setanta wasn’t too far off. We’re a lot better at picking AFLW Irish recruits and cross-coders with those attributes.
How many AFL and AFLW players who have grown up playing footy fail to make the grade? A much higher percentage than Irish recruits and cross-coders!
The “experts” claim that a footy pathway is responsible for the improvement in AFLW. It’s one factor. An Irish girl, who may never have seen the game played, can learn to play with skill and flair far beyond that of many of her teammates. Similarly, many Aussie girls can make the transition to AFLW from other sports without playing footy in their formative years. Our lineup includes Jess Good, Maddy Guerin, Keeley Sherar and Gab Pound, as well as the Irish girls. They’re not outliers.
And Darcy Vescio’s kicking with either foot, with or without the torpedo, is unmatched in the AFLW.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: Lods on November 01, 2025, 08:21:16 pm
SBS are reporting North Melbourne have broken a 72 year old record. The most consecutive wins, beating Geelongs 1952-53 record. Seriously ::)
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: kruddler on November 01, 2025, 08:24:27 pm
SBS are reporting North Melbourne have broken a 72 year old record. The most consecutive wins, beating Geelongs 1952-53 record. Seriously ::)
Thats been in the media for the past month.
Technically its the greatest winning streak in VFL/AFL/AFLW history.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: Lods on November 01, 2025, 08:50:46 pm
AFLW is not AFL. Records shouldn't cross over.
One competition has been running for over 120 years. A fledgling competition in it's infancy will always throw up skewed results like this. It's only just settled on its final make-up. In effect, it's only just beginning.
It's a fine achievement, but is in no-way comparable to the efforts of a team like Geelong. I understand the need to promote the women's game but let it be against it's own standard. It'll actually be easier in respect of most records not to be compared.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: kruddler on November 01, 2025, 08:54:43 pm
One competition has been running for over 120 years. A fledgling competition in it's infancy will always throw up skewed results like this. It's only just settled on its final make-up. In effect, it's only just beginning.
It's a fine achievement, but is in no-way comparable to the efforts of a team like Geelong. I understand the need to promote the women's game but let it be against it's own standard. It'll actually be easier in respect of most records not to be compared.
A record is a record.
It doesn't overshadow what the cats of 70+ years ago did, it just highlights that what we are in right now is a very unique situation.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: Lods on November 01, 2025, 09:09:11 pm
I'm not going to argue this one. Folks will have their own opinion as to the legitimacy of the claim. From my point of view I find it a bit bizarre comparing records over two completely different competitions.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: DJC on November 01, 2025, 09:27:49 pm
You’re right Lods, it’s a meaningless comparison. A bit like giving a winning run in the Ammos the same status as a winning run in the VFL … or a WAFL record and an AFL record.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: kruddler on November 01, 2025, 11:07:23 pm
I'm not going to argue this one. Folks will have their own opinion as to the legitimacy of the claim. From my point of view I find it a bit bizarre comparing records over two completely different competitions.
Who has the most tennis singles grand slam wins? Most people will tell you it's djokovic with 24. However margaret court also had 24. Did that not count because its a different competition? You can do similar with golf etc
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: Thryleon on November 02, 2025, 09:49:40 am
I'm not going to argue this one. Folks will have their own opinion as to the legitimacy of the claim. From my point of view I find it a bit bizarre comparing records over two completely different competitions.
Who has the most tennis singles grand slam wins? Most people will tell you it's djokovic with 24. However margaret court also had 24. Did that not count because its a different competition? You can do similar with golf etc
what's the world record for the 100 metres dash?
Do women's have a seperate world record?
You can say what you have said, and its correct, but im sure that we wouldnt cross code those streaks if other sports yielded a team with this record.
It actually loses credibility to attempt to do so.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: kruddler on November 02, 2025, 09:51:51 am
Based on how the last round has gone so far, we are locked in to 5th spot, which is as good as we could hope for.
Adelaide play Fremantle today.....whoever wins goes 7th and knocks the Eagles down to 8th. We will then play Eagles (again) in week 1 of the finals.....this time at home. (If crows/freo draw, we play Freo at home)
If/when we win in week 1, we play the loser of 1vs4 Assuming Brisbane (4th) will beat Collingwood (15th) it will mean Kangaroos play Hawthorn in week 1 of finals. This will mean we will almost certainly play Hawks in Week 2 of the finals....at Hawthorn.
If we manage to win that, we will end up playing, most likely, against Melbourne or Brisbane in week 3 (Hopefully Melbourne beat Brisbane in Week 1, meaning most likely play Melbourne in week 3)
Then it would be GF where we'd meet the all conquering Kangaroos and hopefully end their legacy for fairytale season.
Short version, 5th means we avoid Kangas and potentially don't leave Melbourne for finals.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: kruddler on November 02, 2025, 09:59:46 am
Who has the most tennis singles grand slam wins? Most people will tell you it's djokovic with 24. However margaret court also had 24. Did that not count because its a different competition? You can do similar with golf etc
what's the world record for the 100 metres dash?
Do women's have a seperate world record?
You can say what you have said, and its correct, but im sure that we wouldnt cross code those streaks if other sports yielded a team with this record.
It actually loses credibility to attempt to do so.
All i'm saying is facts are facts. You can give it as much, or as little, credibility as you want as that is your right.
I do a bit of trivia nights and they like throwing a 'curveball' sports question in there from time to time.
Its usually something like... Which Australian tennis player had the highest singles ranking in the world during the year.....XXXX
On numerous occassions, the answer is a woman - eg Sam Stosur.
Nobody is suggesting Sam Stosur is better than any male tennis players over the same time, but facts are facts.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: DJC on November 02, 2025, 10:08:37 am
39 Irish women playing in the AFLW this season.
Perhaps the AFL could wind up Gold Coast and bring in an Irish team 🤔
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: LP on November 02, 2025, 01:53:12 pm
A work associate went to the Hawks / Norp game Friday night, he tells me he was astounded by the support for Norp, almost more than he has seen at some of the AFL team's games. He said for a Dawks home game the Norp fans probably outnumbered them 3 to 1.
No surprise then they are doing so well.
I suppose for Norp they must look pretty good if they are pulling crowds that are a comparable fraction of the men.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: DJC on November 02, 2025, 04:37:07 pm
^ Refugees from North AFL supporters?
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: crashlander on November 07, 2025, 07:57:12 pm
Grace Egan told to move on from Richmond after their poor year. Do we bother to be interested? I still feel betrayed by her wanting out, to be honest. Richmond also delisted Lauren Brazzale and Lulu Beatty, who used to play for us.
And at Sydney, Beck Privatelli has retired. She was certainly a better player once she left us.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: Gointocarlton on November 07, 2025, 08:21:08 pm
Grace Egan told to move on from Richmond after their poor year. Do we bother to be interested? I still feel betrayed by her wanting out, to be honest. Richmond also delisted Lauren Brazzale and Lulu Beatty, who used to play for us.
And at Sydney, Beck Privatelli has retired. She was certainly a better player once she left us.
There was an article about Grace Egan recently. She had 3 stints in hospital and lost something ridiculous like 20kg. Busted her butt to get back but her body wasnt ready and got soft tissue injuries. Then worked her back from that into some half decent form.
Was harsh to cut her.
I was gutted when she wanted out. Still, she made her decision and we've moved on.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: kruddler on November 08, 2025, 09:41:43 am
In case people missed it.
Kangaroos dominated the Hawks last night.
Hawks were kept to 0.3 for the entire game. Kangas managed 5.12.
Hand them the cup now?
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: Thryleon on November 08, 2025, 10:10:27 am
Hawks were kept to 0.3 for the entire game. Kangas managed 5.12.
Hand them the cup now?
Not that I dont think they will win it, but what were we saying after geelong destroyed Brisbane in the finals and neale broke down? 3 weeks is a long time in footy.
The longer they keep winning the closer they are to a shock loss.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: kruddler on November 08, 2025, 10:13:26 am
Hawks were kept to 0.3 for the entire game. Kangas managed 5.12.
Hand them the cup now?
Not that I dont think they will win it, but what were we saying after geelong destroyed Brisbane in the finals and neale broke down? 3 weeks is a long time in footy.
The longer they keep winning the closer they are to a shock loss.
The Cats didn't' keep the Lions goalless though.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: Thryleon on November 08, 2025, 10:15:07 am
As true as that is its more common in aflw that teams kick 2 goals for an entire game and thats on both sides. Says nothing about anyone really.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: kruddler on November 08, 2025, 12:07:37 pm
As true as that is its more common in aflw that teams kick 2 goals for an entire game and thats on both sides. Says nothing about anyone really.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: kruddler on November 09, 2025, 08:13:59 am
"More common".... than what?
Than in afl games, obviously.
Than scores ABOVE 2 goals a game in aflw? Nope.
More common than what? And why does 2 goals matter? This was 0 goals!
Top 8 teams that kicked 2 goals a game this year... Eagles - twice (including this game) Hawks - once in round 3 Blues - once against Hawks in round 2 (12 scoring shots!)
No top 8 team had kicked kids less than 2 goals in a game of aflw all year.
In fact only 1 team (gc twice) had failed to kick a goal in a match all year (0.6 twice). Finished last btw.
So Hawks are the only top 8 team to kick less than 2 goals in a game. Thus clearly the only top 4 team to do it. They also own the lowest score from anyone, for the year!
So that score is definitely an outlier no matter which way you want to look at it. If you want to diminish that by saying some other score is more common.... than whatever... then be my guest.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: Thryleon on November 09, 2025, 10:45:02 am
^^ that old chestnut, ill adjust the argument to make it look like i was right even when I was wrong?
Let me put it to you this way then if you want to adjust things like a politician does.
They kick so few goals ordinarily that holding a team to none is unremarkable. It only means stopping them from kicking 2 to 3 goals.
Got it now? Thats the opposite of impressive. Or maybe you're easily impressed.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: kruddler on November 09, 2025, 11:49:55 am
^^ that old chestnut, ill adjust the argument to make it look like i was right even when I was wrong?
Let me put it to you this way then if you want to adjust things like a politician does.
They kick so few goals ordinarily that holding a team to none is unremarkable. It only means stopping them from kicking 2 to 3 goals.
Got it now? Thats the opposite of impressive. Or maybe you're easily impressed.
You adjusted the argument to the 2 goal thing and saying how common it is... despite it not being half as common as you think.
That aside, if you don't think holding a top 4 side goalless is not impressive than that's all you need to say.
Despite their dominant performances and record winning run, not even the Kangas have held a top 8 side goalless before, certainly not a top 4 side.... and in a final no less!
So yes, i think that is impressive.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: crashlander on November 09, 2025, 05:19:24 pm
Pity Adelaide won. >:D I guess I wanted both of them to lose, but I really don't like SAdelaide.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: crashlander on November 15, 2025, 05:54:15 pm
Melbourne defeated Adelaide, which I'm not sorry about. They play North next weekend.
Title: Re: AFLW 2025 Season
Post by: LP on November 22, 2025, 04:31:40 pm
Very interesting to see the pressure the Demons applying to Norp, either way the winner is going to come out of a tough game to the GF.
As usual, PF week yet again brings the best games, AFL or AFLW.