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Title: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: crashlander on March 19, 2025, 09:18:54 pm
All ready for tomorrow. This will probably be my last Thursday night game of the year.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: LP on March 20, 2025, 07:36:59 pm
Free Kick Hawthorn
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: tex on March 20, 2025, 07:37:32 pm
Anyone is better than Lewis young. Anyone
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Professer E on March 20, 2025, 07:37:43 pm
Does this surprise you in any way? 
Second to the ball does you no favours.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: LP on March 20, 2025, 07:40:16 pm
Cerra legged no free kick
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: LP on March 20, 2025, 07:49:03 pm
They're first to setup in D50 when we have the footy, and first in their F50 when they get the footy.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: LP on March 20, 2025, 07:50:24 pm
They're in front in their F50, and they're in front in our F50.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: tex on March 20, 2025, 07:54:23 pm
Zero forward structure.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: tex on March 20, 2025, 08:02:50 pm
Lmao Lewis Young
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: LP on March 20, 2025, 08:03:27 pm
We are so predictable, they have 2 or 3 extras at the fall of the ball no matter where we kick it.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: cookie2 on March 20, 2025, 08:06:53 pm
Hawks fwd Screaming Jay Hawkins certainly putting a spell on Young!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 08:07:11 pm
People say we are inconsistent, I say we are consistent. We dump silly kicks out of defence to their fwds consistently, Young gets pushed off the ball consistently, free kick hawthorn is consistent.
Pressure is good, what it needed to be in fact.
What I would do for a decent small or two.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 08:09:22 pm
Lewis Young doing his best Haynes impersonation from last week.

Haynes at least looks better this week.

Ollie has a bit of Kade Simpson about him the way he goes about it from half back. Reckon that will be an inspired call come seasons end.

TDK should have a field day tonight, and currently, is doing exactly that.
Hopefully he doesn't blow up too early.

Small forwards are out there.....if only we could get them to do something. Little bits of pack-pressure is about all we've had.

Good start. Nothing outstanding, but at least its game on so far.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: LordLucifer on March 20, 2025, 08:10:27 pm
There is a little more fight tonight but the system isn't there.

On the flipside, the Hawks look a lot more composed & in control.

When that pumpkin Chol starts taking marks, alarm bells should be ringing.

Does Motlop know anything about this game or which team he is playing for ??
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: PaulP on March 20, 2025, 08:11:09 pm
Hawks were on top in the first half of that q, but I think we fought back well. Gutsy. Keep it up boys.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 08:11:53 pm
Had to laugh just then, Motlop lines up on Day at the centre who wins the clearance? Terrible idea.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 08:14:26 pm
Hawks on track to kick 18 goals this quarter.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 08:15:00 pm
Quality Ball Use vs Cacca
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 08:17:25 pm
Silvagni with the punch on is something that is so underutilised in todays game, especially in these conditions.

Get the ball forward by any means necessary, even if it means you don't attempt a mark, just whack it forward.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: PaulP on March 20, 2025, 08:20:10 pm
Silvagni with the punch on is something that is so underutilised in todays game, especially in these conditions.

Get the ball forward by any means necessary, even if it means you don't attempt a mark, just whack it forward.

I agree.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 08:21:17 pm
Adam Saad....
(https://i.discogs.com/KBGL260llof9wTTTaXNYU94dli2rXU1wk3aVoedX1Pg/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:300/w:400/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9BLTE4NjUx/NTAtMTI3NzkwNTA1/Ny5naWY.jpeg)
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 08:24:21 pm
Free Kick Whorethorn
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 08:27:56 pm
Silvagni and Kemp are similar types for us, but i've noticed one big difference between them

One big difference between them is Kemp drops to his knees constantly and is out of the contest.
Silvagni refuses to go to his knees and stays in the contest with multiple efforts.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 08:29:12 pm
Charlie is rusty
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 08:31:22 pm
Silvagni and Kemp are similar types for us, but i've noticed one big difference between them

One big difference between them is Kemp drops to his knees constantly and is out of the contest.
Silvagni refuses to go to his knees and stays in the contest with multiple efforts.

...and right on cue....Silvagni refused to tackle to the ground, kept his feet, got the second tackle. Free kick. Goal.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 08:36:53 pm
Much better, dunno if we will run out of steam but much better.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 08:41:52 pm
Boys are up and about.

Difference between this week and last is we've worked out to kick it through the big ones instead of the little ones.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 08:43:05 pm
oh f*** me. really?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: PaulP on March 20, 2025, 08:43:24 pm
F&$*ng score review
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 08:44:37 pm
Can we please stop hacking in the fwd line straight to them, costs us a goal every time. STOP FFS
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 08:44:54 pm
Wear a tackle and hold it in for a stoppage
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Thryleon on March 20, 2025, 08:49:50 pm
Makes last weeks effort that much harder to take see us match it with this hawthorn team.  All you needed was the same level of commitment. 
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: LordLucifer on March 20, 2025, 08:50:21 pm
Way better second quarter, lifted the intensity and it paid off.

Hawks are not going anywhere so our guys have to play the game out to the max.

We have a few passengers thus far but there is a fair bit to like.

FFS, don't put the cue in the rack like last week !!!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 08:51:21 pm
Can we do this for another two qtrs? They move the ball so bloody quick.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: townsendcalling on March 20, 2025, 08:53:22 pm
5 points up yet there is so much upside with plenty of players still to make a real impact.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Micky0 on March 20, 2025, 08:53:57 pm
Can we do this for another two qtrs? They move the ball so bloody quick.
We looked so good when their link ups broke down.

Much better effort but really want to win this - hate Hawks and the commentators, Kane Cornes does not shut up!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 08:57:06 pm
Can we do this for another two qtrs? They move the ball so bloody quick.
We looked so good when their link ups broke down.

Much better effort but really want to win this - hate Hawks and the commentators, Kane Cornes does not shut up!

Fox footys feed has its own commentators now.
Seems a little limited on replays though.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 08:59:30 pm
5 points up, everybody would've taken that.

Now remember we've basically had 3 goals taken off us because of millimeters.

1. Jack Silvagni giving away a free kick on the line for sheparding the TDK goal
2. The touched on the line score review
3. Motlop hitting the post once the ball was in the umpires hand ready to bounce

Imagine if we got all them!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: deepbluesee on March 20, 2025, 09:01:41 pm
Silvagni and Kemp are similar types for us, but i've noticed one big difference between them

One big difference between them is Kemp drops to his knees constantly and is out of the contest.
Silvagni refuses to go to his knees and stays in the contest with multiple efforts.

Agree.
One of those things in footy that is hard to quantify but the ability to keep your feet and not go to ground makes such a huge difference,  some players just manage that better
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Lods on March 20, 2025, 09:02:04 pm
The forward structure is still a dog's breakfast.

Our disposal efficiency inside 50 is actually worse than last week at the moment.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 09:16:03 pm
Another fluffed possession instead of holding it in and wearing the tackle. Stoppage, voila.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 09:18:52 pm
Not making the most of our momentum/opportunities at the moment.

Tide will turn.
Can we hold them when it does?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 09:20:11 pm
2 straight to 3 behinds, can be costly.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 09:21:43 pm
2 teams out there umpire.

3 calls against us (or not paid to us) in the space of 30 seconds.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 09:23:06 pm
Poor free kick, poorer defence. two goals from very poor defensive awareness.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 09:23:21 pm
Under current rules, how is that holding the ball against mcgovern.

He was tackled instantly.
Ball spilled out and he gathered and handballed it away in 0.3 seconds.

What part of that was holding the ball??
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 09:28:02 pm
This stuff makes me cry
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 09:28:24 pm
Our own worst enemy
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 09:29:04 pm
Haynes had to get across and smash it there
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: LP on March 20, 2025, 09:29:08 pm
FMD, if our Forwards and Mids don't know where to stand, just stand next to the Dawks Defenders and learn some footy!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 09:30:49 pm
Time to bring on Lord i think.

Maybe someone like Fogarty has a spell, or even Campo.

Could take Kemp off as well
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 09:35:07 pm
Can someone file a missing persons report for Charlie Curnow.

Has not touched the ball while have been kicking to right of screen in almost 2 full quarters of footy.

Only got 2 touches going the other way
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 09:39:06 pm
Push in the back no longer a rule when tackling?

Or is that only if you are in a Hawthorn jumper?!!!
30 seconds later opposite result
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 09:40:14 pm
Father time breathing down the neck of Docherty.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: townsendcalling on March 20, 2025, 09:43:30 pm
Can someone file a missing persons report for Charlie Curnow.

Has not touched the ball while have been kicking to right of screen in almost 2 full quarters of footy.

Only got 2 touches going the other way

This is actually set up for Charlie. Bugger all all day, kicks 2 in the final quarter to get us over the line!!😁 Stranger things have happened!!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: pertz on March 20, 2025, 09:45:43 pm
Father time breathing down the neck of Docherty.
I'm not sure Hewitt and Acres can both play in the team. Too slow, disposal not great and go to ground too often.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 09:49:45 pm
Gee be nice if there defenders gave Curnow that much space (Young)
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: pertz on March 20, 2025, 09:50:52 pm
Gee be nice if there defenders gave Curnow that much space (Young)
Young and Haynes both missed the ground ball. Goal Hawks
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 09:51:58 pm
Gee be nice if there defenders gave Curnow that much space (Young)
Young and Haynes both missed the ground ball. Goal Hawks

Young left his man to attack the ball.....missed it completely.
His direct opponent gets the goal.

Its not rocket science. If you are going to leave your player, you need to get the ball.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 09:53:20 pm
Can someone file a missing persons report for Charlie Curnow.

Has not touched the ball while have been kicking to right of screen in almost 2 full quarters of footy.

Only got 2 touches going the other way


This is actually set up for Charlie. Bugger all all day, kicks 2 in the final quarter to get us over the line!!😁 Stranger things have happened!!


THats why i didn't name him as someone to take off.
He only needs 5 minutes and he could win it.
He certainly due...
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 09:56:01 pm
Lord on
Campo off
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: LoveNavy on March 20, 2025, 09:56:33 pm
Marks i50 are telling.
4 v 11. 8 different players taken those 11 marks 😵
Why are we still bombing it??
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 09:59:55 pm
Every 50-50 call is going to the hawks.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: bobby on March 20, 2025, 10:00:27 pm
The forward structure is still a dog's breakfast.

Our disposal efficiency inside 50 is actually worse than last week at the moment.

Could not agree more. Painful to watch. I just looked up that Jordan Russell is our forward coach….
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 10:00:55 pm
Every 50-50 call is going to the hawks.

....and again
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: LoveNavy on March 20, 2025, 10:04:08 pm

18 v 27 frees.
They have had the ball a lot more though
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 10:05:08 pm
Until we get elite ball users we will suffer like this.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 10:06:10 pm
Hi Viz Hawks, they are umpired under different rules.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: LoveNavy on March 20, 2025, 10:06:21 pm
Game over as far as I can see.
If nothing changes drastically, we will not play finals. Mediocre comes to mind.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: cookie2 on March 20, 2025, 10:07:31 pm
The Hawks, I hate to say it, look like a class above us. Composure v raffle it.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: LoveNavy on March 20, 2025, 10:10:33 pm
Shameful
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 10:10:52 pm

12-22 their way since quarter time.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: 31Tommys_barber on March 20, 2025, 10:12:05 pm
Anyone is better than Lewis young. Anyone
Haynes?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: LoveNavy on March 20, 2025, 10:14:47 pm
8.11 v 12.8 😅
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: PaulP on March 20, 2025, 10:16:34 pm
Faded in the last, but a much better effort against a legitimate flag contender. The Hawks are so well structured.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: LoveNavy on March 20, 2025, 10:18:06 pm
8.12 v 12.8
Laughable
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2025, 10:26:52 pm

We hit the post at least 3 times.
Had score review overturn 2 goals....and a free kick on the line deny a 3rd.

Laughable? Dunno.
Unlucky, yes.

Flip them, we win, easily.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 20, 2025, 10:31:19 pm
Faded in the last, but a much better effort against a legitimate flag contender. The Hawks are so well structured.
Yes but ball use ball use ball use
Title: Re: AFL Rd 2 2025 In Game Angst Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Lods on March 20, 2025, 10:33:06 pm
Switch the discussion to the Post game thread folks. ;)