29 - Heath Scotland - Games 264 – Turn 34 in July
Great servant for the club, came to us when we were at our lowest point.
37 – Jarrad Cachia – Games 14 – Turns 23 in May
Much better the second time around. Good insurance should we lose some midfield players. Must provide protection for our young players at VFL level.
Cameron Wood – Games 64 – Turns 27.
Insurance and now with Duigan being place on the injured list should be elevated. 204 cms can mark and kick for goal. Just not aggressive enough but maybe a year out will give him a bit of hunger.
Ciaran Byrne – 187cm Irish Speedster.
Ciaran Sheehan – 188cm Irish Speedster.
Luke Reynolds – 188cm Forward.
Blain Johnson – 187cm Forward
Patrick Cripps – 193cms ball winning midfielder.
Not expecting to see much of Cripps in 2014, big bodied mids often take a couple of seasons see Kouta, Watson and Kennedy. Plus I think he grew late as well so I doubt he’d have much fitness or core strength. Needs a couple of pre seasons and VFL time.
Cameron Giles – 195cm Key Position
Good size and seems to have very good agility. May see him this season as his weight indicates he could handle the crash and bash as a third tall.
Nick Holman – 189cm inside mid.
Good size for a mid and has that junk yard dog mentality. Get his to hang round with Mitch a bit. Again a year or two at VFL level get some strength and maybe then.
29 - Heath Scotland - Games 264 – Turn 34 in July
Great servant for the club, came to us when we were at our lowest point.
37 – Jarrad Cachia – Games 14 – Turns 23 in May
Much better the second time around. Good insurance should we lose some midfield players. Must provide protection for our young players at VFL level.
Cameron Wood – Games 64 – Turns 27.
Insurance and now with Duigan being place on the injured list should be elevated. 204 cms can mark and kick for goal. Just not aggressive enough but maybe a year out will give him a bit of hunger.
Ciaran Byrne – 187cm Irish Speedster.
Ciaran Sheehan – 188cm Irish Speedster.
Luke Reynolds – 188cm Forward.
Blain Johnson – 187cm Forward
Patrick Cripps – 193cms ball winning midfielder.
Not expecting to see much of Cripps in 2014, big bodied mids often take a couple of seasons see Kouta, Watson and Kennedy. Plus I think he grew late as well so I doubt he’d have much fitness or core strength. Needs a couple of pre seasons and VFL time.
Cameron Giles – 195cm Key Position
Good size and seems to have very good agility. May see him this season as his weight indicates he could handle the crash and bash as a third tall.
Nick Holman – 189cm inside mid.
Good size for a mid and has that junk yard dog mentality. Get his to hang round with Mitch a bit. Again a year or two at VFL level get some strength and maybe then.
Cachia is good backup material but probably needs to find a new role to stay at the club as we have so many mids and ones who are quicker and bigger.
Like to see him played in the backpocket for the NB's and see if he can fill that difficult to fill role..
Wood....will probably get some senior games and challenge Warnock for his spot.....
Byrne....wont make it IMO....too light and didnt appear to enjoy the physical side of the international rules series.
Sheehan....hope for another Touhy
Reynolds....like his skill level and I think this kid could be the real deal....love lefties who can kick goals.
Johnson......bit of a goer and a robust type of player...not as silky as Reynolds but maybe capable of playing in a few more positions
Cripps/Giles/Holman......all will get senior games at some time during the season.....Mick doesnt mind giving kids a go and I think Cripps in particular will get some games early.
Cripps only 192cm according to http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-31/21-days-to-the-draft-meet-patrick-cripps (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-31/21-days-to-the-draft-meet-patrick-cripps)
(taller than Fev and Kouta!)
193cm according to Carlton FC web site: http://www.carltonfc.com.au/player-profile/patrick-cripps (http://www.carltonfc.com.au/player-profile/patrick-cripps)
Cripps only 192cm according to http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-31/21-days-to-the-draft-meet-patrick-cripps (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-31/21-days-to-the-draft-meet-patrick-cripps)
(taller than Fev and Kouta!)
193cm according to Carlton FC web site: http://www.carltonfc.com.au/player-profile/patrick-cripps (http://www.carltonfc.com.au/player-profile/patrick-cripps)
He was still growing and still could be :-\. I think he said he grew 3cm just last year.
What is in the water he is drinking. Peptides ? Must be those chickens filled with growth hormones and anti-biotics. Not like the chickens we ate many many moons ago. They actually tasted better because they grew at a natural rate. ;D
What is in the water he is drinking. Peptides ? Must be those chickens filled with growth hormones and anti-biotics. Not like the chickens we ate many many moons ago. They actually tasted better because they grew at a natural rate. ;D
That's why I only eat chemical free chook, Green Stick. Don't go near Steggles or Inghams, a totally unnatural product.
I eat KFC. Best of the lot. ;D
Cripps only 192cm according to http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-31/21-days-to-the-draft-meet-patrick-cripps (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-31/21-days-to-the-draft-meet-patrick-cripps)
(taller than Fev and Kouta!)
193cm according to Carlton FC web site: http://www.carltonfc.com.au/player-profile/patrick-cripps (http://www.carltonfc.com.au/player-profile/patrick-cripps)
He was still growing and still could be :-\. I think he said he grew 3cm just last year.
We'll end up with a 200cm inside mid who can pinch hit in the ruck!
Cripps only 192cm according to http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-31/21-days-to-the-draft-meet-patrick-cripps (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-31/21-days-to-the-draft-meet-patrick-cripps)
(taller than Fev and Kouta!)
193cm according to Carlton FC web site: http://www.carltonfc.com.au/player-profile/patrick-cripps (http://www.carltonfc.com.au/player-profile/patrick-cripps)
He was still growing and still could be :-\. I think he said he grew 3cm just last year.
We'll end up with a 200cm inside mid who can pinch hit in the ruck!
Don't we already have one of those in Matty Kreuzer? :P
It will be interesting to see how Cripps turns out: it is looking like he will be taller than of our previous mids, as he has Kouta already covered. Setanta or Aisake? Both moved more like mids than ruckmen.
In my lifetime I have seen Big Nick and Mike Fitzpatrick as ruckmen. Cripps has then just about covered too. It says a lot about how heights of players have changed in the last 30 years. Big Nick wouldn't even be tall enough to play key position, let alone first ruck.
A few years ago we recruited Sporn as a future key defender, even though he was as thin as Bootsma and not overly tall. He was expected to grow into the role. He never did, but that was the way we were thinking. I prefer what we appear to be doing now - recruit someone who is already big enough (even if it is a "just") and if they grow, then we are better off.
It will be interesting to see how Cripps turns out: it is looking like he will be taller than of our previous mids, as he has Kouta already covered. Setanta or Aisake? Both moved more like mids than ruckmen.
In my lifetime I have seen Big Nick and Mike Fitzpatrick as ruckmen. Cripps has then just about covered too. It says a lot about how heights of players have changed in the last 30 years. Big Nick wouldn't even be tall enough to play key position, let alone first ruck.
A few years ago we recruited Sporn as a future key defender, even though he was as thin as Bootsma and not overly tall. He was expected to grow into the role. He never did, but that was the way we were thinking. I prefer what we appear to be doing now - recruit someone who is already big enough (even if it is a "just") and if they grow, then we are better off.
The Sheik and myself have being wanting this style of recruiting for 15 years and its driven us both insane over the journey and my negative views on our recruiting dept over the years have been underpinned by this madness of expecting undersized players to develop into proper sized players. .....
From the start you need to recruit players who have the size and frame to compete from day 1...forget this idea that thin little bodies can be grown into hulking KP players.....one of Shane OSullivan's infamous quotes was that Trent Sporn
could grow into the CHB we need......
Shane...what about the radical idea of recruiting a proper specialist CHB...
Cripps, Holman, Giles....all the right size for their specialist roles........
Cheating with undersize players or bit part players never works
Didn't Shane Hughes get demoted as recruiter?
Didn't Shane Hughes get demoted as recruiter?
Wayne Hughes was demoted....swapped roles with Shane Rodgers and then we recruited Luke Williams to do their job for them, then he didnt like the job anymore and quit.
Didn't Shane Hughes get demoted as recruiter?
Wayne Hughes was demoted....swapped roles with Shane Rodgers and then we recruited Luke Williams to do their job for them, then he didnt like the job anymore and quit.
Aren't Wayne and Shane just getting the guys MM tells 'em to?
It will be interesting to see how Cripps turns out: it is looking like he will be taller than of our previous mids, as he has Kouta already covered. Setanta or Aisake? Both moved more like mids than ruckmen.
In my lifetime I have seen Big Nick and Mike Fitzpatrick as ruckmen. Cripps has then just about covered too. It says a lot about how heights of players have changed in the last 30 years. Big Nick wouldn't even be tall enough to play key position, let alone first ruck.
A few years ago we recruited Sporn as a future key defender, even though he was as thin as Bootsma and not overly tall. He was expected to grow into the role. He never did, but that was the way we were thinking. I prefer what we appear to be doing now - recruit someone who is already big enough (even if it is a "just") and if they grow, then we are better off.
The Sheik and myself have being wanting this style of recruiting for 15 years and its driven us both insane over the journey and my negative views on our recruiting dept over the years have been underpinned by this madness of expecting undersized players to develop into proper sized players. .....
From the start you need to recruit players who have the size and frame to compete from day 1...forget this idea that thin little bodies can be grown into hulking KP players.....one of Shane OSullivan's infamous quotes was that Trent Sporn could grow into the CHB we need......
Shane...what about the radical idea of recruiting a proper specialist CHB...
Cripps, Holman, Giles....all the right size for their specialist roles........
Cheating with undersize players or bit part players never works
As usual, it's a huge hallelujah from me Brother Elwood, that stupid recruiting philosophy has held us back for some time and its a relief to see the new broom come in and start rectifying the problem.
Didn't Shane Hughes get demoted as recruiter?
Wayne Hughes was demoted....swapped roles with Shane Rodgers and then we recruited Luke Williams to do their job for them, then he didnt like the job anymore and quit.
Aren't Wayne and Shane just getting the guys MM tells 'em to?
Hope not. I would expect these guys to be providing very detailed write ups, including video on all prospects plus providing cut down versions so the list management can make informed decisions.
Wayne & Shane: Football Recruiters
Starring Will Ferrell and John C. Reilly.
Summer 2014.
Didn't Shane Hughes get demoted as recruiter?
Wayne Hughes was demoted....swapped roles with Shane Rodgers and then we recruited Luke Williams to do their job for them, then he didnt like the job anymore and quit.
Aren't Wayne and Shane just getting the guys MM tells 'em to?
Hope not. I would expect these guys to be providing very detailed write ups, including video on all prospects plus providing cut down versions so the list management can make informed decisions.
That would be expecting them to do the job they are paid to do. Does this exist anymore. ;D
I expect recruiting staff to find players with footy skills and not just athletic types, and players that will come on sooner and not take 5 years of potential developing, just so they move on before they really do anything at our club. Choose bigger bodies, players with skills, and players with ticker and courage.