We haven't done well at the Adelaide Oval, although we have won a couple of recent times.
Zac out for 10 weeks - most unreliable injury prone footballer in the history of the game.
We dont have anyone to replace his pace and foot skills - only Doc and Binns come close.
Lord needs a full game I feel - and probably rotate him for Ben C as substitute.
Calf. Not sure where the 10 weeks comes from. Voss in his post match said they don't know the extent. Still need to get scanned etc.
BenC needs to work on his foot skills, agree on Lord he might be handy starting vs the quick footed Crows.
Tom usually plays his worst games against Adelaide. Maybe a Pitto? I'd really like to see Tom take O'Brien to the cleaners, but it hasn't happened yet.
I saw Cerra grab at his groin late in the game, went off holding it and in some discomfort. I have since read he may have injured it. I also read SOS hurt his hand. Haynes hurt his shoulder so we may miss a few net week.
Hoping Thilthorpe and Fogarty don't play.
We might be a chance too if someone can actually play on Ben Keays and not be 100 yards off him so he cant sneak out the back for his usual quota of joe the goose goals.
Cerra returned.
SOS hurt his hand very early and returned strapped up.
Haynes hurt his shoulder and was in trouble for a bit but I don’t think he left the ground…
Read elsewhere that Jack broke a knuckle and that his hand was quite swollen at the end of the game.
You would think that could be strapped, but the swelling may be an issue.
Wait for the official report.
Not a happy hunting ground is Adelaide.
Important to treat it with respect and not get too carried away with yesterday.
Cerra will likely get a week off from MRO. Looked like a minor tap behind play but cats player flopped like he had been shot.
Bet he gets cited and one week as its off the ball which they want to stop.
A win this week gets our season back square at 4-4. It will also be a win on the road, against a form side with a multi pronged attack and at a ground we dont do so well on. This will be huge in the context of our season if we can get it done.
Agree....Id see this game as tougher than Geelong given the Crows will be on the rebound and they always look quick around the ball and dangerous down forward where Weitering usually finds Tex Walker to be a more difficult opponent than most.
Down back is where I think the Crows are vulnerable and Charlie and Harry seem to be working into form and thats where I think we can win the game if they get decent supply.
Just as we match up well on Geelong, Crows match us well - remember Marvel last year?
They have Hinge out courtesy MRO and possibly Tilthorpe with a finger fracture.
If Silvagni lines up on Tilthorpe, it might be a case of who punches who's hand first in the marking contest.
If we snag this, belief will be sky-high.....
Silvagni likely to miss having surgery on a broken hand. Dangerfield strikes again.
I believe that Jack Silvagni is to have surgery on his hand and will miss games. His knuckle must have hit solid bone when he punched Dangerfield. Lewis Young should come in for Jack.
It seems that Zac Williams has a fairly mild calf strain but he will miss games too. I reckon Doc will replace Zac but, depending on how we shuffle the magnets, it could be Lachie Cowan.
Nick Haynes looked like he popped his shoulder but, after seeming to be in strife, he played out the game without any problems. Hopefully he'll be fine after playing his best game for us.
bring in the quicks crows move the ball quick so PRESSURE /TACKLE on sen bucks said freo didn't give adl any room to move we have to do same
The suggestion on Twitter is that Cerra will get a week for the incident with Bowes.
Cerra got a week
https://x.com/DavidZita1/status/1916756665334108257
When did that happen?
Far out, where is Dangers hit on Saad on the list? How dare we knock off the Cats... They are the most protected species in the AFL Geelong. You beat them on field, and they make sure you get rogered off it.
Dangerfield has more accidents than a Mumbai bus driver and its remarkable for such a skilled player how unco he can apparently get on a football field and have so many collisions where he escapes unscathed yet his victims are rendered injured or concussed.
His attack on Sam Walsh last season where he drove his head into the ground was brutal, dangerous and he argued successfully it was the safe way to do it???? Curtis from Nth did the same thing this round and copped three weeks......
We're going to have a few missing, ::)
Young should be in.
Doc should be back
I'd be tempted to give Ben Camporeale a run (he's spent a bit of time over there)
Lord should start.
Maybe Cowan back
....and perhaps Boyd's done his penance.
Just feels will be a lesser side without Jack and possibly Cerra
No word on whether the club will appeal Cerra's ban ?
Have been saying it for years. Michael Ffen Christian is the most incompetent/corrupt AFL official of all time.
Only have to look at the Curtis ban. Utter carp
Cerra being suspended is BS.
However, it may be a blessing in disguise.
He grabbed his groin multiple times towards the end of the match. Once on the field, once on the bench and once after the game. Each time with an 'ouch' face as he was attempting to stretch it out.
Ridiculous suspension - but the MRP is a lotto anyway.
Perfectly fine resting Cerra.
I'll bring back Doc he looked good 2nd half at VFL and Lord needs to play a full game.
Give Ben a taste for a quarter and a bit so he knows where improvement needs to come from. Sid Draper has been below par and I reckon Ben will take him to the cleaners head to head.
H received a free for a bloke jumping on his back and riding him into the ground - we kicked a critical goal from it. Personally I thought it was HTB, but technically shouldn't the Cats player get a holiday if Curtis did?
Another rule the AFL has totally ****** up.
David Zita reporting on X the club is appealing. Must be changed to a fine at worst, joke of a suspension.
Half the fend offs in the AFL would be suspensions based on that footage.
No way, jumped square into his number, free kick every day of the week. Problem is, it happens a lot but they dont pay them anywhere near often enough.
That’s the problem; letting blatant pushes in back go encourages players to tackle incorrectly and that leads to the Curtis tackle and suspension.
The bigger problem is letting coaches have a say in the development of rules, they always drive the debate to suit a loophole or a player that will give them a tactical advantage.
The Scotts are the classic example, the twins always worked at the edge of what was legal, that's how those two fat hobbits managed to curtail some of the AFL's best KPPs!
Cerra, Silvagni and Williams are likely outs with Docherty and Young likely to come in along with Cowan.
Cerra's penalty downgraded to a fine. Free to play the Crows.
He'd be happy with that, but seriously I'd challenge the fine on principle.
Blokes should not be able to launch themselves at you then claim foul play if they stumble into your block. We saw a stupid suspension in NRL last season, NAS at the Storm got three weeks for basically being 7ft tall. An opponent in the last round basically charged flat out and headbutted NAS in the shoulder.
If this sort of suspension / fine is allowed to persist opposition clubs will use it as a tactic to remove key opponents from the finals. If they are up against a potential future opponent in the last round they can put a spud in to basically be the sacrificial lamb.
Sanity has prevailed. Restores some of my confidence in the people in charge and the Tribunal. The MRO is a mess though.
Great, now we will play him when he appears to be carrying a niggle, he hurts himself and is out for 4 weeks longer. :-[
Yep
He was struggling late in the game.
A week off may have been the best thing for him.
I reckon he might not even play.
But I guess the appeal was more about going in to bat for the player.
As far as I could tell, he didn't receive any treatment other than drinking the old pickle juice. I therefore assume it may have been cramp.
It may have been. We'll have to wait and see.
They didn't try to hide him in that last quarter as you would do with an injured player, just to help with rotations. When we came back on, he was right back into the heat. Also, his body language coming off and on the bench wasn't that of a player who just realised he was going to be out for multiple weeks.
is there a chance he grabbed it, to try to have an excuse for the worst snap at goal in recent history??
in : Cowan, Doc
out: JSos, Zac
Maybe.
I would assume it wont be Young who comes in
Weiters - Thilthorpe
Gov - Fogarty
Haynes - Walker
Saad - Keays
Carroll - Rachele
I think Young might play....don't trust Haynes either on any of those physical type forwards.Walker would get my best defender. Saad on Keays from memory hasn't worked out too well either...prefer Saad on Rankine
I'd be hoping our mids dominate and supply is minimal to the Crows forward line.
Adelaide really only has Thilthorpe as a tall forward but Walker and Fogarty will have at least 10kg on most of our taller defenders if we don’t play Young.
Jack Silvagni has been outstanding with his ability to play on tall and medium forwards and to set up our transition from defence. Young isn’t a like for like replacement but neither are Doc and Moo, and we’d be quite undersized with either of them replacing Jack in our defensive seven.
I think I’d like to see Young on Thilthorpe, Weitering freed up to control our transition and Cowan to come in for Carroll. Not that Jeff has been poor but Moo can play taller and is a bit harder.
Rankine plays more midfield and Saad wont play there. Keays dines out on us, pencil him in for 4 goals now irrespective of who plays on him. Thilthorpe is there best and biggest fwd hence Weiters. They were saying on Fox Gov seems to do better agains the taller quicker more mobile fwds, dont know whether you'd call Fogarty to Walker quick and mobile.
I 100% trust Haynes (now) to do a defensive job on either. Young is too flaky to play on Thilthorpe IMO.
Agree totally EB. Pressure on delivery to Crows forwards is the key.
If they get clean ball, it will make it hard.
We must bring the heat like last week around the ball, otherwise we'll struggle to beat them.
Always a challenge against this mob. They're our Achilles heel.
IF we can bring the heat and cohesion of last week AND win around the contest to dominate i50 AND lock it i50. We win.
Go Blues
Not sold on Haynes as a defender or his kicking, prefer Weitering on Walker.
Thilthorpe has a hand injury which might negate his marking and help a player like Young who has the height to match him.
Fogarty will be an interesting watch given his shoulder will be sore still and I'd be testing it out.
Going to miss Jack and the Crows are a more difficult matchup for us than most teams and I think this game will be tougher than the Cats and a win will be a convincing sign we are a serious finals contender.
First marking contest, the spoiler should be aiming directly for that finger.....
Well that's exactly what SOS would do.
it was interesting one of the talking heads (i think buckley) said he thought Gov struggled early in the year as they were playing him on smalls (as an attempt to free him up to be a 3rd man up). now that he is playing on talls/mediums he is playing much better
And playing on quicker medium/talls.
CARLTON
In: L.Young, L.Cowan, S.Docherty
Out: J.Silvagni (hand), Z.Williams (calf), M.Cottrell (ankle)
Don’t mind the ins but at least one of our defenders will have to play a different role. Perhaps Carroll will be the sub 🤔
I don’t really want see Ollie Hollands back on the wing. I’m sure that he’d do well but he has become an important part of our defensive group.
Yeah, don't mind the ins, don't think we had much choice. Doc's experience will be important this week, hope he has a big game.
Crossing my fingers with Youngy !
Still a solid side. Many who didn't think SOS wasn't in our best 22 and Doc was late last year early this year (ie PS) would have taken that side as selected this week. Same could be said for Cottrell (many didn't rate him as best 22).
Our line-up:
B: [32] Matthew Carroll [23] Jacob Weitering [11] Mitch McGovern
HB: [13] Blake Acres [26] Nick Haynes [42] Adam Saad
C: [20] Elijah Hollands [9] Patrick Cripps [4] Oliver Hollands
HF: [18] Sam Walsh [10] Harry McKay [3] Jesse Motlop
F: [8] Lachie Fogarty [30] Charlie Curnow [33] Lewis Young
R: [12] Tom De Koning [5] Adam Cerra [29] George Hewett
Int: [19] Corey Durdin [38] Will White [36] Cooper Lord [15] Sam Docherty [2] Lachlan Cowan
Em: [44] Francis Evans [25] Jaxon Binns [27] Marc Pittonet
I wonder what Frankie Evans knows that keeps him in the picture? I can't see any other reason that he's that close to a game.
Binns: I guess he deserves a try.
Pitto: Yeah, he has to be close.
I think with Evans its a case of a senior body ready and some I need who doesn't need time in the vfl to develop. I'm hes reached his ceiling and its not good enough.
Makes a good travelling emergency for that reason.
Binns.... im not sure he makes it past 2025.
Pitto....he's not in the team simply because we don't want him there now.
It's no longer form or fitness keeping him out as he dominated last week. We just don't need 2 rucks in the senior side. Simples.
I reckon it's probably just that he plays a role that gives us flexibility.
Is our emergency a small forward? A wingman? A ruck? What are we going to do if we lose jesse motlop, fogarty or durdin? Bring in a ruck or one of the campos?
I think Evans had a high tackle count in the last game and maybe is seen as someone who can play a run with role as he seemed to spend a lot of time up the ground rather than down forward.
Evans led our tackle count in the VFL last week with 8
He also led our inside 50 stats with 7
He had the ball 16 times.
I'm guessing he played a role that was assigned and probably performed that well enough.
Although he didn't have a great impact that's probably a 'fair' performance.