Princes Park => Robert Heatley Stand => Topic started by: crashlander on May 03, 2025, 10:01:28 am
Title: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda
Post by: crashlander on May 03, 2025, 10:01:28 am
Friday 9th May at 19:40 at the MCG against the 'Aints. At least it isn't a Thursday night: I can't realistically get to them.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda
Post by: crashlander on May 04, 2025, 10:10:02 am
Well, St Kilda won by 10 goals and we lost by 10 goals, so it is going to be interesting viewing on Friday night. I don't think we've won a night game this year as yet.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda
Post by: crashlander on May 06, 2025, 08:40:54 pm
Silvagni is a chance to return, Cottrell has ankle issues and will miss about a month. So, who do we bring in? Pitto was good last week, and Tom doesn't tend to do well against bulls like Marshall. Silvagni coming into defence is a certainty if he is fit enough. Not sure he will be, just a week after hand surgery, but that is another tale. Who replaces Cottrell? Boyd played decently last week. Binns?
Doc has 12 possessions last week and looked well off the pace. Do we replace him? If so, with whom? I would be bringing in Frank the Tank: he might have had a few tackles last week, but he couldn't hit the side of a barn, from inside.
It will be very interesting to see how we line up this week.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 06, 2025, 08:45:19 pm
Silvagni is a chance to return, Cottrell has ankle issues and will miss about a month. So, who do we bring in? Pitto was good last week, and Tom doesn't tend to do well against bulls like Marshall. Silvagni coming into defence is a certainty if he is fit enough. Not sure he will be, just a week after hand surgery, but that is another tale. Who replaces Cottrell? Boyd played decently last week. Binns?
Doc has 12 possessions last week and looked well off the pace. Do we replace him? If so, with whom? I would be bringing in Frank the Tank: he might have had a few tackles last week, but he couldn't hit the side of a barn, from inside.
It will be very interesting to see how we line up this week.
Might be as simple as as SOS for Young. Coll resting De Goey, Pendlebury, Mihocek and Maynard lol. Imagine what would happen to us if we rested Cripps, Hewett, Saad and Harry or Charlie. We'd get smashed by 120 points.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda
Post by: kruddler on May 06, 2025, 08:56:17 pm
Silvagni is a chance to return, Cottrell has ankle issues and will miss about a month. So, who do we bring in? Pitto was good last week, and Tom doesn't tend to do well against bulls like Marshall. Silvagni coming into defence is a certainty if he is fit enough. Not sure he will be, just a week after hand surgery, but that is another tale. Who replaces Cottrell? Boyd played decently last week. Binns?
Doc has 12 possessions last week and looked well off the pace. Do we replace him? If so, with whom? I would be bringing in Frank the Tank: he might have had a few tackles last week, but he couldn't hit the side of a barn, from inside.
It will be very interesting to see how we line up this week.
Silvagni has to play. A broken hand can be carried. Tape it into a club if he needs to.
I haven't seen how the 2's have gone recently, but Lucas Campo is who i'd use to replace Cottrell unless his form has been terrible.
Not sure why Boyd is on the naughty list, but i'd bring him in for Docherty or Cowan and use the other as sub.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda
Post by: northernblue on May 06, 2025, 09:29:56 pm
I’d keep Moo in the team, he’s got it, he just needs some continuity
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda
Post by: Lods on May 06, 2025, 11:14:17 pm
Silvagni is a chance to return, Cottrell has ankle issues and will miss about a month. So, who do we bring in? Pitto was good last week, and Tom doesn't tend to do well against bulls like Marshall. Silvagni coming into defence is a certainty if he is fit enough. Not sure he will be, just a week after hand surgery, but that is another tale. Who replaces Cottrell? Boyd played decently last week. Binns?
Doc has 12 possessions last week and looked well off the pace. Do we replace him? If so, with whom? I would be bringing in Frank the Tank: he might have had a few tackles last week, but he couldn't hit the side of a barn, from inside.
It will be very interesting to see how we line up this week.
Silvagni has to play. A broken hand can be carried. Tape it into a club if he needs to.
I haven't seen how the 2's have gone recently, but Lucas Campo is who i'd use to replace Cottrell unless his form has been terrible.
Not sure why Boyd is on the naughty list, but i'd bring him in for Docherty or Cowan and use the other as sub.
Lucas has been pretty average. His disposal hasn't been great. Same with Ben. They're works in progress. I reckon we should give Binns another crack. I wouldn't be surprised if Evans got a run. He was OK in the VFL.
Boyd seems to be out of favour, so he must be doing something wrong in an area that he's been asked to work on. Will they go with two rucks? Pittonet is match ready. O'Keefe is putting himself forward for selection and can kick a goal.
Hopefully Silvagni is good to go.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda
Post by: DJC on May 07, 2025, 02:43:04 am
Lucas has been pretty average. His disposal hasn't been great. Same with Ben. They're works in progress. I reckon we should give Binns another crack. I wouldn't be surprised if Evans got a run. He was OK in the VFL.
Boyd seems to be out of favour, so he must be doing something wrong in an area that he's been asked to work on. Will they go with two rucks? Pittonet is match ready. O'Keefe is putting himself forward for selection and can kick a goal.
Hopefully Silvagni is good to go.
Boyd's disposal by foot has been as bad as some of the worst kicks by Doc and McGovern ::)
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 07, 2025, 06:58:56 am
Lucas has been pretty average. His disposal hasn't been great. Same with Ben. They're works in progress. I reckon we should give Binns another crack. I wouldn't be surprised if Evans got a run. He was OK in the VFL.
Boyd seems to be out of favour, so he must be doing something wrong in an area that he's been asked to work on. Will they go with two rucks? Pittonet is match ready. O'Keefe is putting himself forward for selection and can kick a goal.
Hopefully Silvagni is good to go.
Boyd's disposal by foot has been as bad as some of the worst kicks by Doc and McGovern ::)
Ill be honest, I have never seen this elite kicking from Boyd that everyone bangs on about. I have never rated him and never will, VFL player at best (like so many on our list).
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda
Post by: LP on May 07, 2025, 07:07:36 am
Ill be honest, I have never seen this elite kicking from Boyd that everyone bangs on about. I have never rated him and never will, VFL player at best (like so many on our list).
His long kicking is / was as good as any on our list, the problem seems to be making decisions when hitting short targets or too often taking the safe option.
Our game plan has changed drastically when we are playing well. I suspect this is the start of the Plan B we've been asking for and that we need desperately, and the longer kicking Plan A variant remains as needed.
It looks to me that quite a few like Boyd and Doc are struggling to adapt play on demand when we switch up tactics during the game, so you get long bombs and b0rked up short kicks that seem out of place relative to the rest of the squad. FWIW, I thought Saad seemed to be struggling earlier in the season with similar issues but has started to settle. You can't mistake the look of hesitancy and doubt they have, they must suppress that instinct they have to hot potato the footy 50m down field.
Charlie looks a little lost at the moment as well, he seems to be getting trapped in no-mans land a lot. When he is in Harry has looked more functional as a KPF and has straightened us up a bit, but isn't clunking them as well as he can at the moment.
I thought one of the things we lost with SoJ out was his footy smarts, he was getting to the right place at the right time and it makes a huge difference. Not surprising, given he grew up watching his old man so it probably makes sense he appears to fit right in even if he isn't comfortable yet, he still knows roughly where to be and when. It might not be what SoJ wants, but I think it's his most suitable role yet.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 07, 2025, 07:21:34 am
Boyd's disposal by foot has been as bad as some of the worst kicks by Doc and McGovern ::)
Ill be honest, I have never seen this elite kicking from Boyd that everyone bangs on about. I have never rated him and never will, VFL player at best (like so many on our list).
His kicking has gone backwards, turned it over vs Coburg and he is also giving away dumb frees by being over aggressive at the wrong time.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda
Post by: tonyo on May 07, 2025, 07:51:23 am
I reckon it's hard to judge how someone will go in the 1's based on VFL form - when you are playing in a VFL-level team with VFL-level teamwork and game plans, it might be that the better players try to bite off more than they can chew.
I certainly think we need more back-half dash, because EVERY SINGLE TIME we let the ball get out the back, the opposition get an easy goal. We have no cover whatsoever. Watching poor old Weiters trying to chase down a half-forward rabbit is becoming far too common.
On that score, I think Boyd needs to play.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs St, Kilda
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 07, 2025, 07:59:19 am
I reckon it's hard to judge how someone will go in the 1's based on VFL form - when you are playing in a VFL-level team with VFL-level teamwork and game plans, it might be that the better players try to bite off more than they can chew.
I certainly think we need more back-half dash, because EVERY SINGLE TIME we let the ball get out the back, the opposition get an easy goal. We have no cover whatsoever. Watching poor old Weiters trying to chase down a half-forward rabbit is becoming far too common.
On that score, I think Boyd needs to play.
I doubt that's about dash and more about defensive positioning. It was very poor on the weekend and very good the weeks before. I am hoping that we clean it up for the game this week, SOS is very important to the defensive structure.