Carlton Supporters Club

We play Port Melbourne on Saturday night at their crappy ground, under the lights. We're on TV and might have Pitto available.
I hope we have Will Hayes available, as he provides so much experience and drive.
I think Flynn Riley will play: no Young for a 2nd ruck. Lemmey will be the key forward, so I hope he does more than last week.

Quote from: crashlander – on June 25, 2025, 08:58:16 pm

We play Port Melbourne on Saturday night at their crappy ground, under the lights. We're on TV and might have Pitto available.
I hope we have Will Hayes available, as he provides so much experience and drive.
I think Flynn Riley will play: no Young for a 2nd ruck. Lemmey will be the key forward, so I hope he does more than last week.

I hope Riley plays.
Was quite impressed with him earlier in the year but he's been kept out by Pitto and HOK

Being killed in the ruck. Riley not impressing so far.
Carlton: 3 taps
Port: 10
Not giving our mids much of a chance.

The Camporeale boys look like they are ready for AFL.  They are missing targets, dropping marks and missing set shots on goal.

The Camporeale boys look like they are ready for AFL.  They are missing targets, dropping marks and missing set shots on goal.

The Camporeale boys look like they are ready for AFL.  They are missing targets, dropping marks and missing set shots on goal.

Evans 14 disposals, 2 goals 2 behinds, 5 tackles, 4 inside 50s

Is O’Farrell playing?

Lemmey, Moir, B Campo & Cowan all appear to be better AFL prospects than all of Docherty, Fantasia, L Young, B Wilson, F Young,…..hopefully a lot of changes

Quote from: percy – on June 28, 2025, 08:40:12 pm

Is O’Farrell playing?

No
Did he go to SA as an emergency?

Lemmey with three goals, looks the part, Id be giving him a game....

We win 94-83

Ben Camporeale - 22 touches, 10 tackles, 7 inside 50's, 5 score involvements, 4 clearances and 1.1 - That deserves a callup.
Moir - 17 touches, 3 tackles, 4 score involvements, 4 clearances and 4.1 - Give him a go this week too
Lemmey - 3 goals from not much, get him in and rest Charlie....can't do any worse.


Pittonet - 41 hitouts, 17 touches, 4 clearances, 4 tackles, 5 score involvements - Good enough to get a game at just about every other club at the moment.

I wouldn't have been promoting Ben Camporeale on his 1st quarter and a bit; he looked off the pace and not as desperate as the Port guys were. He ended up with 22 possessions, 4 clearances and 10 tackles, so he must have upped his game considerably.

Lucas Camporeale was awful early, playing like the seniors, dropping marks and miskicking the ball, unable to score. His 15 disposals was disappointing, as he has a good pair of hands and a good leap when he is confident.

Pitto: he was leaving much of the ruckwork to Riley early, and Riley was getting flogged, but for a nice clearance in the second quarter that ended up in a goal. The most unimpressive game I've seen from the youngster to that point. He ended up with 10 possessions and 9 taps.
Pitto was ordinary early; he gave up the chase, which almost led to a Port goal. He had 1 tap in the first quarter and a bit, but ended up with 41 taps, 17 possessions, 4 clearances and 4 tackles. He really pulled the finger out!

Frankie Evans might get promoted on that effort: 24 possessions, 8 tackles, 7 marks, 3 goals 2. I don't know that he is good enough, to be honest, but our small forwards have been so ordinary it wouldn't be like he would be worse. If he does this for the seniors, he'll get more games.

Will White has really gone off the boil. 16 possessions, 1 goal 2, 3 tackles is an improvement, but he was doing much better than that last year.

Charleson was interesting.

Is O’Farrell playing?

Easily Moir's best game. Plenty of touches, 17 of them and 4 goals. Encouraging.

Ben Campo's last half was terrific after a slow start.

Quote from: laj – on June 28, 2025, 10:53:05 pm

Easily Moir's best game. Plenty of touches, 17 of them and 4 goals. Encouraging.

Ben Campo's last half was terrific after a slow start.

I think we've all seen it with Moir.
It's one of those things were a player just looks a class above when he moves and with some of the things he does.
For those players with this X factor, sometimes the difficult looks effortless and just comes naturally.
The problem in the past has been that he's had trouble finding the ball.
That's improving.
It may not be time yet, but since he's been playing a bit on the ball he's looking like he could be the goods.
 

We got to see more of Moir's footy IQ. Much better game. Put his hand up.

Frankie E was dangerous and also put his hand up, which probably means we'll promote Durdin.

Liked Charleson's game, coming along nicely. Not yet.

For mine, Lemmey still doesn't have enough 'authority' in his game... close, though. Nothing to lose giving him serious consideration - give him a taste. We already know what we're getting with Young (the obvious spot to be filled by Lemmey).

I had people over so was watching it casually in the background rather than with full intent.


Cowan straight back in for mine. Sooner the better.  He's too good for vfl level, and he's a tough competitor.  He'll get beaten a bit at afl level, but he's the type that will put his head where others won't.

Moir i reckon did enough to come in.   Very creative and way more involved with the odd stint on ball.  He can potentially do the Elijah role and probably possesses more of his skillet than others.

M. Carroll was ok.  Im not sure what it is about him i dont like but im not enamoured by him.   I think its because he's not overly physical.

Charleson was interesting.

Its hard to drop anyone on Thursdays effort.  We were so bad you could replace anyone who put their hand up and imho  a few did.



Lemmey is a straight kick, and a strong mark.  He's not a dominant player he's just a key forward.  Is he a good key forward at afl level?  He's not very mobile.  Will compliment Charlie.  I would rather him forward than young but he's a bit of a one trick pony.

Anyone know where EH is at? I think his class is sorely missed in the team?

Quote from: Baggers – on June 29, 2025, 09:18:37 am

We got to see more of Moir's footy IQ. Much better game. Put his hand up.

Frankie E was dangerous and also put his hand up, which probably means we'll promote Durdin.

Liked Charleson's game, coming along nicely. Not yet.

For mine, Lemmey still doesn't have enough 'authority' in his game... close, though. Nothing to lose giving him serious consideration - give him a taste. We already know what we're getting with Young (the obvious spot to be filled by Lemmey).

Evans is not fast enough, big enough or good enough for AFL - He is well suited to the VFL where he can tackle players who are standing still or who are slower than he is and not expecting to be run down.

Also like Charleson's poise and skills - might be a good player next year.

Also liked Moir's ability to take a contested mark (or two) - unlike Lemmey, a one-trick player with limited mobility who needs to be given the ball by way of an uncontested mark or a free kick.  At least he can kick the ball effectively but I doubt we have the senior players who can kick it to his advantage.

I Finally saw something useful from Monahan - seemed to have some poise and an idea of what was required of him - handball skills also seemed quite good - might still make a player if he is persevered with

Quote from: blueboys_1 – on June 29, 2025, 02:22:50 pm

Anyone know where EH is at? I think his class is sorely missed in the team?

No official word, but rumour has it he's out for the year.
Other rumours suggest he might not be wanted back next year.

Quote from: kruddler – on June 29, 2025, 03:04:05 pm

No official word, but rumour has it he's out for the year.
Other rumours suggest he might not be wanted back next year.

Indeed, very difficult to know where Elijah Hollands is at. There have been rumours, some ugly, but no real data to grab hold of. There also seem to be those who think he won't be back.

He is an exceptional talent and great to watch when he is in the groove.  Hopefully he can overcome his demons have a great life. Would  still love him back with us when ready. Fingers crossed for the young man.

Quote from: crashlander – on June 29, 2025, 03:07:15 pm

Indeed, very difficult to know where Elijah Hollands is at. There have been rumours, some ugly, but no real data to grab hold of. There also seem to be those who think he won't be back.

He is an exceptional talent and great to watch when he is in the groove.  Hopefully he can overcome his demons have a great life. Would  still love him back with us when ready. Fingers crossed for the young man.

I might try and watch the replay tonight.

What role does Evans play at VFL level?  

We clearly have some talent at the young end of the list, why isn't this transferring to senior level?  It can't just be the old chestnut of the VFL being so much lower level than the big stage?

That said this is the best looking group of juniors we've had for a while, at least they're competitive this year.

Quote from: Professer E – on June 29, 2025, 06:39:28 pm

That said this is the best looking group of juniors we've had for a while, at least they're competitive this year.

If that is true, it suggests that the gap between the AFL and VFL has widened considerably since David Teague coached the Northern Blues to a couple of VFL finals series.

Quote from: Professer E – on June 29, 2025, 06:39:28 pm

That said this is the best looking group of juniors we've had for a while, at least they're competitive this year.

If that is true, it suggests that the gap between the AFL and VFL has widened considerably since David Teague coached the Northern Blues to a couple of VFL finals series.

James Hird wants our kids in and the senior team playing the same game style as our VFL team, was impressed with kids like  Moir , Charleson, Carroll etc.
Tend to agree, need to drop senior players who are not taking us anywhere and go with the kids for the next 8 weeks...
Glad Luke Power seems to value the modern more expansive style than the 1960s game the seniors play.

Glad Luke Power seems to value the modern more expansive style than the 1960s game the seniors play.

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on June 29, 2025, 09:53:17 pm

Glad Luke Power seems to value the modern more expansive style than the 1960s game the seniors play.

I think our VFL game tactics Saturday night were closer to the AFL teams tactics than they have been all season, which against Hird's group make the game a shoot out.

The difference Saturday night was basically that we had Cowan and Carroll who both played 4-qtrs and mopped up in defence to kick things off on the attack with plenty of rebound.

There will be a lot of fans boosting Evans, Durdin and Moir, but they all really only played 1/2 a game, they can't do that at the next level and get away with it like they did Saturday night.

Having effective half backs makes a difference

The solution to last Thursday was Saturday night. Keep running forward, keep moving forward,  don't go in your shell when you make mistakes, trust your team mates will keep having a go, and try and kick and handball the ball to your team mates, and finally,  don't give up.

Quote from: Blue Moon – on June 30, 2025, 09:50:09 am

The solution to last Thursday was Saturday night. Keep running forward, keep moving forward,  don't go in your shell when you make mistakes, trust your team mates will keep having a go, and try and kick and handball the ball to your team mates, and finally,  don't give up.

Send them a note.

Do you genuinely think the AFL team aren't trying to do this?

I don't know.

I saw blokes who clearly aren't up to it.

Quote from: Blue Moon – on June 30, 2025, 09:55:00 am

I don't know.

The club does.

Do you really think our MC put blokes out there who aren't trying, the MC's job depends on them.