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Title: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: crashlander on July 19, 2025, 02:17:09 pm
Another Thursday night game, so I won't be there.  >:D  >:D  >:D  I don't appreciate mid-week games at all. The less of them we have, the better.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: madbluboy on July 19, 2025, 10:16:08 pm
FreekickHawthorn v Freekick Carlton
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on July 20, 2025, 08:19:09 am
We are zero chance.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: tonyo on July 20, 2025, 10:19:25 am
Hawks have too much to play for
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Lods on July 20, 2025, 10:50:21 am
It's sometimes funny what a win will do.
You get a kick out of them and it's a feeling you want to repeat.
On form this year Hawthorn will be clear favourites, and as tonyo says "They have more to play for"
But football is full of upsets and you never know.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: RiverRat on July 20, 2025, 10:57:52 am
Another Thursday night game, so I won't be there.  >:D  >:D  >:D  I don't appreciate mid-week games at all. The less of them we have, the better.
I agree although, after this season, it seems reasonable to assume that we won't be scheduled for so many prime-time games next year.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: madbluboy on July 20, 2025, 01:29:40 pm
I wrote in the last survey that if next season has the same amount of Thursday games I will give up my membership as there is no point.
They tried to call me and left a voice message because I didn't answer as it came up as spam.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on July 20, 2025, 02:08:39 pm
I wrote in the last survey that if next season has the same amount of Thursday games I will give up my membership as there is no point.
They tried to call me and left a voice message because I didn't answer as it came up as spam.
Fixturing is largely an AFL though isn't it? We request stuff but they ultimately decide. As RR said, after this year we will be banished from prime time.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Thryleon on July 20, 2025, 02:22:29 pm
Don't expect Thursday night footy to go anywhere.

There are enough public holidays on a Friday for it to be a thing.

When the competition expands again they'll need the timeslot.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on July 20, 2025, 03:26:05 pm
Don't expect Thursday night footy to go anywhere.

There are enough public holidays on a Friday for it to be a thing.

When the competition expands again they'll need the timeslot.

As best as i can tell, there is only one on a friday - Good Friday.

You might get ANZAC days once every 7 years. Anything else?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Lods on July 20, 2025, 03:50:32 pm
Did Lemmey play the last quarter and a bit in the VFL

I didn't start watching until then and don't recall seeing him at all.

If he didn't, he's probably going to play Thursday. ;)
(assuming no injury)
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Thryleon on July 20, 2025, 03:53:40 pm
Did Lemmey play the last quarter and a bit in the VFL

I didn't start watching until then and don't recall seeing him at all.

If he didn't, he's probably going to play Thursday. ;)
didnt come on after half time from what i saw.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Professer E on July 20, 2025, 04:55:47 pm
The likes of Gunston, Ginnivan and the Wiz will rip us a new one.  Maybe Saad could stay within 5 metres of his man this week, that might help.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: madbluboy on July 20, 2025, 04:59:03 pm
Don't expect Thursday night footy to go anywhere.

There are enough public holidays on a Friday for it to be a thing.

When the competition expands again they'll need the timeslot.

I like watching on TV, I just can't attend. Now I'm not going to pay over $1500 a year for my family to be members if I can't attend most of the games.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Professer E on July 20, 2025, 05:01:19 pm
Downgrade your membership but stay a member so the clock keeps ticking.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on July 20, 2025, 05:32:48 pm
Don't expect Thursday night footy to go anywhere.

There are enough public holidays on a Friday for it to be a thing.

When the competition expands again they'll need the timeslot.

I like watching on TV, I just can't attend. Now I'm not going to pay over $1500 a year for my family to be members if I can't attend most of the games.

Next survey the club does about membership and value for money etc, i am going to suggest some different packages to account for exactly this.
We have 'home' and we have 'home and away' memberships.
Surely we can have weekend memberships as well. I too, can not attend Thursday matches, nor can my kids who are also members. So its a complete waste.
Either they find a way to sort it out or they risk a lot of people downgrading their memberships.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: RiverRat on July 20, 2025, 05:36:43 pm
I wrote in the last survey that if next season has the same amount of Thursday games I will give up my membership as there is no point.

I made that decision this year.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on July 20, 2025, 08:10:10 pm
Downgrade your membership but stay a member so the clock keeps ticking.
Thinking of doing that, pity Ill lose my seats at the G and Marvel which are unreal but I am not shelling out that king of money x3 (if anything) any more.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: pinot on July 20, 2025, 09:16:57 pm
Tuesday's injury list will be interesting

Harry should be good to play.
Gives Moir a chance to play shorter.

Evans unlucky with concussion was having a very good game.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: pertz on July 21, 2025, 08:05:16 pm
Don't expect Thursday night footy to go anywhere.

There are enough public holidays on a Friday for it to be a thing.

When the competition expands again they'll need the timeslot.
It's here to stay.
It's all about the TV $$$$$$
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: PaulP on July 22, 2025, 11:23:17 am
This will be Weitering's 200th game. Super career. Well played JW.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: crashlander on July 22, 2025, 12:52:23 pm
This will be Weitering's 200th game. Super career. Well played JW.
And also now Doc's last game. If that doesn't give our guys something to stand up for, I don't know what will.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: PaulP on July 22, 2025, 01:59:14 pm
And also now Doc's last game. If that doesn't give our guys something to stand up for, I don't know what will.

Yes I think expecting a win is a bridge too far. Hawks are in good shape, and have much to play for. A solid 4 quarter effort, where the boys give a good account of themselves, and make the Hawks earn every kick, handball, goal etc is about the best we can expect IMO.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: RiverRat on July 22, 2025, 03:39:21 pm
This will be Weitering's 200th game. Super career. Well played JW.
And also now Doc's last game. If that doesn't give our guys something to stand up for, I don't know what will.
Doc's last two games have been his best for the season (Low bar) despite the inevitable turnovers so here's hoping.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: LP on July 22, 2025, 07:54:09 pm
And also now Doc's last game. If that doesn't give our guys something to stand up for, I don't know what will.
Hard to tell what a week like this does, can be inspiring, but it can also be draining.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Thryleon on July 23, 2025, 09:10:55 am
Fair to say that we wont see a debutant this week?  usually we know by now, and all the media around the club around Docherty departing and Weiters 200th points to it not being the case.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: madbluboy on July 23, 2025, 10:17:40 am
We will lose the next 2 then win the last 3.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Professer E on July 23, 2025, 10:32:20 am
If take that but we haven't won a round 24 game for years.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: madbluboy on July 23, 2025, 10:49:23 am
If take that but we haven't won a round 24 game for years.

It's Essendon
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on July 23, 2025, 12:40:39 pm
We will lose the next 2 then win the last 3.
We are going to will every game and make the 8
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: pew2 on July 23, 2025, 03:24:16 pm
bring pressure especially from our fwds after we go the long bomb we need to tackle tackle we cant let hawks run the ball out with ease and connect    ( coll laid 25 tackles in fwd zone ) thats the target  
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on July 23, 2025, 04:26:20 pm
Mathematically the season is still alive for us, we need to win every game and some whacky results need to go our way. There is a slight pulse and nothing would please me more that send Doc out the right way and honour the Big Horse on his 200th against this bunch of smug prats.
Go Blues.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Thryleon on July 23, 2025, 05:23:26 pm
Mathematically the season is still alive for us, we need to win every game and some whacky results need to go our way. There is a slight pulse and nothing would please me more that send Doc out the right way and honour the Big Horse on his 200th against this bunch of smug prats.
Go Blues.
Is it?

I thought I had the ladder predictor giving us no chance due to the head to head results we were relying on?

I.e.  Collingwood losing to Freo makes it even harder.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on July 23, 2025, 05:43:28 pm
Hawthorn will smack us, way more to play for and our club/culture is at an alltime low, I dont hold any value in the Melbourne win who are in a equally dismal phase of their football history with the same problems but in a more advanced state of dishevelment on and off the field.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: cookie2 on July 23, 2025, 06:03:48 pm
Hawthorn will smack us, way more to play for and our club/culture is at an alltime low, I dont hold any value in the Melbourne win who are in a equally dismal phase of their football history with the same problems but in a more advanced state of dishevelment on and off the field.
You’re probably right EB but I expect a big effort from us in light of the occasion.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on July 23, 2025, 06:12:56 pm
Hawthorn will smack us, way more to play for and our club/culture is at an alltime low, I dont hold any value in the Melbourne win who are in a equally dismal phase of their football history with the same problems but in a more advanced state of dishevelment on and off the field.
You’re probably right EB but I expect a big effort from us in light of the occasion.

Cookie, Im hoping we send Doc off in the right manner but given the events happening at the club Im not confident.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Professer E on July 23, 2025, 06:44:19 pm
Love to know what Acres did to get recalled - wash the MCs cars or something?
Perfect game to play another small defender like Boyd or Wilson.

It'll be a smacking.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: frostydog on July 23, 2025, 06:47:16 pm
In
Blake Acres, Harry McKay
Out
Francis Evans (Injured), Flynn Young (Injured)
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: cookie2 on July 23, 2025, 06:59:43 pm
In
Blake Acres, Harry McKay
Out
Francis Evans (Injured), Flynn Young (Injured)
Theoretically two strong ins, but…….?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Gointocarlton on July 23, 2025, 07:23:36 pm
Mathematically the season is still alive for us, we need to win every game and some whacky results need to go our way. There is a slight pulse and nothing would please me more that send Doc out the right way and honour the Big Horse on his 200th against this bunch of smug prats.
Go Blues.
Is it?

I thought I had the ladder predictor giving us no chance due to the head to head results we were relying on?

I.e.  Collingwood losing to Freo makes it even harder.
I mucked around the other night, had us winning every game by 20 pts, had a few around us losing.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Lods on July 23, 2025, 07:43:39 pm
Mathematically the season is still alive for us, we need to win every game and some whacky results need to go our way. There is a slight pulse and nothing would please me more that send Doc out the right way and honour the Big Horse on his 200th against this bunch of smug prats.
Go Blues.

Sportsbet don't think so.
They've taken us off the board. :(
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: pertz on July 23, 2025, 07:44:09 pm
Love to know what Acres did to get recalled - wash the MCs cars or something?
Perfect game to play another small defender like Boyd or Wilson.

It'll be a smacking.

Maybe they brought back Acres to be part of Doc's final game?
Anythings possible with our MC.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: crashlander on July 23, 2025, 09:07:03 pm
Our line-up:

B:   2 Lachlan Cowan   23 Jacob Weitering  26 Nick Haynes
HB:   15 Sam Docherty   22 Harry O'Farrell   4 Oliver Hollands
C:   13 Blake Acres   9 Patrick Cripps   32 Matthew Carroll
HF:   8 Lachie Fogarty   30 Charlie Curnow   19 Corey Durdin
F:   38 Will White   10 Harry McKay   43 Ashton Moir
R:   12 Tom De Koning   29 George Hewett  5 Adam Cerra
Int:   42 Adam Saad   6 Zac Williams   36 Cooper Lord   27 Marc Pittonet  3 Jesse Motlop

Em:   25 Jaxon Binns   37 Jordan Boyd   40 Hudson O'Keeffe

[1] I'm a little bemused that Acres is back. Hopefully, he's bee freshened up and is ready for a big one. I can't think of anything else. I'd still be getting him operated on now, but ...
[2] Fog ... I am surprised that he hasn't been dropped. He hasn't done much for quite a while. For that matter, Will White has been down lately and is lucky to be getting a game.
I don't know what else to say, to be honest. I've struggled to understand our MC for quite a while. I guess, with our injuries, there were always going to be questions whose answers I wouldn't be privy to.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: pew2 on July 24, 2025, 03:44:07 pm
acres straight in ,just as BAD E Hollands got recalled after 2 Q inn Ressie F>>>>> joke meanwhile bobby Hill playing 5 wks reserves  can you see difference
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Professer E on July 24, 2025, 05:37:13 pm
The Acres selection is a joke.  Makes a mockery of "selection integrity"
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: townsendcalling on July 24, 2025, 06:04:20 pm
Within the next 5 weeks there will be an 'outlier' of a results that no one saw coming....... Could it be tonight??
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on July 24, 2025, 06:55:34 pm
Within the next 5 weeks there will be an 'outlier' of a results that no one saw coming....... Could it be tonight??

Hawthorn mate of mine is far from confident and thinks hawks are pretenders.

Not sure i share the same view, but i'm happy to be proven wrong.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Lods on July 24, 2025, 07:00:38 pm
Within the next 5 weeks there will be an 'outlier' of a results that no one saw coming....... Could it be tonight??

Hawthorn mate of mine is far from confident and thinks hawks are pretenders.

Not sure i share the same view, but i'm happy to be proven wrong.

I'm not sure they're as good as we thought they'd be following the end of last season.
I think some teams may have put a bit of effort into working them out, and developing counter strategies.
I doubt that's us.
If we win, or play well tonight, it will be emotion based.
We'll see what type of commitment is displayed by some.
That will be a bit of a tell.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Baggers on July 24, 2025, 07:18:45 pm
So... What do we think our winning margin will be? I'm in for about 16 pts.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on July 24, 2025, 07:27:53 pm
So... What do we think our winning margin will be? I'm in for about 16 pts.

-20 points
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: cookie2 on July 24, 2025, 07:31:28 pm
I’d be delirious with 1!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: Professer E on July 24, 2025, 07:33:19 pm
They need a big percentage boost and might think they can get it this week.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on July 24, 2025, 07:37:29 pm
They need a big percentage boost and might think they can get it this week.

I did a ladder predictor about 20 minutes ago.
We can still make finals (albeit very unlikely) and this is probably the biggest game for us that will determine if we do as we'll possibly be taking their spot.

% will be a factor.

1 in a million chance......but....
Title: Re: AFL Rd 20 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn
Post by: kruddler on July 24, 2025, 10:09:24 pm
So... What do we think our winning margin will be? I'm in for about 16 pts.

-20 points

Missed by 4 points