Sorry this one is a bit late.
We won't be starting favourites in this one, even though Adelaide have lost 3 games in a row and start like dead chickens.
I'm worried about the ruck, an area that Adelaide have dominated against us in recent times. Pitto alone against two rucks is not a recipe for success.
And our 2nd ruck last round was a real weakness, which cost us goals.
Adelaide's midfield have been ordinary so far, but can ours come to the party?
Adelaide will probably play their 3 tall forwards and we don't have the cattle to match them up. Weitering won't play, Dean is unlikely, Derksen had his issues in his debut and Lewis Young is what he is.
Reidy, who has been getting a lot of the ball lately, could have been in line for a return, but he was suspended in the VFL. :( O'Keefe is so far out of form that I don't want to think about it.
Flynn Young has to be brought in. He is the only guy who really deserves a promotion.
Hayworth's suspension we are challenging, but, to be honest, we wouldn't miss him if he missed.
Do we have someone to take out Rankin? He may not be in great form, but we usually play the opposition's best players into form by not picking them up.
I'm not looking forward to this one. I do not like Adelaide and they have had the wood over us even when they've been ordinary. I would really like to reverse this, but I just don't see it happening with our present side and playing style.
No need to be concerned. When we were good and they were rubbish, they would knock us for 6. Adelaide are a real bogey side for us, and if they dont win by 10 goals Ill be shocked.
Weitering’s absence may see Haynes back in the team to add some semblance of experience to the backline, Flynn Young sounds like he’ll be a certain inclusion as well. Nit looking forward to this game but we live in hope🤞
Adelaide copping it in the SA media on the rebound too makes it harder, a competitive 4 quarter effort might be the best we can hope for. That three prong tall forward line looks menacing for the Crows without Weitering, if our midfield are not firing its going to be difficult for Derksen, Haynes and L.Young.
I think one of Saad or Wilson will also play.
Is Haynes available, didn't he pull up sore in the VFL?
If Saad plays he cant go anywhere near Keays.....Wilson would be my preference to see what he has to offer in terms of progression from last season.
Jordan Boyd or cowan on keays please. The other one to take rachelle or ranking. If Saad plays i want him at half forward.
They crashed out of finals in straight sets after wining the minor premiership and have won 1 game like us. Their coach with that list should be under way more pressure than our bloke yet....
Where are the calls to sack Nicks?
Saad is cooked
There in the mail, will be his last season if they don't play at least prelims...same with Longmuir.
He gets cut some slack owing to getting them to the top of the ladder last year. Understandable. We, on the other hand, have had years of under-performing and we're seeing the same old, same old.
I reckon MacRae might wear some heat before the year is out as well, the filth aren't travelling well and their list is skinny.
Reckon the List management team might get pruned first. Maynard threw a grenade when he questioned the failing to re-contract Mihocek.
Ginnivan is another blunder haunting them as well which has been enhanced by the Bobby Hill scenario..
I had the craziest thought last night, why not play Crippa down back this week. He is 195cm, agressive, give him a shot at one of their big fellas, Tex maybe?
For me
Out Weitering (Conc) Hayward (suspended*) Evans O Hollands Ainsworth Florent
In Acres Haynes Wison B Camporeale L Camporeale F Young
FB Newman Young Boyd
HB Wilson Haynes Derksen
C Acres Cripps Carroll
HF E Hollands McKay Kemp
FF Byrne McGovern Young
Foll Pittonet Walsh Smith
Int B Camporeale L Camporeale Hewett Cerra Cowan
Blues 17 pts
Personally think this will be a very ugly game for us.
Anything less than 60pts will be a win to me.
Crippa couldn't pick up a cold, alas.
If we play 4 qtrs like we play one qtr we'd win easily. Sadly though.................
. Yes, good idea GTC. Have thought sometimes Crippa could be our (sometimes) centre half back, as you say playing on a big forward. Last year when the Crows carved us up over here at Adelaide oval, our backs were all at sea on Tex. Even Weitering struggled. He isn't the fastest mover but out manoeuvred them, particularly Young.
Would love Vossy to try a few such moves, instead of the same old.
Hayward will miss, the appeal failed.
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1991108/tribunal-news-hayward-learns-verdict
I agree with Cripps down back at times, especially if they are going to use Young in the ruck. He has never been effective resting up forward and it would give the opposition something to think about.
what a joke. They gave a down field free kick, which was effectively a 50 metre penalty and normally that's enough to hold out. Wardlaw wasn't even adversely impacted. I swear we get punished more than other teams.
Ok.......
Derksen Young Boyd
Florent Haynes Newman
Carroll Hewett Cerra
Ainsworth McKay E Holland
Evans Cripps F. Young
Pittonet Walsh Smith
Lord Cowan Byrne Kemp McGovern
Cripps is wearing a new knee strapping and probably playing injured, work him out of the square..... or rest him.
McGovern is the swingman, play him either end as required.
Lord rotates on the ball.
Byrne rotates with the small forwards.
Cowan rotates with the backs
Kemp rotates with the tall forwards.
Out: Hayward, Weitering, O Holland
In: Lord, F Young, Haynes.
Something different!
I don't think Lord will be over his illness by game time.
We will get smashed.
Come on Rock, where's the optimism?
That is optimistic mate. If I was being honest I'd say we will get obliterated! ;D
I do have to say I've always admired your unwavering confidence GTC. Keep the faith brother 🤞
Dunno about unwavering. My blind faith has been questioned on many occasions. At the end of the day, I just love my club mate and I want the boys to win not for me, for them as they put in all the hard work. As the old saying goes, "they are bastards, but they are our bastards".
On first glance that is one of the weakest back lines I can remember us fielding, with a misfiring midfield and flakey forward line this game could take a lot of 🍷to make it watchable. I am however eternally optimistic and hope the boys can show some fight for the coach and club.
We'll get screwed by the umpires this Thursday and suffer in silence.
Pretty much every major AFL media channel is banging on about the Crows being stitched up by umpiring errors. Tex is out there bleating to the fans, stoking the fires, the Crow fans will be extra vocal.
All this feeds back into the umpiring mindset, they read the papers, they see the broadcasts, they are only human. When we have those 50/50s, the anticipation and hesitation in decision making, these things won't go our way and this is the price of our silence.
Our fans are more likely to sit in the stands in dread, swallowing air, schtum, drowning in negativity, blaming players and coach for every ill of the world. But we are only and can only ever be about 1/3rd of the total influence over the outcome of a game, never more, and when we sit silent we are less.
Everything changes if we win this one!!!
Media are saying Crows will make light work of us.
They probably will because we rarely play well in Adelaide >:D
If Weitering was playing I'd give us a remote chance, but now I'd say no chance.
Too many holes to cover a more complete team which will be in ruthless kill mode in front of a rabid crowd and home umpiring. I hope it doesn't get really ugly but...
I thought Lord was out til round 6?
Adelaide by 56 points
Haynes, Williams and Flynn Young all took the flight to the City of Churches.
we need to start well and lay like 20 tackles in first Q , why for once cant we turn the tables and cause the big surprise are we that bad
Seems if the Campo boys were ever gonna play it was this week being in Adelaide and their form in the 2s being decent (as far as I could tell be reading the reviews).
Mitch Cleary reporting George Hewett dropped.
Elephant in room remains then.
Wouldn't surprise me, been ordinary and Cripps, Cerra, Hewett doesn't work IMO.
In Haynes OKeeke Wiliams
Out Weitering Hayward Hewett
Surely he's not dropped. Statistically he was one of our top 3 last week.
Named as an emergency so he isn't injured. I think someone will go out he might go in. Cripps could be injured. Who knows.
Flynn Young is very unlucky, been our best in the twos so I dont get why he wouldnt be an inclusion if you are rewarding VFL form?
If anyone in the midfield is lucky, it's probably Cerra, Cripps and Walsh were OK, both probably needed a message at times in recent weeks, but we've made a bit of a rod for our back.
I would have liked to see Flynn Young rewarded for his VFL form.
I'd also have liked one of Saad or Wilson in for a bit of speed.
But looking at the side I'm not sure who goes out.
O'Keefe is very lucky.
If Reidy hadn't been suspended it would have been him.
We're going with two Rucks.
It was critical last week when Pittonet had to go off in the last quarter for a rest and they won a few out of the middle.
Hopefully Adelaide have the mindset that no matter how far Carlton get ahead they can catch us.
Hopefully Carlton can trick them, and have the mindset that no matter how far Carlton get ahead...they won't catch us.
I reckon we're due ...overdue.
Carlton by 18. :D
GTC old chum. Hard to be optimistic when our selectors are as dumb as dog doodoo. Going to be showers and thunderstorms so we bring in an out-of-form ruckman. Flynn Young the only one to be consistently showing some form in the 2's? Nope.
Reigning B&F, 2nd only to Cripps in Contested Possessions this year on a wet night, yeah let's drop him.
We are fark3d
Bewildering MC selections, as per usual at Carlton.
So based on the comments we are not happy with team selection.
Young has been named as an emergency and if the weather is that bad maybe a late out???
Anyway i don't think it will matter, we not winning this game or any games soon and the insane thing is I will be glued to the TV and listening to my beloved saying why are you watching when you know they are going to lose.
Go Blues
Not sure what team line-up you're looking at. Young is at fullback. God that makes me shiver, saying that. 🥶
Thilthorpe will dine out on our undersized defence.
Wonder what Flynn Young has to do. Thought he was obvious to bring in for Haywood.
Our line-up:
B: 37 Jordan Boyd 33 Lewis Young 14 Oliver Florent
FB: 2 Lachlan Cowan 26 Nick Haynes 24 Nic Newman
C: 4 Oliver Hollands 9 Patrick Cripps 32 Matthew Carroll
HF: 44 Francis Evans 11 Mitch McGovern 12 Ben Ainsworth
F: 20 Elijah Hollands 10 Harry McKay 17 Brodie Kemp
R: 27 Marc Pittonet 7 Jagga Smith 18 Sam Walsh
Int: 47 Wade Derksen 5 Adam Cerra 6 Zac Williams 39 Talor Byrne 40 Hudson O'Keeffe
Em: 45 Flynn Young 29 George Hewett 13 Blake Acres
O have no idea why Flynn Young isn't getting a game.
perhaps late changes will be made, ducks and drakes? Let's just chillax and see how this plays out.
Im still confident, Adelaide are in as poor form as us.
We have 2 Youngs on the list.
Flynn Young is the in form small forward people are referring too.
Are we allergic to midfielders?
We lost lord....and didnt replace him.
We drop hewett....and dont replace him.
Both are negative....which we need.
Both are slow, i get it.
But surely we need to bring in other midfielders?
Also getting taller and slower with the other ins, which i cant think is a good thing.
Not really sure what the plan is or whether it will work.....but at least we appear to be trying 'something.'
Trust in Voss mate. :-X
We have a kid who is in great form in the 2nds and has some leg speed and goal sense that deserved a spot in a underperforming team but no the geniuses at PP recall a slow lumbering tall in HOK that has not exactly set the world on fire at either level
We are so slow across the ground and again do SFA to address it except of course dropping our reigning B & F winner.
We are a shambles on all levels
Crows by 10 plus.
Match committee is more than just voss.
If we somehow get a win out of it maybe he gets some credit?
Oh come on! Flynn for Hayward was a lock
We must have something against good ball users
Stay of execution maybe, as I said previously a 4 quarter effort would probably suffice to appease the masses.
Collingwood game could be the pivotal game given ladder position, form etc doesn't mean
anything and both teams usually put on a good show.
Wonder if Kemp is going to spend time back given the line up and Crows' height
Hudson OK is a ??? Selection. We look a runner short as well.
Horse on Hewett.
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We havent coached the ability to hit a target out of him yet so he gets a game until he masters the curnow-ver.
In all seriousness im happier not ruining his confidence by exposing him to our seniors.
Unless he's a late in, I would have preferred Young playing in the VFL and keeping the momentum going.
That's 10 goals? Isn't it?
I mean we are playing in Adelaide against the Cows
Wet night in Adelaide... so...
We replace a suspended quickish half forward with an out of form tall... leaving out a smart, in-form, half forward. How can anyone not see the logic in that ::)
We replace a concussed Weiters with an aging, struggling for form intercept backman.
We replace Hewett with Williams, I guess, which makes some sense.
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The AFL CEO has a little joke at our expense when asked to pick the winner of tonight's game.
"I think Carlton will be in front at half time...then we'll see what happens."
Hewett was dropped for his last quarter efforts on LDU I believe.
Harsh call, hopefully it doesn’t backfire resulting in a poor performance from the group, can’t see a good result coming from tonight.
I've said similar so no issues there.
However i must point out I've issue.
Who do you want to bring in to cover weitering? Cupboard is not only bare, its pencilled in as backup FB.
Dean is out.
Weitering is out
Ofarrell is out.
Young is in
Derkson is in.
Kenp is in
Mcgovern is in
Mckay is in
Okeefe is in
Only tall not playing is reidy the ruck.
So not sure what you are hoping for.
Kemp for Weitering
Flynn Y for Hayward
Williams for Hewett.
Isn't rain predicted? ::)
A draft pick! :o
I'd send both Kemp and McGovern back, and move Derksen forward to start the game.
Bit of backline experience in the absence of Weitering.
If it's not working we can always switch it up.
Rely on the smalls for most of the scoring...which if it's wet will probably be the case anyway.
Don't worry about Byrnes education tonight...he stays at the feet of the resting ruckmen whose instruction will be to bring it to ground.
There was some talk around that Pittonet had a splint on his hand at the airport.
It may not be him going out, but I just find it hard to believe that one of the emergencies won't play.
They've had some rain today and the forecast is for light occasional showers this evening. Perhaps an Adelaide based Blues supporter can give us an update?
I read on another site from people who are there saying it will be a heavy track but the rain should be gone by game time.
Blues by 14pts. Any other predictions?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSPNQ82Sq4E
Can only remember recent seasons and having expectations of winning only to get smashed against Crows in Adelaide.
I have zero expectation of a win tonight. Crows comfortably.
Play small forwards and tell the tall forwards just to not get outmarked
Gee I would like you to be right however I have a horrible feeling about tonight and reckon the dropping of Hewitt will blow up in our face.
Adelaide by plenty….
I think this will get ugly for us, and regrettably not just on field.
Coaching at Adelaide isn't brilliant and the conditions not perfect so maybe if we surprise them we have a chance if they have an off night and take us easy due to the scribes writing us off.
They have more talent but we need more endeavour and grit so maybe Cripps and Walsh can grind out a win by a goal or two if a few more players than usual can play 4 quarters.
I don't think we'll get smashed, Crows are not that good.
A 15 point honourable loss.
Backline a worry..
They have beat Collingwood and lost 3 close games to Fremantle, Geelong and the Bulldogs.
The only team we have played as good as those teams is Sydney.
Adelaide by plenty.
I'm okay with the selections though. Pittonet can't ruck on his own. HOK or Reidy need to plays we can give them a chance to make it.