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Title: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: crashlander on April 25, 2026, 10:09:07 am
Not on free to air TV. I'm not looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: crashlander on April 25, 2026, 11:07:37 pm
We lose by 14 points to a top 2 team. Before the game I might have taken it, but ... I won't enjoy watching the replay, but I will say something: we kicked 5 of the last 6 goals. We haven't come back after another team has had a run on us before, not like that.
Positives: [1] Patrick Cripps had 31 possessions, 7 tackles and 11 clearances! Some teams don't get 11 clearances, especially when we were so disadvantaged in the ruck. [2] Sam Walsh had 32 possessions, 7 tackles and 4 clearances. If this doesn't get noticed ...
Considering that we lost the first 11 clearances, these two can stand tall.
[3] Mitch McGovern kicked 3, and Kemp kicked 4. They can also put their hands out for their pay.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: bratblue on April 25, 2026, 11:16:08 pm
We seemed to have more space in the forward line without the ball and all the backs going to McKay.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: shawny on April 25, 2026, 11:20:47 pm
honourable loss
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: MickyO on April 25, 2026, 11:23:42 pm
Freo are 2nd on the ladder.
We are third? Bottom.
Thought they did well but for that 4 mins of the 4th! I was yelling, who the fck is on Bolton! I mean give it a break please, Please shut him down! Do something to take him out of the contest!
Cripps, Walsh and Cerra and Lord try and do too much and get caught. Can we please stop that?
Overall pretty pleased with that altho i believe we are better than this and need to pull the finger out and get moving.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: rocky on April 25, 2026, 11:24:44 pm
I know there's a lot of pro-Voss supporters that use the skilless knukleheads who continually butcher the ball to validate their point of view, and to a certain extent I agree but for me it's what's going on at selection and on game day that really grinds my gears. Voss has to take responsibility for the non-sensical stuff we've seen so for this year. We've all be witness to some absolutely putrid match day moves. I won't even go there. When you go through selection, Taylor Byrne should have been given a rest. Moir could not have been picked on form, Ison was a better option. Lewis Young is so terrible I'd be willing to play Flynn Young in his place. Weitering has been poor all year, yep I'll call it, but we can't even consider dropping him. Cerra has been given enough chances, If it has to be him or George I'll take George. Reidy was given an absolute lesson tonight, but it's not his fault, Florent another turnover merchant who we can't drop because we recruited him.Cottrell hadn't had enough time in the magoos. Can't believe he got picked. Season is over let's start picking blokes who deserve a chance. Noticed George and Billy Wilson had another day out in the 2's tonight. Ison kicked 4 goals,
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: MickyO on April 25, 2026, 11:25:46 pm
Are you being serious or sarcastic? We played at their home ground, they are second? Who were they missing besides Voss? Yes they kept us at arms length but if not for a few dumb trying to do too much efforts by our senior guys, we couldve done something.
Diabolical we let Bolton crap on us for 4 mins in the 4th tho 🙄
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 25, 2026, 11:39:12 pm
They controlled the game I felt for most of the night and had ascendancy at the stoppages and kicked goals from clearances.We kept at it but couldnt really get a run on until the last quarter where we kicked a few goals in a row but the game was gone by then. Didnt think the game was a great spectacle at any stage or reached any great heights skill wise, wasnt a turnover fest or overly error ridden but just a bit passive and lacked a player or two who could lift it to a higher level. I was expecting worse and we were competitive for more minutes of the game so maybe thats a good sign leading into the next game where we could take some of that late last quarter form in and make a quick start. Interesting in others thoughts on our forward line without Harry...less predictable, less bombing of the ball?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 25, 2026, 11:58:39 pm
We lose by 14 points to a top 2 team. Before the game I might have taken it, but ... I won't enjoy watching the replay, but I will say something: we kicked 5 of the last 6 goals. We haven't come back after another team has had a run on us before, not like that.
Positives: [1] Patrick Cripps had 31 possessions, 7 tackles and 11 clearances! Some teams don't get 11 clearances, especially when we were so disadvantaged in the ruck. [2] Sam Walsh had 32 possessions, 7 tackles and 4 clearances. If this doesn't get noticed ...
Considering that we lost the first 11 clearances, these two can stand tall.
[3] <itch McGovern kicked 3, and Kemp kicked 4. They can also put their hands out for their pay.
I believe the clearances were 12-0 but who's counting.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: MickyO on April 26, 2026, 12:09:10 am
Really enjoying watching Carroll.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: PaulP on April 26, 2026, 06:50:37 am
Gallant, all things considered.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 26, 2026, 07:28:01 am
Thought they did well but for that 4 mins of the 4th! I was yelling, who the fck is on Bolton! I mean give it a break please, Please shut him down! Do something to take him out of the contest!
Cripps, Walsh and Cerra and Lord try and do too much and get caught. Can we please stop that?
Overall pretty pleased with that altho i believe we are better than this and need to pull the finger out and get moving.
I cant believe how much Walsh gets caught. I mean the others sure but he surprises me.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: Lods on April 26, 2026, 07:36:17 am
I cant believe how much Walsh gets caught. I mean the others sure but he surprises me.
I think it's his acceleration. If he gets the ball on the fly he looks a million dollars. It's when he has to use that initial burst to get away from the contest that he's often run down.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: Professer E on April 26, 2026, 07:40:44 am
Daicos Bolton Pickett
All quick to break from contests, all goal kickers and all have killed us this year
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 26, 2026, 07:45:58 am
I have to watch it again but it seemed like they got into space in very easily all over the ground. There seems to be a common theme every week, the other mob does it easily (scoring) and we have to toil, hack and grind away for every goal. By that I mean: - kicks to packs in the fwd line just about every entry. - players having to outmark 2 opponents out on a wing when trying to transition. - hand balling to a player under more pressure than the ball carrier. I am also seeing very poor decision making from senior players. Newman and Weitering were particularly bad last night, the former with his positioning in defence and Newman with his kicks DTL to either an outnumber (in their favour) or where Jackson was. Weitering I thought was particularly bad with this body language towards his fellow defenders, the commentators were calling it poor handover. Sorry, on many occasions it was his man who out pointed him far too easily.
I haven't look at a stat but the following were largely unsighted for very long periods or I just didnt notice them: Cowan Florent Byrne Cottrell Smith Hayward Ainsworth Moir (until his two late goals) We had every chance to stick out noses in front and win it when we got to within 4 points. Yet another 4th qtr start of letting a star run rampant. As I mentioned, every week we get exposed by players of the type we dont have, for all his flaws, Bolton is exactly that. Speed, poise in front of goal and class.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: Lods on April 26, 2026, 07:57:28 am
We're off to Perth after the week from hell. Bashed from multiple sides. We won't have McKay, Pittonet and it's probably best we leave Ollie out too. We're third last We're going to play the second placed side on their home ground. We'll suffer the usual five to ten minute lapse when they'll pile on some goals. What's the margin???
We were always held comfortably at bay, but what didn't happen was the feared blowout. In fact it hasn't happened all year, except perhaps the Swans game. The team are going 'missing in action' for periods, but are never really being thrashed by a big margin.
I understand for some that's not good enough. And long term it will have ramifications for coach, list manager and some players. But while we can keep the margins manageable it gives us some hope things can turn around. A win or two would be nice.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: shawny on April 26, 2026, 08:19:09 am
All quick to break from contests, all goal kickers and all have killed us this year
I literally come on to say exactly that! Before the game i said to my son in law you watch us make Bolton look like a Ferrari.
So predicable. Nothing changes another season in the bin.
Start the rebuild now FFS.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: shawny on April 26, 2026, 08:37:49 am
Gone are the days when we would play a mixture of decent games then a sh1te one and lose to a bottom side then come out beat a top 4 team out of nowhere. No one saw those wins coming we were dangerous at times. We had some exciting fun out of nowhere wins even in the darker days. Not anymore - we are consistent now.
Consistent losers.
Every year the season is over earlier. Its R7 and we are cooked. Another year where we talk up the PS as being mid table or even better yet we sit with a lucky single win after 7 rounds. Another year where teams that are supposed to be weaker are stronger then us. Port, North, Melb are 2-4 wins gap on us and we have a tough run ahead. FFS WC is ahead of us and we are equal with Essendon!
Who will burn past us next year - there not many below is so at least the options are fewer!
Major changes on all levels needed folks. It's beyond filling a few holes a few tweaks.
Change the coach, the LM and make big calls on players on the list that have currency. If we are going to sit at the bottom for a few years at least use the time to stock pile the right players and try it again.
The rebuild is dead - accept it and make the bold calls needed and enough of the excuses.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: Baggers on April 26, 2026, 08:55:39 am
They controlled the game I felt for most of the night and had ascendancy at the stoppages and kicked goals from clearances.We kept at it but couldnt really get a run on until the last quarter where we kicked a few goals in a row but the game was gone by then. Didnt think the game was a great spectacle at any stage or reached any great heights skill wise, wasnt a turnover fest or overly error ridden but just a bit passive and lacked a player or two who could lift it to a higher level. I was expecting worse and we were competitive for more minutes of the game so maybe thats a good sign leading into the next game where we could take some of that late last quarter form in and make a quick start. Interesting in others thoughts on our forward line without Harry...less predictable, less bombing of the ball?
Yep, EB1.
MickyO also raised, IMHO, relevant points.
I learned more about the game watching Longmuir's post game media conference. His read on the end of the final qtr was that his boys lost their intent (aka, got far enough in front and relaxed a smidge) and let us back in, whereas Vossy's comment on the same period was that we responded and that is progress. Probably both right.
Vossy sure does like to use the word respond/response. Isn't that what you need to do once you've lost control/initiative?
MO is right, I believe, that once again we hampered ourselves at the selection table.
Cotters wasn't ready and we all knew that, but he's a Vossy fave. He won't be going anywhere unless injured. FIIK why Moir was selected ("Oh, H is out so we need another close to his height." His Magoos form didn't seem to matter) and let's be honest, our exciting future rippers in Deano, Jagga and The Byrner need time in the Magoos to manage their growth and serve an important apprenticeship.
Our Magoos boys did well in a hostile environment and on a ground they didn't know. I wonder if someday our MC (Vossy) will give reward for effort for blokes like Flynn Young, Billy Wilson, Jack Ison (better option than Moir) and Charlson (coming along nicely). Hewett is a much better option than Cerra.
Bottom line on last night's game is that the D1ckers always had our measure. But we have elevated ourselves into the brave and honourable loss category. We're a good third bottom side.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 26, 2026, 09:01:41 am
Is that the first game this year we have not led for any minutes?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 26, 2026, 09:05:25 am
They controlled the game I felt for most of the night and had ascendancy at the stoppages and kicked goals from clearances.We kept at it but couldnt really get a run on until the last quarter where we kicked a few goals in a row but the game was gone by then. Didnt think the game was a great spectacle at any stage or reached any great heights skill wise, wasnt a turnover fest or overly error ridden but just a bit passive and lacked a player or two who could lift it to a higher level. I was expecting worse and we were competitive for more minutes of the game so maybe thats a good sign leading into the next game where we could take some of that late last quarter form in and make a quick start. Interesting in others thoughts on our forward line without Harry...less predictable, less bombing of the ball?
Yep, EB1.
MickyO also raised, IMHO, relevant points.
I learned more about the game watching Longmuir's post game media conference. His read on the end of the final qtr was that his boys lost their intent (aka, got far enough in front and relaxed a smidge) and let us back in, whereas Vossy's comment on the same period was that we responded and that is progress. Probably both right.
Vossy sure does like to use the word respond/response. Isn't that what you need to do once you've lost control/initiative?
MO is right, I believe, that once again we hampered ourselves at the selection table.
Cotters wasn't ready and we all knew that, but he's a Vossy fave. He won't be going anywhere unless injured. FIIK why Moir was selected ("Oh, H is out so we need another close to his height." His Magoos form didn't seem to matter) and let's be honest, our exciting future rippers in Deano, Jagga and The Byrner need time in the Magoos to manage their growth and serve an important apprenticeship.
Our Magoos boys did well in a hostile environment and on a ground they didn't know. I wonder if someday our MC (Vossy) will give reward for effort for blokes like Flynn Young, Billy Wilson, Jack Ison (better option than Moir) and Charlson (coming along nicely). Hewett is a much better option than Cerra.
Bottom line on last night's game is that the D1ckers always had our measure. But we have elevated ourselves into the brave and honourable loss category. We're a good third bottom side.
Good post Baggers. Freo will come close to winning the flag I reckon so they are a seriously good side. The midfield is exeptional (Reid will win a Brownlow one day) and their fwd line is monstrous, aggressive and accurate. The only thing that will hold them back is Longmuir, thats an example of a coach who needs to go if he cant get that list into a GF.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: laj on April 26, 2026, 09:55:10 am
Is that the first game this year we have not led for any minutes?
Yes.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: LP on April 26, 2026, 11:24:16 am
Some positives.
I thought in the end Reidy did pretty well against someone who when fit and in form is probably one of the leagues Top 5 players.
Finally, Williams showed us some glimpses of what he can do inside, it's been too long since we listened to the noise and gave up on him as a midfield rotation option. One stupid little bump off the ball and we decided the gig wasn't for him, I'd argue that's exactly what we've been lacking.
Walsh has now fully transitioned his game, to all the naysayers who keep claiming nothing changes, he's the A-Grade counter argument to your otherwise spurious claims. To think just a week ago certain AFL Special Comments types were potting him. Even some fans were potting him yesterday for missing a +50m running shot at goal by 1m. :o For me at least we pulled the trigger, the first few rounds we've been gun shy!
If you want to see what Kemp might be able to do as a mid-rotation watch Jackson yesterday, Jackson has gone full circle and now he is a weapon in every role he plays. Kemp has the acceleration and enough size to be a genuine transition type mid-fielder.
It pays not to pigeonhole players.
It would be stupid to make permanent changes to rotations, but it's just as stupid to say never, variety is the spice of life!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: RiverRat on April 26, 2026, 11:45:54 am
I thought in the end Reidy did pretty well against someone who when fit and in form is probably one of the leagues Top 5 players.
Finally, Williams showed us some glimpses of what he can do inside, it's been too long since we listened to the noise and gave up on him as a midfield rotation option.
Reidy does show some potential around the ground but not so much in centre circle contests - even in the VFL he has struggled to get elevation - maybe the AFL will need to change the ruck rule again.
Williams has been pretty good in this area so far this year - as well as in defence.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 26, 2026, 01:58:54 pm
I thought in the end Reidy did pretty well against someone who when fit and in form is probably one of the leagues Top 5 players.
Finally, Williams showed us some glimpses of what he can do inside, it's been too long since we listened to the noise and gave up on him as a midfield rotation option. One stupid little bump off the ball and we decided the gig wasn't for him, I'd argue that's exactly what we've been lacking.
Walsh has now fully transitioned his game, to all the naysayers who keep claiming nothing changes, he's the A-Grade counter argument to your otherwise spurious claims. To think just a week ago certain AFL Special Comments types were potting him. Even some fans were potting him yesterday for missing a +50m running shot at goal by 1m. :o For me at least we pulled the trigger, the first few rounds we've been gun shy!
If you want to see what Kemp might be able to do as a mid-rotation watch Jackson yesterday, Jackson has gone full circle and now he is a weapon in every role he plays. Kemp has the acceleration and enough size to be a genuine transition type mid-fielder.
It pays not to pigeonhole players.
It would be stupid to make permanent changes to rotations, but it's just as stupid to say never, variety is the spice of life!
Walsh gets plenty of the ball but isnt a good kick and that goes for most of our midfield... Jackson has that basketball background and his skills transition over, its like having another midfielder but one who is 200cm. Doesnt help either when our blokes are playing off their man and he gets to do a give and go with Switkowski who was unmanned and then Jackson just strolls into goal ...set play?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: LP on April 26, 2026, 02:00:48 pm
Williams has been pretty good in this area so far this year - as well as in defence.
It's the right way to use him @RiverRat, it makes sense.
Too many fans are incapable of seeing the difference between nuanced approached and an all in. Williams and others in pinch hit roles are one of several keys needed to break moments of opposition domination. You diminish the oppositions stability when you have pinch hitters display short periods of competence. It was the same for us in reverse last night with Bolton.
I don't think this is primarily a coaching problem, it's about getting players to buy into the and accept periods through which they aren't the big show. Moments when Cripps, Walsh, Cerra, Hewett are the support act.
FWIW, I think we can do the same with H and other forwards, at the moment H leads and we kick it to him, he can break that predictability by spending some time as a decoy forward. But he has to buy into it, he can't always lead expecting the footy. In this regard we are better off without Charlie, because technically we now have more roughly equal choices.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: LP on April 26, 2026, 02:02:32 pm
Doesnt help either when our blokes are playing off their man and he gets to do a give and go with Switkowski who was unmanned and then Jackson just strolls into goal ...set play?
Seriously @ElwoodBlues1 who is our 200cm player who can run with Jackson, or for that matter who is our 195cm player that can run with Jackson?
FWIW, is there another playing anywhere in the AFL that is comparable in size and can go with Jackson on the burst?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 26, 2026, 02:24:22 pm
Doesnt help either when our blokes are playing off their man and he gets to do a give and go with Switkowski who was unmanned and then Jackson just strolls into goal ...set play?
Seriously @ElwoodBlues1 who is our 200cm player who can run with Jackson, or for that matter who is our 195cm player that can run with Jackson?
FWIW, is there another playing anywhere in the AFL that is comparable in size and can go with Jackson on the burst?
Its the unmanned Switkowski that was the problem, Jackson had that option to handpass then use that pace to get the ball back, how does a bloke have no opponent within cooee straight after a centre square ball up? Agree Jackson is hard to match up on,unique and made for the modern game/rules so much so that Darcy is now a redundant Dinosaur and having to play Jackson 95% of the time onball has really improved Freo.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: LygonStreetLimbo on April 26, 2026, 04:01:17 pm
Thought they did well but for that 4 mins of the 4th! I was yelling, who the fck is on Bolton! I mean give it a break please, Please shut him down! Do something to take him out of the contest!
Cripps, Walsh and Cerra and Lord try and do too much and get caught. Can we please stop that?
Overall pretty pleased with that altho i believe we are better than this and need to pull the finger out and get moving.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: LygonStreetLimbo on April 26, 2026, 04:02:58 pm
Perhaps the same player was on Bolton in the last quarter as who was on N Daicos the week prior
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: LP on April 26, 2026, 10:54:16 pm
Watching the replay there was more than a fair bit of luck regarding Bolton's last quarter of winning the footy, actually more than once it ricocheted off other players to fall in his lap. But in contrast to us, when he got the lucky possession he used it, he did not waste it.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: Blue Moon on April 27, 2026, 02:31:45 pm
Not being able to hit targets, especially by hand, ball handling errors, decision making, not getting all the umpiring decisions, missing tackles, especially in the centre square, consistently dumping long kicks where we are out numbered and out sized, and missing too many gettable goals was the reason we lost. I think Cripps' hands are too slow and too often too many players think too long about what they are going to do which allows our opponents to shut down the space and increase the pressure on us. Our players also don't give off the hand ball every time ,there was one instance when Reidy was running out of the centre square and Cripps was running next to him and calling for the ball but Reidy kicked it instead, we finished up with a goal but too often this isn't the case. We don't look wide when going into the forward fifty, and we don't go short often enough, which allows the opposition defenders to mass in the middle around the top of the goal square because they know that's where the ball is going. We were outclassed most of the night but the players kept at it and the reason we got goals late was because Fremantle couldn't keep the pace up. I thought Moir kept Pearce quiet for three quarters, who is their best defender, and was able to kick a couple when McGovern took him in the last quarter. He has got good skills. I think Carroll has improved out of sight but needs to improve his kicking into the forward fifty. Dean probably needs a rest, as does Byrne, while Cowan isn't getting near the ball at the moment, and I still don't know what the point of Cerra is. It was probably our most consistent effort so far this year.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: ratlice on April 27, 2026, 03:24:39 pm
Voss said in the press conference that we are better now than what we were 4 weeks ago. The problem is, so is everyone else!!!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: PaulP on April 27, 2026, 03:55:17 pm
Coaches' votes :
9 Shai Bolton (FRE) 9 Luke Jackson (FRE) 5 Sam Walsh (CARL) 4 Andrew Brayshaw (FRE) 2 Patrick Cripps (CARL) 1 Brodie Kemp (CARL)
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: cookie2 on April 27, 2026, 04:04:00 pm
In a way, yes. I was pleased to see equal representation - 3 players each from Freo and Carlton. That hasn't always been the case this season. Shai Bolton is obviously a few years older than in the Richmond premiership years, but is still a threat and can tear it up when he wants to. And Jackson is coming into his own.
Walshy has polled in pretty much every game from memory.
And on a side note, I see Charlie Curnow scored a perfect 10. Lucky us.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 27, 2026, 09:10:09 pm
Any chance we could have borrowed Ed's Farm this week? We need another dam session.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: LP on April 27, 2026, 11:29:17 pm
Watching the replay there was more than a fair bit of luck regarding Bolton's last quarter of winning the footy, actually more than once it ricocheted off other players to fall in his lap. But in contrast to us, when he got the lucky possession he used it, he did not waste it.
Bolton always creeps forward of the stoppage and is always seemingly on his own if they win the ball. Surely we should have known this, and always had someone goal side of him.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: LP on April 28, 2026, 11:48:20 am
Bolton always creeps forward of the stoppage and is always seemingly on his own if they win the ball. Surely we should have known this, and always had someone goal side of him.
Well I think the intent was to try and make sure the pill didn't get to him in the first place rather than try to compete with him in a 50/50. More than once he only got the pill because of dead set luck. If not for a severe crooked bounce or a massive ricochet we would have prevented it successfully several times, we did prevent it several times but not every time. Even so Bolton's use of the ball once he gets it was impressive, to me that justifies the coaching votes. I can't tell you if that was normal for Bolton or a night out.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: DJC on April 29, 2026, 11:31:33 am
Another disappointing result but there were some positives.
First of all, Luke Jackson has to be in career best form. Some may categorise him as an "undersized" ruckman but he seems to have the ideal combination of size and agility. The combination of Jackson and Mason Cox seems to work very well and I'm not sure what Freo will do with Sean Darcy. Despite Jackson's dominance, I thought that Liam Reidy was very good for us and was more than competitive. His ruckwork was good and he had an impact around the ground. He has quick hands and reacts quickly and I think that he could develop into a very handy ruckman.
We got absolutely smashed in the clearances in the first quarter but turned that around and won the clearances for the next three quarters. The quarter time adjustments made a difference.
Sam Walsh was brilliant and it's great to see him powering away from opponents.
Brodie Kemp played what must be his best game as a key forward, against quality opposition and without much support. It was good to see him make the most of his chances and that would be heartening for those who worked hard to get the ball to him.
Aston Moir had a quiet night but kicked truly when he got the pill. I don't think that he'll ever be a high possession player but I'll take it if he can chime in with a couple of goals each week.
Matt Carroll has really come on and is relishing his role on the wing. I think that we're getting better value from him there, particularly with his ability to kick truly for goal or hit a target.
Nic Newman is getting back to his best. We really missed his defensive efforts and ability to transition the ball from defence. Matt Cottrell's return was a little unexpected but well worth it. I'm not sure what it is about Cotters; he's a little unorthodox and works extremely hard.
We've got at least half a dozen blokes in the VFL side bashing on the MC's door and three or four changes this week wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: LP on April 29, 2026, 04:37:43 pm
Brodie Kemp played what must be his best game as a key forward, against quality opposition and without much support. It was good to see him make the most of his chances and that would be heartening for those who worked hard to get the ball to him.
Aston Moir had a quiet night but kicked truly when he got the pill. I don't think that he'll ever be a high possession player but I'll take it if he can chime in with a couple of goals each week.
I'm rapidly losing interest in Moir for the reason he seems to impart a massive work-load on those around him. He's so laconic he often looks disinterested and appears to be going half-hearted at the contest.
Contrast that to Kemp, who despite having a wretched run of form has never really stopped working hard, and perhaps last weekend he saw a pay-off for effort. Hopefully he can rinse and repeat.
Excluding when Kemp has taken out a team-mate, the contrast in contribution to team work ethic between Kemp and Moir is striking!
I often direct criticism at Young, but at least this season he tries even if he fails, I'm not sure that was always the case, that is all that can be asked of a player. If players like that can be coached into turning effort into success, then kudos to the coaching staff.
But, I can't ever forgive someone who gives up at least trying.
If I walked off next to Kemp I'd be thinking at least he tried hard, if I walked off next to Moir I'd be thinking he must be reasting up for a bucks party!
PS; I realise my perception is not reality, I can't help but see what I see.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 29, 2026, 04:46:42 pm
Brodie Kemp played what must be his best game as a key forward, against quality opposition and without much support. It was good to see him make the most of his chances and that would be heartening for those who worked hard to get the ball to him.
Aston Moir had a quiet night but kicked truly when he got the pill. I don't think that he'll ever be a high possession player but I'll take it if he can chime in with a couple of goals each week.
I'm rapidly losing interest in Moir for the reason he seems to impart a massive work-load on those around him. He's so laconic he often looks disinterested and appears to be going half-hearted at the contest.
Contrast that to Kemp, who despite having a wretched run of form has never really stopped working hard, and perhaps last weekend he saw a pay-off for effort. Hopefully he can rinse and repeat.
Excluding when Kemp has taken out a team-mate, the contrast in contribution to team work ethic between Kemp and Moir is striking!
I often direct criticism at Young, but at least this season he tries even if he fails, I'm not sure that was always the case, that is all that can be asked of a player. If players like that can be coached into turning effort into success, then kudos to the coaching staff.
But, I can't ever forgive someone who gives up at least trying.
If I walked off next to Kemp I'd be thinking at least he tried hard, if I walked off next to Moir I'd be thinking he must be reasting up for a bucks party!
He looks like a player that doesnt want to be in Melb and will be looking for a trade back to Adelaide. Rachele for Moir, done deal.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: LP on April 29, 2026, 04:50:22 pm
He looks like a player that doesnt want to be in Melb and will be looking for a trade back to Adelaide.
At the moment there may be a few on our list with that type of mindset, but you make real what you believe!
If you cross that line with disinterest and dread, disinterest and dread is what you'll get!
I saw a video of Cottrell talking about Ainsworth. THATS the type of player we need at our club. The Application form should have 4 questions: 1. Can you run fast? 2. Can you kick well? 3. Do you want to win? 4. Are you a Kent? If you answered yes to all 4, welcome to the CFC and you will be considered for the captaincy.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: kruddler on April 29, 2026, 05:03:03 pm
Moir is still only a kid. Just turned 21, hasn't even played 15 games yet.
He may well have a long career and i expect it to be similar to someone like Houlihan who will constantly be berated for the way he 'looks' when he plays.
Its not the 'in' thing at the moment for someone to conserve their energy and not waste it chasing someone they will never catch. The 'in' thing is why someone like Fogarty has kept someone like Moir out of the side. Run, chase, tackle.
At the end of the day, whoever kicks the most goals wins games. Moir might do nothing for 90% of the game, but he'll likely kick you a goal or 2 in the other 10%.....which is an upgrade on Fogarty. I actually wrote that before deciding to double check my observations.
13 games 15 goals (7 behinds)
1.15 goals/ game
Fogarty 76 games 36 goals (40 behinds) 0.39 goals/game
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: DJC on April 29, 2026, 05:42:07 pm
Moir is still only a kid. Just turned 21, hasn't even played 15 games yet.
He may well have a long career and i expect it to be similar to someone like Houlihan who will constantly be berated for the way he 'looks' when he plays.
Its not the 'in' thing at the moment for someone to conserve their energy and not waste it chasing someone they will never catch. The 'in' thing is why someone like Fogarty has kept someone like Moir out of the side. Run, chase, tackle.
At the end of the day, whoever kicks the most goals wins games. Moir might do nothing for 90% of the game, but he'll likely kick you a goal or 2 in the other 10%.....which is an upgrade on Fogarty. I actually wrote that before deciding to double check my observations.
13 games 15 goals (7 behinds)
1.15 goals/ game
Fogarty 76 games 36 goals (40 behinds) 0.39 goals/game
I suspect that you're on the money with Moir. He will probably have a long career distinguished by brilliant cameos from time to time, consistent goal kicking but never really taking the game by the scruff of the neck. Jack Ison seems to be a similar player and those two may end up competing for the same spot.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: DJC on April 29, 2026, 05:48:25 pm
I saw a video of Cottrell talking about Ainsworth. THATS the type of player we need at our club. The Application form should have 4 questions: 1. Can you run fast? 2. Can you kick well? 3. Do you want to win? 4. Are you a Kent? If you answered yes to all 4, welcome to the CFC and you will be considered for the captaincy.
Our man Thry predicted that Ainsworth would be the pick of our new recruits and it seems that he's nailed it. Ainsworth hasn't yet played his best footy for us, but his energy and competitiveness seems contagious.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: Professer E on April 29, 2026, 06:00:39 pm
Ainsworth plays like he gives a f...., Moir doesn't. Ison also plays with urgency and is more than capable playing further up the ground, so Moir needs to extract the digit. Oh, if he thinks we're going to let him chuff off the Adelaide .... BZZZXT wrong answer.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: crashlander on April 30, 2026, 10:18:39 am
Just watching the replay (I don't have pay TV) and not enjoying it much at all.
[1] Structurally, we are really struggling. We don't have the right people for the job. We lack athleticism all over the field. Our better players are not being as effective as they have in the past (Weitering, Cripps, even Walsh, although he's trying damned hard and has been our best this year). We don't have the right age demographic. We're playing with very little confidence.
[2] Cerra is having a shocking season. He isn't making an impact, his disposal has been ordinary and he has been fumbling a lot. His lack of pace at the moment is also hurting us in the centre square. I think he needs to go back to the VFL for George Hewett. George doesn't have the pace we really need either, but at least he's in better form now, after a spell.
[3] Sam Walsh's disposal is becoming an issue. God knows he's working hard enough, but he just isn't hitting the mark far too often. he's never been a great kick at goal, but his lack of goalkicking prowess really sticks out at the moment.
[4] It is actually terrible that Nick Haynes is so important for us. He couldn't get a game at GWS and he isn't quick or strong, but he has been one of our best defenders.
[5] Ashton Moir ... no, I'm not going there. Perhaps our next coach can get the best out of him.
[6] Our players need to spend a lot of time in the gym. We aren't strong enough far too often. Our tackles get broken too often, while we rarely break tackles. Guys like Moir, Smith and Byrne need to live in the gym until they have muscles like Rachele of Adelaide. Same goes for Lewis Young.
[7] I've talked about our ruck situation, our poor disposal and our questionable decision making enough. I'm not going to bring them up again, but it is very clear that these are issues we have not addressed adequately.
[8] I really dislike Mason Cox. The guy does so little, yet we allow him to do more against us than he does against anyone else. And his attitude. No, I'm not going there.
[9] Frankie Evans probably needs to go back to the VFL for a while. I love the way he goes about things, but he is also nowhere near his best form. He dropped 3 potential marks he should have held within range of goal. Give him a week or two to get the confidence in his body (which I'm sure is one of the reasons he hasn't been as good) and some form, and give Flynn Young a go.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: bratblue on April 30, 2026, 03:26:42 pm
Moir is still only a kid. Just turned 21, hasn't even played 15 games yet.
He may well have a long career and i expect it to be similar to someone like Houlihan who will constantly be berated for the way he 'looks' when he plays.
Bluesgirl didn't mind.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 30, 2026, 03:50:14 pm
Just watching the replay (I don't have pay TV) and not enjoying it much at all.
[1] Structurally, we are really struggling. We don't have the right people for the job. We lack athleticism all over the field. Our better players are not being as effective as they have in the past (Weitering, Cripps, even Walsh, although he's trying damned hard and has been our best this year). We don't have the right age demographic. We're playing with very little confidence.
[2] Cerra is having a shocking season. He isn't making an impact, his disposal has been ordinary and he has been fumbling a lot. His lack of pace at the moment is also hurting us in the centre square. I think he needs to go back to the VFL for George Hewett. George doesn't have the pace we really need either, but at least he's in better form now, after a spell.
[3] Sam Walsh's disposal is becoming an issue. God knows he's working hard enough, but he just isn't hitting the mark far too often. he's never been a great kick at goal, but his lack of goalkicking prowess really sticks out at the moment.
[4] It is actually terrible that Nick Haynes is so important for us. He couldn't get a game at GWS and he isn't quick or strong, but he has been one of our best defenders.
[5] Ashton Moir ... no, I'm not going there. Perhaps our next coach can get the best out of him.
[6] Our players need to spend a lot of time in the gym. We aren't strong enough far too often. Our tackles get broken too often, while we rarely break tackles. Guys like Moir, Smith and Byrne need to live in the gym until they have muscles like Rachele of Adelaide. Same goes for Lewis Young.
[7] I've talked about our ruck situation, our poor disposal and our questionable decision making enough. I'm not going to bring them up again, but it is very clear that these are issues we have not addressed adequately.
[8] I really dislike Mason Cox. The guy does so little, yet we allow him to do more against us than he does against anyone else. And his attitude. No, I'm not going there.
[9] Frankie Evans probably needs to go back to the VFL for a while. I love the way he goes about things, but he is also nowhere near his best form. He dropped 3 potential marks he should have held within range of goal. Give him a week or two to get the confidence in his body (which I'm sure is one of the reasons he hasn't been as good) and some form, and give Flynn Young a go.
Spot on Crash
Title: Re: AFL Rd 7 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Fremantle
Post by: LP on April 30, 2026, 06:49:39 pm
He may well have a long career and i expect it to be similar to someone like Houlihan who will constantly be berated for the way he 'looks' when he plays.
There's a difference between someone like The Hyphen or Houlihan who looked laconic but had an impact, even Brad Pearce had moments of what could be best described as appearing to cruise, but they all had an impact and were competitive.
I realise Moir is young, but he needs to find a way to have an impact regardless of how he looks.