Starts at 20:15 tonight in Perth.
Cottrell in as a late replacement for Ollie Hollands.
Hope he can impress. At least he is less likely to be have complaints about his disposal.
Patrick Voss late out, that helps..
Florent should not be kicking out
Lewis just blinkered Weiers with a defensive handover wtf !
Blindsided
Don't worry about kicking out.
He should not be kicking....at all.
Awesome trade that one.
Clearances 11-0 to freo.
You reckon we are not missing Pitto! :o
Umps bending us over..
Weitwring spoiled Dean lol. Comedy show
Is Moir playing ?
Walsh needs to lower his eyes.
Too many long bombs that do nothing but give the opposition the advantage....and usually an easy intercept
We refuse to lower our eyes going into forward line.
Need to keep the ball low not feckin bomb it in
Not a bad 1st quarter considering how poorly we played
He is. On the Supercoach or Champion Data, got no idea what they call it, but he is -3.
He didn't deserve a game...
WA umps, WA commentators- great
Reidy was a great pick up.
Can he stop over in Adelaide on the way home and stay there?
Reidy looks completely out of his depth..
Weitering looks out of his depth.
Against Treacy for sure. Big strong unit.
To be fair, ball is coming in very clean, no pressure from our mids
50 minutes of play.
Cripps has just 6 touches.
....7
Freo are starting to flex their muscles which I can accept as they are, on paper, a better team overall.
However, what this additional pressure does is highlight how some of our players are just not up to it and never will be. Sadly, most of them are the usual suspects too.
Just from one quarter, its really obvious now, Haynes & Reidy have to get a line put through their name.
The other thing is, Evans & Ainsworth cannot take set shots from around the 50m arc, they just cannot make the distance.
That goal umpire just wanted to slow the play down. Disgracefully bias.
We are definitely getting nothing from umps.
Frankie Evans should have had a shot at goal for holding the ball against Freo. Goes up the other end Dean gets pushed out, goal to Freo
Yes, Haynes.
At 33yo, we will never ever be a threat whilst he is in the team.
Crippa having a shocker..zero influence
We are not a threat with him out of the team either.
He is better than anyone else in the vfl (which is essentially noone) so not sure what you expect.
He's been like that all season, he has to go as well, he's a broken down old tractor now.
And you can add Cerra into that group as well, just isn't consistent enough.
Throwing Dean under the bus.
Umpire to the left of screen must be an Eagles fan
I'd rather load-up on youth and see how we go.
The whole recruiting dept & talent identification process has to come under the microscope now.
Not exactly the first one on my list.....but anyway. Probably not many others either.
Haynes is our best backman.
You write that, and to a degree I agree, but pretty much every young bloke they tried you bag mercilessly from game 1.
You want to have your cake and eat it, and you can't, it's impossible.
Good think Kemp and McGovern are playing.
That makes it even worse then.
Losing O'Farrell has exposed us a bit this year, however, next season we can start to look at the defence as part of our foundation, he will work well in tandem with Dean.
Ok, name me 1 player we should replace him with....just 1. Anyone.
I'll wait.
Why the hell would Newman go LDL to where Jackson and Reidy are? Just dumb from a senior player.
Some encouragement in the twos. Ison with 3 goals and Wilson with 31 touches. They other bloke there, Hewett, is going well with 27, maybe we should give him a go and see how he stands up in the big league...lol.
That is because our people keep bringing in newbies who are either flaky or have questionable skills.
I keep coming back to this but its our talent identification that is killing us and has been for near on a decade.
Hayward misses could have made is 1 pt. Cox kicks it and extends the lead FFS
Walsh another long bomb inside 50.
Any chance he could hit a target?
I've said it once and I'll say it another 1000 times, we have to enter into yet another rebuild process because we are carrying way too many list-cloggers.
If we had a better list, then Haynes wouldn't be getting a game and we wouldn't have brought Reidy into the club either.
Why did we sign him for 8-years ??
The missed tackles, oh my days!!! Add tackling coach to the list of priority appointments.
Thanks, there isn't a single person we can bring in, which is why he is playing.
So stop demanding he get dropped because there isn't anyone to replace him.
As for the list management of the club, i think you'll find I've been more vocal than most on how screwed we are.
This is why we are where we are.
We have no choice but to play the players we are and the results are expected.
Its not a Voss problem.
I was just about to post this! So many freo mids dancing around stoppages, and getting easy handballs out of contests. Gives such an advantage to them when they know we will only stop them about 20% of the time
Also, why is Bolton always on his own 10m goal side of the stoppage. If he always cheats out, then have his man just start 5m off him, goal side
1. Because he is one with talent that wants to be at the club.
2. Because if he changes his mind later, we get to cash in, like charlie getting us 3x 1st rounders.
Its not a lack of talent, it's poor decision making.
Our endeavour and pressure is very good.
We just dont have the class to get the benefit from it. There are players coming to the end and some not up to it.
We are not getting blown away, so not all doom + gloom
Ainsworth may have made the distance if the freo player took the mark where the umpire asked him to. Told him to move back a few meters, to where the free was given, and he just didn’t …..
Doing ok, considering getting smashed in the ruck and Moir, Byrne, Cowan and even jagga haven’t got near it
On a bright note Moir is out of the negatives. He's made it to 1.
cripps commercials are annoying the sh1te out me
Every time we have a chance to get back in it, we shank one.
We are third last for a reason so if you want to argue over week to week team selections then knock yourself out, I'm not interested.
I'm referring to the list management that must take place at the end of the year !!
Lol....
You don't read much on this site do you.
Reidy is doing okay.
I do ....... just not your stuff. :D
Crippa looks really off the pace. Playing injured?
Btw, Haynes is34 next month.
Is that sarcasm? He is getting smashed
Looks like we've subbed in Moir.
Thats why you need moir.
Doesn't need much of it, is dangerous when he gets it.
Getting experience. Will be ok.
They're still having a crack
Jackson beats everyone.
He's doing OK.
He was off injured at one stage.
I agree, he's competing at least.
Seems our best ruck is not on our list. Flynn Riley was tremendous in Tassie tonight.
Lewis Young would've been tremendous against them tonight.
Reidy isnt the worst out there, but i wouldn't be praising him too much agaibst his old mob.
This game is ruining our 'time in front' ladder ranking.
Florent makes critical mistakes in defence.
He loses possession of the ball too easily.
Not reliable back there
He had no opposition, Tassie have KPPs trying to ruck.
We even had Derksen and Hewett win ruck contests.
He was extremely relaible up here whilst at the Swans, 6-7 weeks at Princes Park and he has gone backwards.
Fatigue kicking in now. Going to get ugly.
The term is "Carltonised"...lol.
Alarm bells ringing...
Yep...done ok but floodgates about to open before inevitable 6 goal loss
Not the type of player we needed, turn over merchant as EB likes to say. Thanks Nick Austin.
Our game style can be very taxing. Once we're buggered sides kills us on the outside.
Yep, just can’t get his hands on it in the middle. Then, when he does around the ground, has no time at all
If like to think we have kept a bit in the tank to attack this last quarter and break our habit of falling away.
But its been a tough week with all the elijah stuff, big trip to the west, i expect the opposite might be true.
Quite a few players have been quiet up tp this point, not least of which is the captain. Time for some cripps domination??
Our mids are so slow we get murdered in transition. Playing Smith out of position to ensure every ounce of confidence is ironed out of him completely. Voss changes nothing. Same same.. How stupid.
What outside mids do you want voss to bring in?
Hes dropped our best and fairest winner to try and improve it....but the cupboard is bare.
What a load of BS this taxing game plan baloney is. What's taxing is the turnovers which lead to our blokes chasing but all night. We got smashed in contested footy and clearances in the 1st qtr. If we could:
- hit more, not saying everyone, but more targets consistently.
- take our opportunities in front of goal
- stick some tackles, oppo players walk through us so easily.
Watch voss move the magnets.
I watch football. We get blown away late every game in the last qtr. FMD, how do you miss that. What other reason is there. Always spin!
Why is our game style taxing?
Voss just made 5 players slip over then. Poor coaching.
Gees we carry some passengers...about half the side tonight
He told Lewis Young to butcher that kick.
F@rkin Lewis F$##kin Young. Dumbest footballer in history
Need to be bold and maybe put Haywood in the middle or even Florent
Ainsworth, Williams, Smith try Caroll. F#*# it's the definition of stupid doing the same thing over and over, it's not working
how predictable a small forward gets pff the leash. so consistent at losing the exact same way.
Handball misses a target by an inch, they run away from goal. Ball bounces between 3 blues, and somehow finds a docker, run away for a goal. It’s amazing when it ain’t going your way, everything goes wrong
At least 2 of them have been in the middle tonight already.
This happens every week.its not mental. It's fatigue,
Florent overan the feckin ball again. Turnover, goal. Useless
nah mate he has this one wood he turns to - put cripps forward.
he is great contested mark and great kick for goal.
This has been happening since Andrew Russell left.
Jackson deserves tdk money. He actually delivers.
We still play the hard contested game, bashing and crashing, it's all we have, no side does it better. In the modern game though it is alot more about transition and we are no good at it. Hence once we are stuffed side run all over us.
There's alot of delusion. Meanwhile, after sitting 3rd for time in front this season we are about to fall to 1-6. FFS, tell me what other reason there is. Don't people have any idea? Seriously!
Have a look, 4pts down not long ago, now 41. F me!
I wasn't expecting us to be only 3-goals behind at 3/4 time so kudos to them for that.
However, I wasn't expecting Freo to kick 4-goals in 3.5mins to blow the game wide open either.
He's a good one. A ruck who is equally good up forward. One of the few types that allows you to play two rucks.
bolton had 8 touches in first 4 1/2 mins. ground hog day every fking week
Fremantle have crashed and bashed better than us. Why aren't they tired?
Cripps takes a shot on the run to an open goalsquare ....... out on the full. :-X
Cripps last 2 kicks.
1. Into jaggas back.
2 out on the full.
When its not your day....
It's mental, not physical.
We pack it in when teams apply the blowtorch.
We all know it
You have any idea. This happens every week to us, even in the game we won. Have a bloody look. Week in, week out. Don't spin any other crap to me. What else could it be. I've been and Ex Phys for years, I know fatigue when I see it.
When you watch that Haydn Young, he never ever wastes a disposal, they are always pinpoint & attacking..
Yes, he is one of the best in the game but it gives us a guide to the difference in standards that we have to get our playing list up to.
2 best mids, 2 misses in front of goal.
If only we had players who could kick....anyone??
Sack voss.
This.
Our players were injured under him. And now we can’t run out games.
Maybe we should bring him back
I'm watching us fall in a screaming heaps again. No 3 for time in front yet about to fall to 1-6. Even the game we won the same thing happened. Could have been 0-7. Take away the delusion and have a look. Week in, week out for god knows how long now.
11 from 39, Sack Voss! Enjoy your losses.
Extend voss for min of a 5 years to show belief as sacking coaches never worked for us.
And we better be quick as rival clubs are ready to pounce if we stall.
Plenty of positives tonight against a premiership contender.
Murphy Reid just shrugs Williams out of the contest like he was a rag-doll playing his first game - embarrassing.
Carroll had been a possitive
I think Carroll has some upside, he's got a good left-foot and he normally fights everything out as if his life depends on it.
He is a 'keeper' and one of the last things we have to worry about.
Mason cox picking on ainsworth....reidy camw to his aid and told him to pick on someone his own size.
Cox quickly backed down.
Well done reidy.
Still a heart beat after 2 quick ones.
Just enough to get is interested before disappointing us 1 more time...lol.
Williams in the guts….. nice result
Cripps.....coach killer
Cripps left foot snap from 45 degree angle.
Sack Voss
Very very little from Moir Byrne Evans Ainsworth Williams five smaller blokes supposed to set up and kick goals and put some pressure on defenders exiting F50.
Time to try somebody else - Ison? F. Young?
And try a different centre square set up FFS
we are incapable of changing anything.
but hey lets celebrate the junk time goals like we usually do and another honourable loss
Go to the post game thread, people. Maybe if I bottle this one up, it will trap all the frustration we all feel with it.