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Title: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: crashlander on April 25, 2026, 10:13:55 am
Another Saturday night game, this time at Marvel. 2nd of May. Starts at 19:35. I wonder what will go wrong with the trains this time?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Adelaideblue on April 25, 2026, 11:16:42 am
correction
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 26, 2026, 08:25:10 am
Some changes are needed - If Pittonet is out with an extended injury (again), I think we need to consider both O'Keeffe and Reidy in the team (especially against TDK and Marshall. They wouldnt carry their bags but they are both a must structurally IMO. - Byrne needs a rest and F Young needs to come in - Ison probably needs a go at the expense of? - George needs to come back in and Cerra needs to play in the VFL (both slow but George is a far better footballer). - I assume McKay will come back in. Out Cerra Byrne L Young Cottrell Evans in Hewett F Young O'Keefe McKay Ison Wont happen, probably will be Out L Young Byrne In McKay F young
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Professer E on April 26, 2026, 08:38:40 am
Agree with all that. Cottrell is important but not fit enough for his role ATM. Look at swapping out Florent for Ollie...much of a muchness but need to send a message re standards and making mistakes. Smith needs a break too. Williams needs a rocket, been invisible. And badly need to come up with some alternative centre square set ups because it's getting very predictable and stale. Not sure what to do with Moir- teases with glimpses but being invisible for 98% of games (no tackles) doesn't work. At least Frank applies some pressure. How long do we persist here?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: shawny on April 26, 2026, 08:44:32 am
Just thinking who from Saints is in need of a form lift....
Hmm Milera has been quiet. He will get 30 and kick 3 as an unchecked half back flanker
TDK is another one. We will make look like he is being paid unders.
Or will it be one of their small forwards who gets off the chain and kicks 5.
Nah rest assure Voss will have a plan this week how to curtail the matchwinners of the opposition
I need to stop. :-X
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Professer E on April 26, 2026, 08:49:06 am
Yea it's a familiar script isn't it?
I'd give Carroll the covering job on NWM... At least he's mobile enough and his marking might keep NAS a touch more accountable
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Lods on April 26, 2026, 08:50:08 am
I'm going a bit more radical.... :D
McKay to CHB Derksen CHF Moir to the midfield.
Jagga, Byrne and Dean to the VFL to get the winning feeling. Lord can join them for bonding as a young group.
Hewett back for Cerra F Young for Evans Wilson, Charleson in for Cowan, Cottrell (I told you he needed another week or two)
Chesser in for Carroll (This boy needs to be kept away from the rest of the side for his own sake and development. :D )
And I'm only half joking with some of these. ;) :D
BTW I suspect we might see the record for most booed in a single game go next week. If not on the field, when they flash to a shot of SOS in the crowd.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 26, 2026, 09:12:18 am
Just thinking who from Saints is in need of a form lift....
Hmm Milera has been quiet. He will get 30 and kick 3 as an unchecked half back flanker
TDK is another one. We will make look like he is being paid unders.
Or will it be one of their small forwards who gets off the chain and kicks 5.
Nah rest assure Voss will have a plan this week how to curtail the matchwinners of the opposition
I need to stop. :-X
Nothing surer that NWM will have a ball tearer and TDK will monster our ruckman. The former yet another example of what we dont have on our list, speed, poise, ball use.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 26, 2026, 09:27:12 am
The skipper needs to have a big game with his longtime nemesis Jack Steele no longer a Saint. We need to find a player to stop Jack Sinclair too, that bloke never plays a bad game against us and is constantly on his own without an opponent just racking up possessions and running us ragged. I think I want to beat StKilda more than any other team in the comp given the Carlton connections, cant have them stealing our players and then having bragging rights about beating us. Thats too much to cop from such a rubbish club and even their president Andrew Bassat annoys me with his cocky bravado, about the only thing I like about the club are Lyons pressers which are comedy gold and I look forward to seeing him perform when we beat them..
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: cookie2 on April 26, 2026, 09:35:01 am
The skipper needs to have a big game with his longtime nemesis Jack Steele no longer a Saint. We need to find a player to stop Jack Sinclair too, that bloke never plays a bad game against us and is constantly on his own without an opponent just racking up possessions and running us ragged. I think I want to beat StKilda more than any other team in the comp given the Carlton connections, cant have them stealing our players and then having bragging rights about beating us. Thats too much to cop from such a rubbish club and even their president Andrew Bassat annoys me with his cocky bravado, about the only thing I like about the club are Lyons pressers which are comedy gold and I look forward to seeing him perform when we beat them..
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Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: laj on April 26, 2026, 09:50:08 am
Some changes are needed - If Pittonet is out with an extended injury (again), I think we need to consider both O'Keeffe and Reidy in the team (especially against TDK and Marshall. They wouldnt carry their bags but they are both a must structurally IMO. - Byrne needs a rest and F Young needs to come in - Ison probably needs a go at the expense of? - George needs to come back in and Cerra needs to play in the VFL (both slow but George is a far better footballer). - I assume McKay will come back in. Out Cerra Byrne L Young Cottrell Evans in Hewett F Young O'Keefe McKay Ison Wont happen, probably will be Out L Young Byrne In McKay F young
After 39 touches Billy wilson my be a shot, and he has so real pace.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on April 26, 2026, 10:28:37 am
Just thinking who from Saints is in need of a form lift....
Hmm Milera has been quiet. He will get 30 and kick 3 as an unchecked half back flanker
TDK is another one. We will make look like he is being paid unders.
Or will it be one of their small forwards who gets off the chain and kicks 5.
Nah rest assure Voss will have a plan this week how to curtail the matchwinners of the opposition
I need to stop. :-X
Nothing surer that NWM will have a ball tearer and TDK will monster our ruckman. The former yet another example of what we dont have on our list, speed, poise, ball use.
Not surprising that 2 of the highest paid players in the game may cause us grief.
You think of that yourself did you Shawny? Gold star for you.
Also happens to be 2 players we have not a single matchup for on our list. But it'll be Vossys fault he doesn't have a unicorn ruck and an elite stoppage midfielder with pace to burn to play on these 2.
Honestly, i don't know if i'd want Harry back in this week. Give him an extra week just for $hits and giggles. Kemp+McGovern worked well together - 9 goals between them is about as good as you could hope for.
My changes for this week.... Wilson <-> Florent.....simply need better disposal F. Young <-> Byrne.....one needs a rest, one needs a gig. HOK <-> L.Young....Young is not the future, let HOK run around with TDK all day and learn something. Evans <-> Saad.....Frankie wasn't bad, but i'd like to inject a bit more run and chaos. Potential NWM matchup. O. Hollands <-> Cottrell.....one is fitter than the other. Cerra <-> Hewett....i think Cerra was cramping late (or a soft tissue injury) Hewett runs out the games better and has done his time.
Overall, that should give us more run and better disposal, despite being 'like for like' in a lot of ways.
If we are a bit cleaner going inside 50 and in front of goal, then that loss (and this one?) could be turned into a win pretty easily.
Overall, i expect about 1 of them to actually go ahead.....but thats what i'd do.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: LP on April 26, 2026, 10:41:02 am
Honestly, i don't know if i'd want Harry back in this week. Give him an extra week just for $hits and giggles. Kemp+McGovern worked well together - 9 goals between them is about as good as you could hope for.
I pretty sure H will be back if fit, but it tells us something about our ball use and decision making. When we make H the default we are too predictable, we almost need to be without him for a few weeks to break the habit. Then bring him back as a genuine option alongside the others.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Professer E on April 26, 2026, 10:46:30 am
Maybe if blokes could get to his feet wed do better, not enough from the small blokes. But then again, out kicking into F50 isn't suburban standard.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: LP on April 26, 2026, 11:16:14 am
Maybe if blokes could get to his feet wed do better, not enough from the small blokes. But then again, out kicking into F50 isn't suburban standard.
I think part of the problem is that we are continually outnumbered at the fall because opposition seem to know where it is going before our own blokes know!
When you are at the ground and not ball watching it becomes obvious, we are always second to react, we've been that way for a long time. I think partly we could get away with it having twin KPFs, at least when they were fit and firing they knew were to lead. Now with H solo it's become a major weakness.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: RiverRat on April 26, 2026, 03:13:31 pm
Honestly, i don't know if i'd want Harry back in this week. Give him an extra week just for $hits and giggles. Kemp+McGovern worked well together - 9 goals between them is about as good as you could hope for.
I pretty sure H will be back if fit, but it tells us something about our ball use and decision making. When we make H the default we are too predictable, we almost need to be without him for a few weeks to break the habit. Then bring him back as a genuine option alongside the others.
Big Harry can't kick goals anyhow and can't hold a one-grab mark up forward so maybe he should play mainly in the ruck - except at centre ball-ups because he would be bound to get hurt. At least it would be something different.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: LP on April 26, 2026, 10:41:35 pm
Big Harry can't kick goals anyhow and can't hold a one-grab mark up forward so maybe he should play mainly in the ruck - except at centre ball-ups because he would be bound to get hurt. At least it would be something different.
Form versus ability is a tough thing to debate, when H was snapping around the corner goals from outside 50m a couple of years back he was the bees knees, now he's struggling.
We shouldn't forget what a confident and in form player is capable of, he's bigger and stronger now, he has lost no pace, and is hardly even perhaps never out marked. We need him with his head on straight and chock full of confidence, any club would.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 28, 2026, 05:28:48 pm
Pitto's a chance apparently, hope he gets up, he'll be frothing at the mouth to take on TDK.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on April 28, 2026, 05:43:26 pm
We need him. 12-0 clearances against us to start the match without him should be the only lesson we need to learn on that front. Hes more valuable than you think.
....and no its not just our mids making him look good either.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: shawny on April 28, 2026, 07:19:23 pm
Nothing surer that NWM will have a ball tearer and TDK will monster our ruckman. The former yet another example of what we dont have on our list, speed, poise, ball use.
Not surprising that 2 of the highest paid players in the game may cause us grief.
You think of that yourself did you Shawny? Gold star for you.
Also happens to be 2 players we have not a single matchup for on our list. But it'll be Vossys fault he doesn't have a unicorn ruck and an elite stoppage midfielder with pace to burn to play on these 2.
Honestly, i don't know if i'd want Harry back in this week. Give him an extra week just for $hits and giggles. Kemp+McGovern worked well together - 9 goals between them is about as good as you could hope for.
My changes for this week.... Wilson <-> Florent.....simply need better disposal F. Young <-> Byrne.....one needs a rest, one needs a gig. HOK <-> L.Young....Young is not the future, let HOK run around with TDK all day and learn something. Evans <-> Saad.....Frankie wasn't bad, but i'd like to inject a bit more run and chaos. Potential NWM matchup. O. Hollands <-> Cottrell.....one is fitter than the other. Cerra <-> Hewett....i think Cerra was cramping late (or a soft tissue injury) Hewett runs out the games better and has done his time.
Overall, that should give us more run and better disposal, despite being 'like for like' in a lot of ways.
If we are a bit cleaner going inside 50 and in front of goal, then that loss (and this one?) could be turned into a win pretty easily.
Overall, i expect about 1 of them to actually go ahead.....but thats what i'd do.
But i thought TDK was average and on crazy money - now he all of sudden he is a star and not able to be beaten and shouldn't be mentioned? What's your excuse why we allow Sinclair to play on his own every time we play them?
We have been crushed in every game except R1 as our Coaching department has NFI how to stop a run on how to clamp a player, no defensive modes - NADDA.
And this is not just this year - How many times has the same footballers done little then they play like superman against us. Check the list below of matchwinners that turned it on and killed in so far this year.
Agree there is a pattern or you can find another excuse. Look at their games lending into the game against us - they all hit top form against us... Why? Could it just possibly be that our coaching debt is below par on planning and tactics for opposition matchwinners and we have no systems to slow the play hence why the minute a player or team get a run on everyman and his dog knows it curtains.
Nah its cause we lost Jack, Charlie and TDK in the offseason and only got in old duds.
Of course it is.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 28, 2026, 08:47:56 pm
Hewett needs to come back into the team this week and I'd be dropping Williams after his woeful lack of effort vs Freo. George might be slow but I prefer a player who at least contests properly...
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: ratlice on April 29, 2026, 10:17:02 am
And his handballs & kicks usually hit the target!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Professer E on April 29, 2026, 10:22:02 am
Williams needs a rocket, slipping back to bad habits.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: shawny on April 29, 2026, 10:23:45 am
And he just happens to be our current B and F winner so the bloke can play.
Crazy to think he is wasted in the reserves while we are one win from 7 rounds.
I get we need to be faster but if that was the criteria why is Saad still in the 2nds, why didnt the Campo brothers get a game etc
Makes little sense as George is more than capable of playing as a high half forward. Not sure Cerra is any quicker then him either
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on April 29, 2026, 03:15:40 pm
Not surprising that 2 of the highest paid players in the game may cause us grief.
You think of that yourself did you Shawny? Gold star for you.
Also happens to be 2 players we have not a single matchup for on our list. But it'll be Vossys fault he doesn't have a unicorn ruck and an elite stoppage midfielder with pace to burn to play on these 2.
Honestly, i don't know if i'd want Harry back in this week. Give him an extra week just for $hits and giggles. Kemp+McGovern worked well together - 9 goals between them is about as good as you could hope for.
My changes for this week.... Wilson <-> Florent.....simply need better disposal F. Young <-> Byrne.....one needs a rest, one needs a gig. HOK <-> L.Young....Young is not the future, let HOK run around with TDK all day and learn something. Evans <-> Saad.....Frankie wasn't bad, but i'd like to inject a bit more run and chaos. Potential NWM matchup. O. Hollands <-> Cottrell.....one is fitter than the other. Cerra <-> Hewett....i think Cerra was cramping late (or a soft tissue injury) Hewett runs out the games better and has done his time.
Overall, that should give us more run and better disposal, despite being 'like for like' in a lot of ways.
If we are a bit cleaner going inside 50 and in front of goal, then that loss (and this one?) could be turned into a win pretty easily.
Overall, i expect about 1 of them to actually go ahead.....but thats what i'd do.
But i thought TDK was average and on crazy money - now he all of sudden he is a star and not able to be beaten and shouldn't be mentioned? What's your excuse why we allow Sinclair to play on his own every time we play them?
We have been crushed in every game except R1 as our Coaching department has NFI how to stop a run on how to clamp a player, no defensive modes - NADDA.
And this is not just this year - How many times has the same footballers done little then they play like superman against us. Check the list below of matchwinners that turned it on and killed in so far this year.
Agree there is a pattern or you can find another excuse. Look at their games lending into the game against us - they all hit top form against us... Why? Could it just possibly be that our coaching debt is below par on planning and tactics for opposition matchwinners and we have no systems to slow the play hence why the minute a player or team get a run on everyman and his dog knows it curtains.
Nah its cause we lost Jack, Charlie and TDK in the offseason and only got in old duds.
Of course it is.
You get bored and make up the movie in your head?
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But i thought TDK was average and on crazy money - now he all of sudden he is a star and not able to be beaten and shouldn't be mentioned?
Huh? TDK is overrated and on crazy money, doesn't mean he can't teach our 8th gamer a few things....or are you suggest HOK is the equal of TDK???
Again, we got beaten by someone....some of the best players in the game. Out of curiosity, i had a quick look for top 50 players for 2026 prediction, clicked on the first link that popped up. https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/47893628/afl-top-50-best-afl-players-season-2026-daicos-bontempelli-heeney-neale-darcy All of the players you mentioned were in the top 50, including Daicos at #2. So yes, we got beaten by good players and we struggled to stop them......just like every other team struggles to stop them, because they are elite. Perhaps we don't have the players to stop them. Could that be a list management issue??
Incidently of the players that left Curnow - #14 The blokes we got in, didn't crack the top 50. So yeah, our list got worst.
Leigh Matthews couldn't stop Daicos with our list. Not sure why you think Voss can.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on April 29, 2026, 03:23:12 pm
Some say we have a rubbish list, some say we have a rubbish coach, some say we have both.
The fact remains we are in round 8 this week, and are currently 3rd on the ladder for minutes led in matches.
Not bad for a bunch of talentless hacks. Too bad the results havent gone the way we would have liked. Perhaps with some better coaching, some more luck, or some more hutzpah, we wouldnt even need better players.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on April 29, 2026, 03:25:53 pm
Some say we have a rubbish list, some say we have a rubbish coach, some say we have both.
The fact remains we are in round 8 this week, and are currently 3rd on the ladder for minutes led in matches.
Not bad for a bunch of talentless hacks. Too paid the results havent gone the way we would have liked. Perhaps with some better coaching, some more luck, or some more hutzpah, we wouldnt even need better players.
Are we still 3rd though? We didn't lead a minute of our game against freo, so i imagine we dropped a fair way.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on April 29, 2026, 03:31:35 pm
Some say we have a rubbish list, some say we have a rubbish coach, some say we have both.
The fact remains we are in round 8 this week, and are currently 3rd on the ladder for minutes led in matches.
Not bad for a bunch of talentless hacks. Too paid the results havent gone the way we would have liked. Perhaps with some better coaching, some more luck, or some more hutzpah, we wouldnt even need better players.
Are we still 3rd though? We didn't lead a minute of our game against freo, so i imagine we dropped a fair way.
When I last saw it, we were 3rd behind Sydney and Freo. Given it was a total, and not a percentage, we would still have a fair lead on the next teams.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on April 29, 2026, 03:51:34 pm
Given the results from the weekend and how the games were played, only Hawthorn, Melbourne and Brisbane would have done enough to leap frog us in one week.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Baggers on April 29, 2026, 03:54:53 pm
Some say we have a rubbish list, some say we have a rubbish coach, some say we have both.
The fact remains we are in round 8 this week, and are currently 3rd on the ladder for minutes led in matches.
Not bad for a bunch of talentless hacks. Too paid the results havent gone the way we would have liked. Perhaps with some better coaching, some more luck, or some more hutzpah, we wouldnt even need better players.
By the way, 3 Leos, I don't think we have a rubbish list and I don't think we have a rubbish coach. It's lonesome out here ;D
Our list does need midfield speed, and our coach does need to continue his changed approach to game plan.
Now the MC... that may well be rubbish!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: PaulP on April 29, 2026, 04:00:20 pm
Being 3rd for minutes led in matches was from an article I read on the 22nd April. We might not be 3rd now, but the Freo game was an aberration in this respect.
In terms of trying to understand our current predicament, simply looking at wins and losses can create a false impression, either of proximity or of distance.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: LP on April 29, 2026, 04:32:01 pm
I know I've gone on and on about this, but I think our biggest problem is our inability to have 10+ goal wins, they just never happen regardless of how much we dominate an opponent. We can dominate for 3-qtrs and lose, and when we win we can dominate for 4-qtrs and limp over the line.
The big wins are the thing missing from our equation, too many close results win or lose are exhausting, a big win is like a week off!
We are like a chippy trying to drive a nail to the perfect depth with one swing of the hammer, it can happen but it's so rare virtually 100% of attempts are fails!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 29, 2026, 04:50:45 pm
I know I've gone on and on about this, but I think our biggest problem is our inability to have 10+ goal wins, they just never happen regardless of how much we dominate an opponent. We can dominate for 3-qtrs and lose, and when we win we can dominate for 4-qtrs and limp over the line.
The big wins are the thing missing from our equation, too many close results win or lose are exhausting, a big win is like a week off!
We are like a chippy trying to drive a nail to the perfect depth with one swing of the hammer, it can happen but it's so rare virtually 100% of attempts are fails!
Big wins? FMD I take A win of any margin right now.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on April 29, 2026, 04:54:48 pm
I know I've gone on and on about this, but I think our biggest problem is our inability to have 10+ goal wins, they just never happen regardless of how much we dominate an opponent. We can dominate for 3-qtrs and lose, and when we win we can dominate for 4-qtrs and limp over the line.
The big wins are the thing missing from our equation, too many close results win or lose are exhausting, a big win is like a week off!
We are like a chippy trying to drive a nail to the perfect depth with one swing of the hammer, it can happen but it's so rare virtually 100% of attempts are fails!
Get a better chippy. ;)
I've said it before, but we don't have the cattle.
You can disagree, some will, but what we are seeing most weeks is a lot of changes. This means we don't have a settled side. A settled side struggles to find continuity and trust in eachother which can result in mistakes/lapses, which is what we are seeing.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: shawny on April 29, 2026, 06:35:16 pm
But i thought TDK was average and on crazy money - now he all of sudden he is a star and not able to be beaten and shouldn't be mentioned? What's your excuse why we allow Sinclair to play on his own every time we play them?
We have been crushed in every game except R1 as our Coaching department has NFI how to stop a run on how to clamp a player, no defensive modes - NADDA.
And this is not just this year - How many times has the same footballers done little then they play like superman against us. Check the list below of matchwinners that turned it on and killed in so far this year.
Agree there is a pattern or you can find another excuse. Look at their games lending into the game against us - they all hit top form against us... Why? Could it just possibly be that our coaching debt is below par on planning and tactics for opposition matchwinners and we have no systems to slow the play hence why the minute a player or team get a run on everyman and his dog knows it curtains.
Nah its cause we lost Jack, Charlie and TDK in the offseason and only got in old duds.
Of course it is.
You get bored and make up the movie in your head?
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But i thought TDK was average and on crazy money - now he all of sudden he is a star and not able to be beaten and shouldn't be mentioned?
Huh? TDK is overrated and on crazy money, doesn't mean he can't teach our 8th gamer a few things....or are you suggest HOK is the equal of TDK???
Again, we got beaten by someone....some of the best players in the game. Out of curiosity, i had a quick look for top 50 players for 2026 prediction, clicked on the first link that popped up. https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/47893628/afl-top-50-best-afl-players-season-2026-daicos-bontempelli-heeney-neale-darcy All of the players you mentioned were in the top 50, including Daicos at #2. So yes, we got beaten by good players and we struggled to stop them......just like every other team struggles to stop them, because they are elite. Perhaps we don't have the players to stop them. Could that be a list management issue??
Incidently of the players that left Curnow - #14 The blokes we got in, didn't crack the top 50. So yeah, our list got worst.
Leigh Matthews couldn't stop Daicos with our list. Not sure why you think Voss can.
Again more excuses after excuses after excuses.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on April 29, 2026, 07:02:30 pm
Huh? TDK is overrated and on crazy money, doesn't mean he can't teach our 8th gamer a few things....or are you suggest HOK is the equal of TDK???
Again, we got beaten by someone....some of the best players in the game. Out of curiosity, i had a quick look for top 50 players for 2026 prediction, clicked on the first link that popped up. https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/47893628/afl-top-50-best-afl-players-season-2026-daicos-bontempelli-heeney-neale-darcy All of the players you mentioned were in the top 50, including Daicos at #2. So yes, we got beaten by good players and we struggled to stop them......just like every other team struggles to stop them, because they are elite. Perhaps we don't have the players to stop them. Could that be a list management issue??
Incidently of the players that left Curnow - #14 The blokes we got in, didn't crack the top 50. So yeah, our list got worst.
Leigh Matthews couldn't stop Daicos with our list. Not sure why you think Voss can.
Again more excuses after excuses after excuses.
With debating skills like yours, i don't know why i bother.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: rocky on April 29, 2026, 08:13:21 pm
Anyway, back to the topic at hand. How I would love to see some creative and ballsy changes this week. However, 1. If Pitto comes in, Reidy will make way for him. No doubt 2. If Harry comes in, I'd be surprised if Moir didn't get dropped. That's probably it. That's the way we roll, unfortunately. I'd also do the following Young Byrne needs a spell. Should've happened last week, but they probably didn't want to drop him after the missed goal v the pies. Don't need the hysteria from the media around it. They'll probably bring in Ollie Hollands for him. Shame as Flynn Young is the obvious replacement. Maybe they'll drop Frankie instead for Flynn Young, which I'd hate because Frankie is one of the few who has a football brain and can kick to advantage, Do we have anyone to rid us of Lewis Young? I'd take anyone. Give Cerra a spell and straight swap him for George. No brainer Reward a guy like Billy Wilson who at least has pace, for someone like Cowan. Who has a good game every 4 weeks at this stage I thought Williams was one of our better players so not sure why all the hate? Anyway, we'll end up doing 1 & 2 above I guess and that will be the end of it. Roll on, roll on
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 29, 2026, 08:58:29 pm
Anyway, back to the topic at hand. How I would love to see some creative and ballsy changes this week. However, 1. If Pitto comes in, Reidy will make way for him. No doubt 2. If Harry comes in, I'd be surprised if Moir didn't get dropped. That's probably it. That's the way we roll, unfortunately. I'd also do the following Young Byrne needs a spell. Should've happened last week, but they probably didn't want to drop him after the missed goal v the pies. Don't need the hysteria from the media around it. They'll probably bring in Ollie Hollands for him. Shame as Flynn Young is the obvious replacement. Maybe they'll drop Frankie instead for Flynn Young, which I'd hate because Frankie is one of the few who has a football brain and can kick to advantage, Do we have anyone to rid us of Lewis Young? I'd take anyone. Give Cerra a spell and straight swap him for George. No brainer Reward a guy like Billy Wilson who at least has pace, for someone like Cowan. Who has a good game every 4 weeks at this stage I thought Williams was one of our better players so not sure why all the hate? Anyway, we'll end up doing 1 & 2 above I guess and that will be the end of it. Roll on, roll on
Williams bailed out and dropped his head in a simple marking contest thinking he was going to get contact from behind, turning the ball over then did the same thing again but tried to disguise it by feigning he was pushed and some of ground ball contests were equally soft and half hearted. It's not the first time either in fact it's a regular occurrence if you watch him closely over what has been a disappointing career with us imho. Voss is meant to be big on standards but seems to miss Zac when it comes to inconsistent contesting. Sure he kicks the ball a bit better than most and can kick a goal but down back or in the middle he is a liability and I wouldnt be offering him another contract because he is unreliable and can't be trusted.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on April 30, 2026, 06:25:51 pm
INS: Pitto Saad McKay O. Hollands
OUTS: Young Byrne Moir Lord
Still no Hewett, F. young
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: rocky on April 30, 2026, 06:28:05 pm
He probably would've been my 3rd runnings HBF' chosen based on output from the last game.
I reckon Saad is picked to do a job on Nas
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Lods on April 30, 2026, 06:35:11 pm
Strange selections. Both Wilson and Charleson were better than Saad in the VFL...and offer youth. But Saad has the experience. Not sure whether we're going for the win...or 'not' going for the win. ::)
You would think if Lord goes out, Hewett would come in.
Flynn Young may be left for the second week in a row without a game at either level.
VFL plays early. It will be interesting to see which of our emergencies line up in that game.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: LP on April 30, 2026, 06:53:33 pm
I think the selections are about match ups not necessarily form, I don't think Wilson has the leg speed to do the role Saad might be asked to do.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Professer E on April 30, 2026, 07:21:46 pm
Saad selection is rubbish. No form in VFL and has lost a yard in pace, opponents know to push him wide and force a dump kick. The sniffers small forwards will be licking their lips.
And I feel you EB, Williams sh...himself in marking contests and it has cost us games. Plays across half forward with spells on ball or doesn't play. His on ball spells have been effective at times. Cerra going at half rat power still getting games...but lets drop Lord and Hewitt who give 100%. This smacks of quiet quitting.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Lods on April 30, 2026, 07:30:49 pm
I think the selections are about match ups not necessarily form, I don't think Wilson has the leg speed to do the role Saad might be asked to do.
Saad looked slower than Wilson last week. I think Saad's a bit below his top speed at the moment. The only thing I can think of is a specific run with task...but I'm not sure that defensive role is his forte
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Professer E on April 30, 2026, 07:31:46 pm
Wilson has one AFL attribute and that's straight line pace
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: laj on April 30, 2026, 07:45:18 pm
Selection from this club always worry me.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: laj on April 30, 2026, 07:49:23 pm
Wilson has one AFL attribute and that's straight line pace
Yes. Plus we are a side that lacks pace, Wilson gets 39 touches and he's quick. Is he in, nup. We are 4pts away from being 0-7, give some blokes a go. We have then slowed ourselves up though playing 2 rucks. Rather the extra runner. Do what we did last year. Pitto ruck with relief from Harry. Harry is a much better player when he gets a run around the ground getting his hands on it.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Professer E on April 30, 2026, 08:18:54 pm
100%....and try some new faces instead of the tried and failed....some new faces in the centre square might help too.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 30, 2026, 08:19:35 pm
I think the selections are about match ups not necessarily form, I don't think Wilson has the leg speed to do the role Saad might be asked to do.
Saad looked slower than Wilson last week. I think Saad's a bit below his top speed at the moment. The only thing I can think of is a specific run with task...but I'm not sure that defensive role is his forte
Agree, he has become loose in his later years and I don't think he has the endurance for Nas or Sinclair, maybe Higgins? Your man Billy is very unlucky and like Flynn Young and George Hewett their non selection is a mystery. Rumours continue that there is some problem with Hewett..
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: laj on April 30, 2026, 08:24:50 pm
Saad looked slower than Wilson last week. I think Saad's a bit below his top speed at the moment. The only thing I can think of is a specific run with task...but I'm not sure that defensive role is his forte
Agree, he has become loose in his later years and I don't think he has the endurance for Nas or Sinclair, maybe Higgins? Your man Billy is very unlucky and like Flynn Young and George Hewett their non selection is a mystery. Rumours continue that there is some problem with Hewett..
There's going to be a big problem with Hewett if we keep not selecting him. Making the assumption that Voss won't see out the season it'll be interesting what happens after that with Hewett.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 30, 2026, 09:39:52 pm
Agree, he has become loose in his later years and I don't think he has the endurance for Nas or Sinclair, maybe Higgins? Your man Billy is very unlucky and like Flynn Young and George Hewett their non selection is a mystery. Rumours continue that there is some problem with Hewett..
There's going to be a big problem with Hewett if we keep not selecting him. Making the assumption that Voss won't see out the season it'll be interesting what happens after that with Hewett.
Mitch Clearly has him up for trade at seasons end with only one year left on his contract..
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: crashlander on April 30, 2026, 09:40:24 pm
I must admit that I find our match committee's decisions mystifying at times. I just don't see the reasons for (many) decisions. I hope they more than I do, but I also lack confidence based on their previous selections.
Our line-up: B: 35 Harry Dean 23 Jacob Weitering 42 Adam Saad HB: 14 Oliver Florent 11 Mitch McGovern 24 Nic Newman C: 4 Oliver Hollands 9 Patrick Cripps 32 Matthew Carroll HF: 6 Zac Williams 7 Jagga Smith 44 Francis Evans F: 12 Ben Ainsworth 17 Brodie Kemp 10 Harry McKay R: 27 Marc Pittonet 5 Adam Cerra 18 Sam Walsh Int: 26 Nick Haynes 2 Lachlan Cowan 46 Matthew Cottrell 19 Will Hayward 25 Liam Reidy
EM: 45 Flynn Young 36 Cooper Lord 33 Lewis Young
[1] I don't mind bringing Saad in, but he has only played one good game (against Tassie). Both Wilson and Charleson have the pace and are in form. Why not one of them?
[2] Mitch McGovern at CHB? He has been our most effective forward.
[3] I can understand that Lewis Young has his issues, but have we enough players to make a tall defensive matchup? I hope so.
[4] I still don't see anyone who can sit on Wanganeen-Milera or Sinclair. Is that why we've brought Saad in? We really need to squash these two guys if we're going to win.
[5] Adam Cerra? I would have brought in George Hewett. George appears back in form. Cez hasn't looked like it yet.
[6] I sort of understand why we kept Reidy in, especially with Pitto being questionable. I just don't see him being able to do the job. But we don't have many options in this regard. We can't use someone like Leek Aleer, because we don't have anyone with that sort of athleticism. We really need to recruit some guys with that sort of athleticism.
[7] I like Cowan, but he is another who has really struggled to find form this year. He is dropping his marks and not being as effective as he can be. I want to see him tackling hard, flying for his marks and taking out his opponent, He is capable of it.
[8] I didn't think Cottrell was ready last week. I do hope he is better this week. His disposal and run are really useful when he is on, but he seems to take a long time to get into form after an injury.
[9] I hope Frankie is better this week. I love the way he goes about it, but he has definitely been off so far.
[10] Our season is gone, whether we're willing to admit it or not. I would be doing some experimentation. Wilson was an obvious one. The only problem I have is that our list is not what it needs to be. We lost one young key defender to injury and 3 other taller players to other clubs. But we brought in one. We lost the ruckman who was best suited to the new rules and replaced him with one who isn't. We needed pace and yet ...
I know I don't know everything that is going on at the club, but I do wonder what our selectors are thinking. I know it is different to what I do.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: DJC on April 30, 2026, 09:44:36 pm
I must have watched a different VFL game; Saad was very good.
Billy Wilson was good too, as was Charleson but I think we’re going with far too many inexperienced players.
I would have had at least one of Georgie and Acres in the squad.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on April 30, 2026, 09:51:44 pm
There's going to be a big problem with Hewett if we keep not selecting him. Making the assumption that Voss won't see out the season it'll be interesting what happens after that with Hewett.
Mitch Clearly has him up for trade at seasons end with only one year left on his contract..
why wouldnt you want to leave?
Ordinary team, poor culture. One star left last year, another retired, and another has fallen well off his brownlow best.
You'll have a new coach next year and we'll rebuild too. It aint going to get good quickly.
A lot of voss ire, but maybe hes playing the guys that actually want to be here first.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 30, 2026, 09:52:02 pm
Stocker and Jack are slow too...seems to be a pattern...I wonder what they have in common?
Ex-Carlton slugs aside, they are quick. I fear an almighty rogering. For the most part of the last 10-15 years, we have been their bitches and I feel it wont change this week.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: MickyO on April 30, 2026, 10:28:46 pm
What are the rumours re Hewitt?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 30, 2026, 10:36:05 pm
Stocker and Jack are slow too...seems to be a pattern...I wonder what they have in common?
Ex-Carlton slugs aside, they are quick. I fear an almighty rogering.
They are coached by Ross Lyon who has had an interesting week. I think we are a chance and dont rate the Saints at all. Law of averages says we have to win a game soon and this looks like our best chance IMHO as the Saints are a flaky team coached by a weirdo. Tip.. Harry will kick a bag on Dougall Howard who is a spud of the highest quality. Pittonet to lay the smackdown on TDK, Cripps to have a big game too with no Steele to haunt him. Blues by 17 points....and the Lyon presser to be sarcastic comedy gold.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Professer E on April 30, 2026, 11:20:19 pm
I hope you're right EB, the best I reckon we can hope for is Pitto sticking his knee into TdKs ribs
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 30, 2026, 11:37:18 pm
I hope you're right EB, the best I reckon we can hope for is Pitto sticking his knee into TdKs ribs
Physicality is the key Prof, show them who is boss and I'd be looking after Nas the same way as TDK and making them earn every kick.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 01, 2026, 07:25:51 am
I like how the club is giving us the incentive to watch more VFL by spreading the talent 'evenly' through both the senior side and the VFL side. ;) ::)
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: DJC on May 01, 2026, 07:39:58 am
I like how the club is giving us the incentive to watch more VFL by spreading the talent 'evenly' through both the senior side and the VFL side. ;) ::)
At least one team is winning 🙄
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: DJC on May 01, 2026, 07:43:47 am
It’s behind a paywall but there’s an article in the Hun pointing out that TDK is well down on 2025 form and is ranked 25th or thereabouts as a ruckman. That’s a way below Marshall.
Extra inspiration for Tom on Saturday?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 01, 2026, 07:57:53 am
It’s behind a paywall but there’s an article in the Hun pointing out that TDK is well down on 2025 form and is ranked 25th or thereabouts as a ruckman. That’s a way below Marshall.
Extra inspiration for Tom on Saturday?
It'll be interesting... I'm not sure he'll have the same incentive to 'lift' as someone who felt the club had treated him badly...someone with a point to prove. His team-mates would know that given the same opportunity they would have jumped at the offer.
Will there be a different response from players towards Jack? Whatever you may think about his decision to leave he's always a 100% player on field. His matchup will be interesting.
It probably goes without saying that there will be a bit of crowd involvement. How will that affect the players.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on May 01, 2026, 08:59:16 am
They are all mates. TDK took the money and ran like anyone would have.
JSOS as much as I call him Judas, and it started with the whole Caminitti thing before he walked, is mates with most of our mob, and will play a decent game, and they will all get on.
Face it, we care a lot more than the players do, which is part of the issue.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 01, 2026, 09:33:00 am
They are all mates. TDK took the money and ran like anyone would have.
JSOS as much as I call him Judas, and it started with the whole Caminitti thing before he walked, is mates with most of our mob, and will play a decent game, and they will all get on.
Face it, we care a lot more than the players do, which is part of the issue.
I think that will be the case with DeKoning. I'm not sure it's the same with Silvagni. It'll be interesting to see the interaction with our players both during and after the game.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 01, 2026, 09:52:50 am
The Centre Half Back (saints) v Centre Half Forward (Carlton) battle could have a big bearing on this game. ;D A real battle of the giants. Hopefully Jaggas extra height is enough to win out over Hill and he can kick a bag.
(I reckon they have a little bet going where they compile the team sheets, for most outrageous positional pick of the week) ;D ;D
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: madbluboy on May 01, 2026, 10:08:52 am
Strongest side we have fielded all year.
Carlton by 8 points.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: DJC on May 01, 2026, 11:38:41 am
They are all mates. TDK took the money and ran like anyone would have.
JSOS as much as I call him Judas, and it started with the whole Caminitti thing before he walked, is mates with most of our mob, and will play a decent game, and they will all get on.
Face it, we care a lot more than the players do, which is part of the issue.
Yes Thry, AFL footballers are a lot less tribal than supporters and mateships formed over several years will endure when players follow the money.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 01, 2026, 01:19:55 pm
On conversations with George Hewett: "He’d be somewhat disappointed. In all these conversations, not just George, we’ve had a number of players that have been in form and they’re the conversations you want as a coach. One of the big things that we’ve tried to get after is the durability of our group: these are great conversations right now, because we’re having plenty of them.
“It’s challenging the guys ahead of them in those positions, but it’s also putting them in a place to have some really good form. Guys like George, he’s really determined to get back in the AFL team and some younger players that are stating a really strong case. We’ve got Billy Wilson that’s played really good footy for a month now, ‘Saady’ is back in the team who’s been in really good form, Boyd, Flynn Young is one that’s been the most consistent.
“They keep challenging guys in those positions, and they’re the conversations we want to continue to have... The big thing for us is we always acknowledge the individual. I’ve got 45 players that want to play AFL, that doesn’t fit into the team.”
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 01, 2026, 01:58:00 pm
How they came to that call based on output beggars belief
Cerra has a contract till the end of 2030, Hewett has another 12 months, I'm thinking that might have something to do with the clubs thinking, that's presuming Mitch Cleary has his information correct on Hewett..
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on May 01, 2026, 02:05:10 pm
How they came to that call based on output beggars belief
Cerra has a contract till the end of 2030, Hewett has another 12 months, I'm thinking that might have something to do with the clubs thinking, that's presuming Mitch Cleary has his information correct on Hewett..
On the basis of the last 12 to 24 months, its clear as the day is long, that there are a bunch of players who no longer wanted to be here, who have moved on. Perhaps George is just one more. Mcgovern would have gone too if someone actually wanted him. They didnt, so he stayed.
Charlie, TDK and JSOS all walking and we have gone a tad younger to build around the Walsh age group. A decent idea strategically but maybe not a popular one.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 01, 2026, 03:20:00 pm
Cerra has a contract till the end of 2030, Hewett has another 12 months, I'm thinking that might have something to do with the clubs thinking, that's presuming Mitch Cleary has his information correct on Hewett..
On the basis of the last 12 to 24 months, its clear as the day is long, that there are a bunch of players who no longer wanted to be here, who have moved on. Perhaps George is just one more. Mcgovern would have gone too if someone actually wanted him. They didnt, so he stayed.
Charlie, TDK and JSOS all walking and we have gone a tad younger to build around the Walsh age group. A decent idea strategically but maybe not a popular one.
If we still have players that aren't 100% on board we need to move them on...no matter how good, and especially if they are the older/leader group. We don't know if that's the issue with Hewett...I'd be surprised given his 2025 season where he gave it everything. I'd suspect it comes back to the changes in the game and us not being able to carry too many of a similar style of midfielder. It's probably why Lord is out of the side too.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Adelaideblue on May 01, 2026, 04:33:51 pm
Cooper Lord last week against Fremantle , 18 disposals and 6 tackles. time on ground 65%. Only second game back after illness. Unlucky to be dropped.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Baggers on May 01, 2026, 05:36:45 pm
Cooper Lord last week against Fremantle , 18 disposals and 6 tackles. time on ground 65%. Only second game back after illness. Unlucky to be dropped.
Perplexing isn't it... Cotters' stats were far from impressive yet keeps his place? Saad has been okay but far from impressive in the Magoos, yet gets a gig. I could go on :(
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 01, 2026, 06:24:02 pm
Ex-Carlton slugs aside, they are quick. I fear an almighty rogering.
They are coached by Ross Lyon who has had an interesting week. I think we are a chance and dont rate the Saints at all. Law of averages says we have to win a game soon and this looks like our best chance IMHO as the Saints are a flaky team coached by a weirdo. Tip.. Harry will kick a bag on Dougall Howard who is a spud of the highest quality. Pittonet to lay the smackdown on TDK, Cripps to have a big game too with no Steele to haunt him. Blues by 17 points....and the Lyon presser to be sarcastic comedy gold.
They will pants us EB.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 01, 2026, 06:25:18 pm
They are coached by Ross Lyon who has had an interesting week. I think we are a chance and dont rate the Saints at all. Law of averages says we have to win a game soon and this looks like our best chance IMHO as the Saints are a flaky team coached by a weirdo. Tip.. Harry will kick a bag on Dougall Howard who is a spud of the highest quality. Pittonet to lay the smackdown on TDK, Cripps to have a big game too with no Steele to haunt him. Blues by 17 points....and the Lyon presser to be sarcastic comedy gold.
They will pants us EB.
Surely not GTC, they are not very good despite all their player spending. I see this as one of our more winnable games..
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 01, 2026, 10:54:03 pm
Surely not GTC, they are not very good despite all their player spending. I see this as one of our more winnable games..
Absolutely. Can and should.
Vossy has informed us that we've been improving, especially in the past month against very good opposition. Lost by a kick against Rottingwood and got real close to a ladder leader... Now we're up against a mob lower down the ladder and closer to us.
Plus, we now see that we're 3rd for time in front thus far in season 2026, the Aints are 6th. It may well come down to Ross v Voss in the coaching box.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 02, 2026, 07:41:14 am
Just have a bit of a feeling this could be that 'season defining' game.
While we can argue about who should have got a game, it probably represents our most experienced side of the year. It's a side set up to win rather than to see how developing players are progressing (that may come next week depending on results ;) :D
A win could kick start the season, a similar result to other of our games will continue to raise questions, a bad loss and we have a good idea what next week will look like.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: madbluboy on May 02, 2026, 07:49:37 am
The media have been waiting a couple of weeks for us to get smashed, the articles have already been written, the AFL360 doomsday videos are ready to go.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 02, 2026, 08:16:15 am
The media have been waiting a couple of weeks for us to get smashed, the articles have already been written, the AFL360 doomsday videos are ready to go.
I reckon you're probably spot on. And it's the one thing we don't want to see...because it will be 'presented' as the players having reached the end and capitulated, which will add further to the pressure on a number of our people, especially the coach.
More than anything we need a win.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Professer E on May 02, 2026, 08:27:47 am
Yep MBB, the only thing that turned the heat down on us was Ross opening his trap, the ####$$ up draft changes and a draw, we get flogged tonight and all those pre-written doomsday articles will get published. If NAS gets 40 and is a matchwinner it will get very, very ugly on this site.
The Voss boosters will say we don't have a player on the list capable of tagging him, the Voss haters will say where's the coaching strategy and planning to deal with the issue? Ultimately both are right....and wrong. And so we will go on and on and on arguing about something unanswerable.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 02, 2026, 09:38:01 am
Win, lose or draw I don't see this game as season defining or as a reason to sack Voss the next day or give him a 5 year contract either. This is the clubs dignity and pride on the line facing players who walked out for the money, greener pastures, to play for a club led by that smug clown Bassett who has campaigned against our rights to fairly select father/son players, stolen our players and we need to rally and kick their arse big-time..plus all my inlaws are Saints supporters and will be unbearable.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Professer E on May 02, 2026, 10:08:59 am
Yep, it's all about respect now EB, but the footy gods HATE us.
Bassett is like so many club presidents - a self absorbed prat who would knife any other club for the most miniscule perceived advantage. The smug arrogance 'nyah nyah nyah we pinched your players ha ha ha' is galling but when it all blows up in two years time the unholy sh1tstorm that is going to land at sh1tkilda will be biblical....
Toss Lyon has made his first (publically acknowledge d) faux pas, just like at Freo there are issues. The bloke clearly has a limited amount of credits at every club and he's burning them real fast.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: shawny on May 02, 2026, 11:05:17 am
I don't feel much angst for players once they leave or we send packing but Jack and Charlie are in their own separate basket for me- just cant stand to see either one succeed which bad I know as both at times were a big presence for many years.
Whereby TDK, Owies, Dow, Stocker, Kennedy, Durdin and (Hewitt when he goes) I have no issues and part of me actually wants them to succeed.
See what decades of losing does !
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: bratblue on May 02, 2026, 11:28:47 am
Kennedy gets best clubman then is gone, Hewitt wins the B&F then doesn't get a game after North. Voss said he will change, yeah right. Keep Voss my arse.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 02, 2026, 12:09:32 pm
Win, lose or draw I don't see this game as season defining or as a reason to sack Voss the next day or give him a 5 year contract either. This is the clubs dignity and pride on the line facing players who walked out for the money, greener pastures, to play for a club led by that smug clown Bassett who has campaigned against our rights to fairly select father/son players, stolen our players and we need to rally and kick their arse big-time..plus all my inlaws are Saints supporters and will be unbearable.
Dont forget coached by a misogynistic, male chauvinist pig. I could have easily added racist but he apologised and the players affected accepted it. Nonetheless a bigger buffoon that is so full of himself you will not find.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on May 02, 2026, 12:21:17 pm
Win, lose or draw I don't see this game as season defining or as a reason to sack Voss the next day or give him a 5 year contract either. This is the clubs dignity and pride on the line facing players who walked out for the money, greener pastures, to play for a club led by that smug clown Bassett who has campaigned against our rights to fairly select father/son players, stolen our players and we need to rally and kick their arse big-time..plus all my inlaws are Saints supporters and will be unbearable.
sadly our mob just never respond.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 02, 2026, 02:02:09 pm
Win, lose or draw I don't see this game as season defining or as a reason to sack Voss the next day or give him a 5 year contract either. This is the clubs dignity and pride on the line facing players who walked out for the money, greener pastures, to play for a club led by that smug clown Bassett who has campaigned against our rights to fairly select father/son players, stolen our players and we need to rally and kick their arse big-time..plus all my inlaws are Saints supporters and will be unbearable.
Dont forget coached by a misogynistic, male chauvinist pig. I could have easily added racist but he apologised and the players affected accepted it. Nonetheless a bigger buffoon that is so full of himself you will not find.
For some reason Bassett annoys me more GTC, Lyon at least provides some cringe entertainment and keeps the Saints in the news for all the wrong reasons. Their CEO though has this idea he can influence the AFL decision makers and recreate the Saints image into that of some powerful competition leading club that can stand tall with the big power clubs and be an equal. He is part of the reason we will be paying more for Cody Walker, Koutas boy etc etc and I want nothing more than to see Stkilda back down the bottom wallowing in debt and taking their rightful place as one of the whipping boy clubs of the comp whose sole aim each season is to try and qualify/plead for an assistance package year in year out to keep afloat. Losing to them is not an option and I expect the club to fire up and send these pretenders back into obscurity where they belong and then watch the Lyon press conference with pure enjoyment....
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 02, 2026, 02:07:13 pm
Win, lose or draw I don't see this game as season defining or as a reason to sack Voss the next day or give him a 5 year contract either. This is the clubs dignity and pride on the line facing players who walked out for the money, greener pastures, to play for a club led by that smug clown Bassett who has campaigned against our rights to fairly select father/son players, stolen our players and we need to rally and kick their arse big-time..plus all my inlaws are Saints supporters and will be unbearable.
sadly our mob just never respond.
We are due and as I said this is bigger than individuals/coaches etc and the club needs to stand tall and deliver for the dignity of the club and prove we still have a pulse.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 02, 2026, 02:40:52 pm
Dont forget coached by a misogynistic, male chauvinist pig. I could have easily added racist but he apologised and the players affected accepted it. Nonetheless a bigger buffoon that is so full of himself you will not find.
For some reason Bassett annoys me more GTC, Lyon at least provides some cringe entertainment and keeps the Saints in the news for all the wrong reasons. Their CEO though has this idea he can influence the AFL decision makers and recreate the Saints image into that of some powerful competition leading club that can stand tall with the big power clubs and be an equal. He is part of the reason we will be paying more for Cody Walker, Koutas boy etc etc and I want nothing more than to see Stkilda back down the bottom wallowing in debt and taking their rightful place as one of the whipping boy clubs of the comp whose sole aim each season is to try and qualify/plead for an assistance package year in year out to keep afloat. Losing to them is not an option and I expect the club to fire up and send these pretenders back into obscurity where they belong and then watch the Lyon press conference with pure enjoyment....
My mate knows Bassett and reckons he is both a dumb so and so and an a-hole with a capital A.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: crashlander on May 02, 2026, 03:18:23 pm
For some reason Bassett annoys me more GTC, Lyon at least provides some cringe entertainment and keeps the Saints in the news for all the wrong reasons. Their CEO though has this idea he can influence the AFL decision makers and recreate the Saints image into that of some powerful competition leading club that can stand tall with the big power clubs and be an equal. He is part of the reason we will be paying more for Cody Walker, Koutas boy etc etc and I want nothing more than to see Stkilda back down the bottom wallowing in debt and taking their rightful place as one of the whipping boy clubs of the comp whose sole aim each season is to try and qualify/plead for an assistance package year in year out to keep afloat. Losing to them is not an option and I expect the club to fire up and send these pretenders back into obscurity where they belong and then watch the Lyon press conference with pure enjoyment....
My mate knows Bassett and reckons he is both a dumb so and so and an a-hole with a capital A.
Somehow that makes sense. He opens his mouth and he looks both ignorant and stupid, a poor combination. I'm glad I don't know him.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 02, 2026, 04:46:58 pm
Somehow that makes sense. He opens his mouth and he looks both ignorant and stupid, a poor combination. I'm glad I don't know him.
He completes a great trio with Ross and SOS. I'm surprised Bolts and Boris are there TBH.
I reckon Enright knows its all going to go to hell in a handbasket sooner than later and there will be a senior coaching job available and he can start afresh with some Geelong methodology. I think Ross and SOS are a bit of a joint package and will be in the doorway of departure together..
Title: Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 02, 2026, 06:53:11 pm
Higgins and Wilson out for the Saints should help us...