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Title: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: crashlander on May 03, 2026, 09:41:06 am
Next Friday night. We're on TV, but I don't know if I can watch, not after being humiliated by a second rate side like St. Kilda. Brisbane will run all over us and kill us with their disposal. Voss has a very poor success level against his old team.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 03, 2026, 09:45:01 am
100+ by ironically Voss's old team.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Lods on May 03, 2026, 09:48:54 am
I think we'll play well and lead at half time and then they will have a ten goal quarter. There won't be a lot of difference in the last quarter, but the game will be over by then.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 03, 2026, 10:10:41 am
I think we'll play well and lead at half time and then they will have a ten goal quarter. There won't be a lot of difference in the last quarter, but the game will be over by then.
Copy and paste from every other game.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Blue Moon on May 03, 2026, 10:22:50 am
Play young kids, play young kids, play young kids.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Lods on May 03, 2026, 10:45:08 am
I actually thought a few of our guys who have been pushing for selection (Young, Wilson) weren't as good yesterday as they have been in previous games. I doubt there were any game changers that we could promote, but surely Hewett has done enough and these other guys probably deserve a chance. Lord should be back in.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Thryleon on May 03, 2026, 10:49:43 am
I know everyone wants to see youth, but whats the point of putting kids out to the slaughter?
We need to stop thinking of putting players out there to expose them and find out about them, but rather to play a role and learn how to play afl footy.
Last night:
Matt Carroll Jagga smith Lachie cowan Ollie hollands Harry dean
Inexperienced but mature: Liam reiddy. Frankie evans
Ollie hollands the most experienced of the lot having played 71 games now, the rest are all sub 50 games.
Play too many more and what are they learning?
2 of this lot went off injured fwiw. Dean with a groin and cowan went off for concussion test (and it may have changed the game).
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: kruddler on May 03, 2026, 11:40:45 am
I said Saad would've been my 3rd choice for promoting a HBF after last week. Wilson and Charleson should've got a gig first IMO. That being said, i actually liked Saad and his 'randomness'. Him taking off and darting every which was causes chaos. Chaos is hard to defend. We are too easy to defend against currently, so i'd persist. But.... I'd move him further up the ground. Play him on a wing. Play him in the middle. Play him at half forward. Any of them still allows him to come help out in defence, but it frees up a spot for another HBF to come in. So lets promote Wilson this week.
I didn't see any of the game, so it appears its poor timing....but we need foot skills so he gets a gig.
Harry can piss off, bring in Ison. Having 3 similar type medium forwards running around (Ison, Kemp, McGovern) would make it hard for the opposition to get good matchups.
Dean looks to be out, bring back Young.
Cowan may be out, which helps the Wilson promotion.
If Pitto is right, keep him. If not, rest him. Drop Reidy, bring in HOK...and play him further up the ground rather than hide him in the goal square. Get his hands on the ball more. Get him dropping down across half back.
Hewett needs to come back, i'd rest Cripps, but that won't happen, so Cerra it is.
Hayward needs a reality check, bring back Moir who will impact the scoreboard more.
IN: L. Young, Wilson, Hewett, HOK, Ison, Moir OUT: Dean (inj) Cowan (inj) Cerra, Reidy, McKay, Hayward.
We won't win, but we should learn and develop a lot more than sticking with the same crew.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: rocky on May 03, 2026, 01:51:03 pm
Of the 6 in's you've mentioned, only Hewett deserves a call-up. That's not going to happen. If you saw Voss' post match you'd know George is on the nose. Well on his nose primarily I would rather Harry went to CHB than bring in the donkey (L Young). Wilson started off pretty well yesterday afternoon but then had a couple of horrible moments and his confidence just dropped off. Like he felt he'd blown his chance? Still I'd be happy to give him a run if Cowan doesn't get up. Maybe he'll get in anyway. At the expense of a seriously underdone/out of form Cottrell HOK is just no good at the moment. Cannot get considered, so based on our MC he has every chance You need to watch the magoos game. Moir kicked an absolute ripper on his left from the boundary. More evidence of a player who has "something" but just can't sustain it for longer periods , yet, I hope. Still if Harry goes back he would be my logical replacement. Finally, Ison. First time I've had a good look at this kid and I'm hoping, HOPING, we may have found one. Didn't get a lot of it but 3 goals from 8 kicks ain't bad. Looks to have some mongrel too. Wouldn't mind having a look at him in the big league
oh, p.s. Cody Walker. Very, very good
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 03, 2026, 01:58:16 pm
Of the 6 in's you've mentioned, only Hewett deserves a call-up. That's not going to happen. If you saw Voss' post match you'd know George is on the nose. Well on his nose primarily I would rather Harry went to CHB than bring in the donkey (L Young). Wilson started off pretty well yesterday afternoon but then had a couple of horrible moments and his confidence just dropped off. Like he felt he'd blown his chance? Still I'd be happy to give him a run if Cowan doesn't get up. Maybe he'll get in anyway. At the expense of a seriously underdone/out of form Cottrell HOK is just no good at the moment. Cannot get considered, so based on our MC he has every chance You need to watch the magoos game. Moir kicked an absolute ripper on his left from the boundary. More evidence of a player who has "something" but just can't sustain it for longer periods , yet, I hope. Still if Harry goes back he would be my logical replacement. Finally, Ison. First time I've had a good look at this kid and I'm hoping, HOPING, we may have found one. Didn't get a lot of it but 3 goals from 8 kicks ain't bad. Looks to have some mongrel too. Wouldn't mind having a look at him in the big league
oh, p.s. Cody Walker. Very, very good
Lewis Young has been reasonable...Weitering, Harry and a host of others have been woeful. Young has more to play for imho and while I wouldnt play him on anyone brilliant he can play a few roles and didnt deserve to be dropped imo but of course you cant drop any of the big name players and create more headlines.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: kruddler on May 03, 2026, 02:24:17 pm
Of the 6 in's you've mentioned, only Hewett deserves a call-up. That's not going to happen. If you saw Voss' post match you'd know George is on the nose. Well on his nose primarily I would rather Harry went to CHB than bring in the donkey (L Young). Wilson started off pretty well yesterday afternoon but then had a couple of horrible moments and his confidence just dropped off. Like he felt he'd blown his chance? Still I'd be happy to give him a run if Cowan doesn't get up. Maybe he'll get in anyway. At the expense of a seriously underdone/out of form Cottrell HOK is just no good at the moment. Cannot get considered, so based on our MC he has every chance You need to watch the magoos game. Moir kicked an absolute ripper on his left from the boundary. More evidence of a player who has "something" but just can't sustain it for longer periods , yet, I hope. Still if Harry goes back he would be my logical replacement. Finally, Ison. First time I've had a good look at this kid and I'm hoping, HOPING, we may have found one. Didn't get a lot of it but 3 goals from 8 kicks ain't bad. Looks to have some mongrel too. Wouldn't mind having a look at him in the big league
oh, p.s. Cody Walker. Very, very good
Don't get confused with what i want vs what i think will happen.
I know most of the above are no chance of happening. I know next week will be more of the same as a result.
I'm trying to create enough of a change to jolt us awake again. MC will not.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 03, 2026, 02:36:02 pm
Of the 6 in's you've mentioned, only Hewett deserves a call-up. That's not going to happen. If you saw Voss' post match you'd know George is on the nose. Well on his nose primarily I would rather Harry went to CHB than bring in the donkey (L Young). Wilson started off pretty well yesterday afternoon but then had a couple of horrible moments and his confidence just dropped off. Like he felt he'd blown his chance? Still I'd be happy to give him a run if Cowan doesn't get up. Maybe he'll get in anyway. At the expense of a seriously underdone/out of form Cottrell HOK is just no good at the moment. Cannot get considered, so based on our MC he has every chance You need to watch the magoos game. Moir kicked an absolute ripper on his left from the boundary. More evidence of a player who has "something" but just can't sustain it for longer periods , yet, I hope. Still if Harry goes back he would be my logical replacement. Finally, Ison. First time I've had a good look at this kid and I'm hoping, HOPING, we may have found one. Didn't get a lot of it but 3 goals from 8 kicks ain't bad. Looks to have some mongrel too. Wouldn't mind having a look at him in the big league
oh, p.s. Cody Walker. Very, very good
Word on the street is he might be reconsidering his decision to nominate us.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: LP on May 03, 2026, 03:28:20 pm
Word on the street is he might be reconsidering his decision to nominate us.
Jack Riewoldt thinks he should go to Nthmond to experience more future success! ;D
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: bratblue on May 04, 2026, 11:06:38 am
Michael Gleeson in the Age suggested this for the whiteboard..................Strengths: terrific on our terms. Front running. Celebrations. Offensive running.
Weaknesses: Handballing, kicking, marking, tackling when things aren’t on their terms. Defensive running. Insularity. Leadership. Speed. Depth of talent and class.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: pertz on May 05, 2026, 08:55:00 pm
Play young kids, play young kids, play young kids.
Disagree, Disagree and Disagree. Why sent newbies up there against the experienced, hardened Lions ? Not sure about hammering will help there development especially given the lack of support our senior players are providing. No, send up all the experienced players that have got us in this Sh$t position and let them deal with it.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Lods on May 06, 2026, 07:00:53 pm
I skimmed your post and clicked the link straight away.
When i read it i thought it said "We will see..." So watching the video I was waiting for Vossy to jump out and surprise him. Then i re-read your post. :-[
I doubt its this week, but it will be soon IMO.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Lods on May 06, 2026, 07:56:36 pm
There is a fair bit of talk around the Carlton forums that Hewett will be back in this week. Almost like it's a done deal. I can't see anything official. There's no team until tomorrow night. Has Voss announced it somewhere.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 06, 2026, 07:57:01 pm
George is back in
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 06, 2026, 07:57:50 pm
There is a fair bit of talk around the Carlton forums that Hewett will be back in this week. Almost like it's a done deal. I can't see anything official. There's no team until tomorrow night. Has Voss announced it somewhere.
Beat me by 30 seconds odd
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Lods on May 06, 2026, 07:58:45 pm
Of the 6 in's you've mentioned, only Hewett deserves a call-up. That's not going to happen. If you saw Voss' post match you'd know George is on the nose. Well on his nose primarily I would rather Harry went to CHB than bring in the donkey (L Young). Wilson started off pretty well yesterday afternoon but then had a couple of horrible moments and his confidence just dropped off. Like he felt he'd blown his chance? Still I'd be happy to give him a run if Cowan doesn't get up. Maybe he'll get in anyway. At the expense of a seriously underdone/out of form Cottrell HOK is just no good at the moment. Cannot get considered, so based on our MC he has every chance You need to watch the magoos game. Moir kicked an absolute ripper on his left from the boundary. More evidence of a player who has "something" but just can't sustain it for longer periods , yet, I hope. Still if Harry goes back he would be my logical replacement. Finally, Ison. First time I've had a good look at this kid and I'm hoping, HOPING, we may have found one. Didn't get a lot of it but 3 goals from 8 kicks ain't bad. Looks to have some mongrel too. Wouldn't mind having a look at him in the big league
oh, p.s. Cody Walker. Very, very good
Word on the street is he might be reconsidering his decision to nominate us.
That's word on the street named Jack Riewoldt Street.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 06, 2026, 09:38:23 pm
There is a fair bit of talk around the Carlton forums that Hewett will be back in this week. Almost like it's a done deal. I can't see anything official. There's no team until tomorrow night. Has Voss announced it somewhere.
Good news if true Lods. Could never understand the logic of him not being in the team.
With Hewlett back in and on the ball, It would be great if our coaches did something really daring like .....Cripps to CHF and Harry to CHB for at least a quarter. Then if not working out swap them....Cripps to CHB and Harry back to the forward line. ie. change it up rather that same old same old.
Perhaps if they really got into the swing of it....move the two ex Sydney boys Ollie and Will around to give us more grunt on the ball, with Flynn Young up forward. All too much for Carlton coaches ??
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: shawny on May 07, 2026, 12:19:48 pm
There is a fair bit of talk around the Carlton forums that Hewett will be back in this week. Almost like it's a done deal. I can't see anything official. There's no team until tomorrow night. Has Voss announced it somewhere.
Good news if true Lods. Could never understand the logic of him not being in the team.
With Hewlett back in and on the ball, It would be great if our coaches did something really daring like .....Cripps to CHF and Harry to CHB for at least a quarter. Then if not working out swap them....Cripps to CHB and Harry back to the forward line. ie. change it up rather that same old same old.
Perhaps if they really got into the swing of it....move the two ex Sydney boys Ollie and Will around to give us more grunt on the ball, with Flynn Young up forward. All too much for Carlton coaches ??
Voss is too busy with his head in his laptop to make bold changes.
Need to uninstall solitare ;)
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Thryleon on May 07, 2026, 12:57:21 pm
This approach to tactics is tricky.
In any management environment, if you are shuffling things around too much, this is actually bad. It creates a lack of stability and makes people feel a bit like you dont have faith in them to perform their role. Sure, its team sports and its not quite the same thing, but there is an element of that which shouldnt be ignored.
I think on a tactical or game play type of level, we have the way we want to play. That involves players playing a role and taking an action or reaction in play. For those roles, at the start of the year, Voss had his roster, and came up with plans for each role. This is why players seemingly come into the team irrespective of form line. I.e. Cottrell 2 weeks ago. The player he is up against, for a game in our team, may not obviously be the same one, even if they can play the same role. You probably identify a couple of different options for each role, and this is why its a bit strange.
The sort of things that people on here get annoyed about regarding the lack of obvious "attempts to change things" is very much magnets on a board stuff. It doesn't involve managing people and forgets that this is a more involved process, with flow on impacts and effects that are not considered. It also fails to understand why some players get omitted vs others at times, because it may be a multi faceted change. Thing
Showing a lack of dare is something, but Harry to CHB is a fandom moment. He might work back there, but robbing him from the forwardline given our other forward options, and his lack of experience back there is a shock factor move, not a planned one. You might try it for a game or two at some point, but you wont just do it on the fly without giving him some input, because he might very well be a lost puppy without a specific assignment.
I think for Harry they would have identified his forward roles, and a backup ruck role with nothing else happening. How he moves with and around Kemp and Mcgovern is his focus. You flick that switch up too much and you wreck players confidence, and lets face it, Harry is a delicate flower.
He swings the magnets that are a bit more palatable to it, rather than trying things with guys that are what you see is what you get footballers. Cripps is fine as an additional tall. Put him at full forward from the start, and I reckon defenders would lick their lips. Not overly fast, not overly strong over head (his shoulders arent great) and he has a history of back issues. We have broken him a bit too.
Anyway, of our 46 players, having them learn more than 2 roles per player is likely undesirable as you hit a critical mass of too many "pinch hitters" all of a sudden not figuring out how to play next.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: shawny on May 07, 2026, 02:01:01 pm
I hope Dean is playing. The kid is one of a very few that has a real go and looks to play for the jumper.
Harry might as well stay home - will get a bath from Andrews.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Lods on May 07, 2026, 02:49:31 pm
It looks like Wilson will play. He took a couple of games to get going last year. Hopefully it's not straight in and then out again. Tough assignment first up.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Professer E on May 07, 2026, 03:32:48 pm
Cowan is in out due to a head knock, I wonder who is up for the kybosh then?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 07, 2026, 06:21:04 pm
In Wilson Hewett Out Reidy Cottrell
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: kruddler on May 07, 2026, 06:21:14 pm
In: Hewett Wilson Out: Reidy Cottrell
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 07, 2026, 06:21:30 pm
Cowan is in out due to a head knock, I wonder who is up for the kybosh then?
not according to ins and outs
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: kruddler on May 07, 2026, 06:25:32 pm
I think thats a much better balanced team.
I would like Harry to get a gig as 2nd ruck when required. Get him up into the contest. Cripps to help out in the ruck as well.
Extra midfielder vs 2 rucks should help minimise the fade outs. .....but we are against the best side in the comp over the last 3 years, so may not matter.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Baggers on May 07, 2026, 06:33:45 pm
Baffles me too. Much rather see Cooper Lord to Cerra.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: crashlander on May 07, 2026, 08:49:56 pm
Our line-up:
B: 35 Harry Dean 23 Jacob Weitering 26 Nick Haynes HB: 2 Lachlan Cowan 14 Oliver Florent 42 Adam Saad C: 4 Oliver Hollands 9 Patrick Cripps 32 Matthew Carroll HF: 12 Ben Ainsworth 11 Mitch McGovern 44 Francis Evans F: 7 Jagga Smith 10 Harry McKay 17 Brodie Kemp R: 27 Marc Pittonet 29 George Hewett 18 Sam Walsh Int: 15 Billy Wilson 24 Nic Newman 5 Adam Cerra 6 Zac Williams 19 Will Hayward EM: 46 Matthew Cottrell 30 Jack Ison 47 Wade Derksen
[1] I don't like having 1 ruck, when the opposition have 2, but Reidy struggled to make an impact last week. I hope H and Crippa can fill in the gap, although I do see this as a weakness. Pitto has struggled late in the games this year. However, we don't have a jumping ruck. At least HOK is starting to take a few marks again, but he isn't there yet. [2] Lord ... I would probably have played him over Cerra, who has struggled this year. Our MC appear to think that Cerra is the future, but he has really lacked a spark this year. [3] I'm not disappointed that Cottrell was dropped: he hasn't hit form yet. He does seem to take a long time to get his form back, which is disappointing, as his disposal is really good. I think Wilson had to come in. He's been so hot lately. We usually wait until guys lose their form before we promote them: I hope we haven't done that again. [4] Nice to see Ison close. His possessions number seems to be increasing most weeks, as his kicking is a weapon. [5] I will be interested to see how our midfield lines up. Certainly, we struggled there for most of this year. It will depend on how Pitto goes.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Professer E on May 07, 2026, 09:33:39 pm
We don't match the lions in any area but their half backs eg Zorko normally annihilate us.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: MickyO on May 07, 2026, 11:22:27 pm
Thankfully am out and will not be able to watch a minute of this game 🥵 i expect it to be a super tough watch for Blues fans.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Lods on May 08, 2026, 07:00:16 am
Well here we go. The biggest test of the year for a group that give the impression their study habits haven't been the best. They keep making the same mistakes, and brain fades.
As much as we would all like a win, with the current betting markets very much against us, the general expectation is we will struggle. What we do want to see though is effort, competitiveness and a bit of leadership from our senior group...and possibly that may lead to a game close enough where anything can happen.
Of the alternatives I don't know which would be worse....an absolute smacking or a game where we have a good lead at half time only to surrender it 5-10 minutes after the second half starts. One is definitive...the other predictable.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Baggers on May 08, 2026, 08:49:01 am
Well here we go. The biggest test of the year for a group that give the impression their study habits haven't been the best. They keep making the same mistakes, and brain fades.
As much as we would all like a win, with the current betting markets very much against us, the general expectation is we will struggle. What we do want to see though is effort, competitiveness and a bit of leadership from our senior group...and possibly that may lead to a game close enough where anything can happen.
Of the alternatives I don't know which would be worse....an absolute smacking or a game where we have a good lead at half time only to surrender it 5-10 minutes after the second half starts. One is definitive...the other predictable.
We've got a pretty good idea which Brisvegas will turn up.
Big question is, which CFC will turn up? Will it be the D1ckers game? Aints? Rottingwood? Which quarter will we win and which quarter or two will we capitulate?
The one thing we do know is that we take a few passengers into this game. I speak of H, Cerra, Weiters, Hayward, Crippa is struggling, Hollands works hard but with limited impact... Hopefully they turn it around. Brisvegas don't seem to have any passengers. Maybe they'll relax a smidge considering their opponent - us.
Will Vossy double down on contest and pressure or encourage and back the 'new' game? Until the Aints game I was encouraged by our progress. Then we collapsed back into our 'old' game. I really wanted to believe in Vossy. Hope sprung eternal!
All-in-all, I hope we're competitive ...at least. Hopefully with H doing some ruck time, he'll regain touch and confidence. Hopefully Crippa spends more time forward giving midfield bull work to Hewett. Hopefully Ainsworth gets midfield time. Hopefully on-field leaders develop an understanding that leadership aint about heroics and/or trying to do it all yourself!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Thryleon on May 08, 2026, 09:00:27 am
Well here we go. The biggest test of the year for a group that give the impression their study habits haven't been the best. They keep making the same mistakes, and brain fades.
As much as we would all like a win, with the current betting markets very much against us, the general expectation is we will struggle. What we do want to see though is effort, competitiveness and a bit of leadership from our senior group...and possibly that may lead to a game close enough where anything can happen.
Of the alternatives I don't know which would be worse....an absolute smacking or a game where we have a good lead at half time only to surrender it 5-10 minutes after the second half starts. One is definitive...the other predictable.
We've got a pretty good idea which Brisvegas will turn up.
Big question is, which CFC will turn up? Will it be the D1ckers game? Aints? Rottingwood? Which quarter will we win and which quarter or two will we capitulate?
The one thing we do know is that we take a few passengers into this game. I speak of H, Cerra, Weiters, Hayward, Crippa is struggling, Hollands works hard but with limited impact... Hopefully they turn it around. Brisvegas don't seem to have any passengers. Maybe they'll relax a smidge considering their opponent - us.
Will Vossy double down on contest and pressure or encourage and back the 'new' game? Until the Aints game I was encouraged by our progress. Then we collapsed back into our 'old' game. I really wanted to believe in Vossy. Hope sprung eternal!
All-in-all, I hope we're competitive ...at least. Hopefully with H doing some ruck time, he'll regain touch and confidence. Hopefully Crippa spends more time forward giving midfield bull work to Hewett. Hopefully Ainsworth gets midfield time. Hopefully on-field leaders develop an understanding that leadership aint about heroics and/or trying to do it all yourself!
You have answer your own question.
When you live and die by your top 20% of performers and those players are H, Cerra, Weiters, Hayward, Crippa, and they have given us what they give us this season, we already know what the ouctome is gonna be, so your question is, how effective will they be this week?
The answer is only Hayward is trending the right way.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Lods on May 08, 2026, 09:29:14 am
Harry seems to be a bit in no man's land at the moment. He doesn't seem to be playing as the Key forward marking target, or doing his thing up around the wing half forward.
If we reach the stage where we're doing some extensive list evaluation ;) ;) ... I'd stick him back in the VFL and try him as a key defender,
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: RiverRat on May 08, 2026, 10:47:20 am
Harry seems to be a bit in no man's land at the moment. He doesn't seem to be playing as the Key forward marking target, or doing his thing up around the wing half forward.
If we reach the stage where we're doing some extensive list evaluation ;) ;) ... I'd stick him back in the VFL and try him as a key defender,
Put him CHF and give Derksen a go at FF
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Lods on May 08, 2026, 11:48:02 am
Harry seems to be a bit in no man's land at the moment. He doesn't seem to be playing as the Key forward marking target, or doing his thing up around the wing half forward.
If we reach the stage where we're doing some extensive list evaluation ;) ;) ... I'd stick him back in the VFL and try him as a key defender,
Put him CHF and give Derksen a go at FF
Derksen has spent a bit of time forward in the VFL, but they've also had him doing a bit of back-up ruck work. He probably needs to have a four or five goal game down there before they give him a chance at senior level. But yep, he could be an option.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Baggers on May 08, 2026, 11:52:46 am
We've got a pretty good idea which Brisvegas will turn up.
Big question is, which CFC will turn up? Will it be the D1ckers game? Aints? Rottingwood? Which quarter will we win and which quarter or two will we capitulate?
The one thing we do know is that we take a few passengers into this game. I speak of H, Cerra, Weiters, Hayward, Crippa is struggling, Hollands works hard but with limited impact... Hopefully they turn it around. Brisvegas don't seem to have any passengers. Maybe they'll relax a smidge considering their opponent - us.
Will Vossy double down on contest and pressure or encourage and back the 'new' game? Until the Aints game I was encouraged by our progress. Then we collapsed back into our 'old' game. I really wanted to believe in Vossy. Hope sprung eternal!
All-in-all, I hope we're competitive ...at least. Hopefully with H doing some ruck time, he'll regain touch and confidence. Hopefully Crippa spends more time forward giving midfield bull work to Hewett. Hopefully Ainsworth gets midfield time. Hopefully on-field leaders develop an understanding that leadership aint about heroics and/or trying to do it all yourself!
You have answer your own question.
When you live and die by your top 20% of performers and those players are H, Cerra, Weiters, Hayward, Crippa, and they have given us what they give us this season, we already know what the ouctome is gonna be, so your question is, how effective will they be this week?
The answer is only Hayward is trending the right way.
I'm not so sure I've answered my own question as there are other more important questions: are these blokes being used properly, does our game plan suit them, are we leading and managing them as best we can?
We know that all are better than they're showing. H has always looked better up the field/helping out with rucking. And I think the questions for the others and their best uses also asks questions. How often do we play blokes out of position? Doesn't a narrow focus of contest and pressure only suit certain types? What happens to more creative and offensive types in this system?
Do our on-field leaders really know what leadership is? Why do they think that trying to do it all themselves is leadership (it aint)? Against Brisvegas this evening will ask of us being able to play a few different ways, as they sure can. They've developed the various skills that a variety of players bring. We haven't. Why?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: cookie2 on May 08, 2026, 12:37:35 pm
Agreed, our idea of a leader seems to be based around being the “best player “. There seems little to no emphasis on helping others to improve or to better perform their roles within the team plan? I’ve played in a team alongside a couple of very gifted players who tried to do it all and remained aloof to others. Needless to say, it was not a very happy team.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Lods on May 08, 2026, 01:02:29 pm
I just don't think we have anyone on our list at the moment who has all the tricks, attitude and ability required of a Captain.
For a start you need someone who will play every week...that eliminates half the side from the 'get go' Next you need someone with a bit of mental strength and confidence... and woops, there goes another couple. We're struggling now. Age is a factor...you want to be looking at a longer term option for our next captain, rather than just the next few years. That doesn't completely eliminate all our oldies, if they possess other qualities and have proven to be pretty durable. And 'durability' is also an important factor.
How frequently are they injured,or are carrying injuries. Are they an outgoing type, or insular type of person who tends to prioritise their own performance, often critical of others who they don't think are reaching standards. Do they inspire others in a follow me style on the playing field.
Now you're probably going to struggle getting someone who fits every criteria, but have a look the list and you can probably put a line, or at least a question mark over most of them.
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/teams/afl
Gee, you would almost give it to Pittonet.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 08, 2026, 01:57:39 pm
Agreed, our idea of a leader seems to be based around being the “best player “. There seems little to no emphasis on helping others to improve or to better perform their roles within the team plan? I’ve played in a team alongside a couple of very gifted players who tried to do it all and remained aloof to others. Needless to say, it was not a very happy team.
Hawks found a captain from the VFL in the mid season draft, reason he was picked was he gets along with everyone and has a friendly disposition. You will always get different groups in football clubs, young, old, introverts, extroverts but you need someone who can get along with everyone and weld them together. Picking elite players with high standards/expectations isnt always a good idea, I remember Maxwell at Collingwood and Harley at Geelong were in the bottom half talent wise on the list but were good at getting all the different factions together when it mattered. Not all players will love each other or the coach but as long as you have someone who can bring them together on match day it doesnt matter what happens during the week.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: kruddler on May 08, 2026, 01:58:38 pm
I just don't think we have anyone on our list at the moment who has all the tricks, attitude and ability required of a Captain.
For a start you need someone who will play every week...that eliminates half the side from the 'get go' Next you need someone with a bit of mental strength and confidence... and woops, there goes another couple. We're struggling now. Age is a factor...you want to be looking at a longer term option for our next captain, rather than just the next few years. That doesn't completely eliminate all our oldies, if they possess other qualities and have proven to be pretty durable. And 'durability' is also an important factor.
How frequently are they injured,or are carrying injuries. Are they an outgoing type, or insular type of person who tends to prioritise their own performance, often critical of others who they don't think are reaching standards. Do they inspire others in a follow me style on the playing field.
Now you're probably going to struggle getting someone who fits every criteria, but have a look the list and you can probably put a line, or at least a question mark over most of them.
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/teams/afl
Gee, you would almost give it to Pittonet.
I said the same thing a few weeks ago. ....and its got nothing to do with whatever 'bias' people project onto me about previous discussions (which shows they've missed the point anyway).
He actually ticks all the boxes, apart from the modern day one of being the best player...and even that he gave a shake after about 4 rounds too.
He does very well with the media. He plays with passion. Hs is a physical presence that doesn't mind showing it. He 'appears' to have the respect of the playing group. He is team oriented.
How many others tick that amount of boxes?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: PaulP on May 08, 2026, 02:05:52 pm
Rather than putting our eggs in one basket, I like the idea of democratizing the captaincy - having minimum two and ideally three co-captains, on the fairly strict proviso that they are on the same page. That way you cover yourself wrt injuries, the workload is spread out, you get the input and direction from three minds, one may have certain core competencies that the others may lack, and vice versa.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 08, 2026, 03:13:07 pm
Agreed, our idea of a leader seems to be based around being the “best player “. There seems little to no emphasis on helping others to improve or to better perform their roles within the team plan? I’ve played in a team alongside a couple of very gifted players who tried to do it all and remained aloof to others. Needless to say, it was not a very happy team.
Hawks found a captain from the VFL in the mid season draft, reason he was picked was he gets along with everyone and has a friendly disposition. You will always get different groups in football clubs, young, old, introverts, extroverts but you need someone who can get along with everyone and weld them together. Picking elite players with high standards/expectations isnt always a good idea, I remember Maxwell at Collingwood and Harley at Geelong were in the bottom half talent wise on the list but were good at getting all the different factions together when it mattered. Not all players will love each other or the coach but as long as you have someone who can bring them together on match day it doesnt matter what happens during the week.
Get on yes but needs to be able to demand, give tough love and get a response, think Hodge. Our bloke appears too far in the get on with everyone direction.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Baggers on May 08, 2026, 04:25:54 pm
Concerning, isn't it... most of us find it difficult to immediately jump to a number of names as our on-field leaders :-[ :( They should leap out at us. They don't. And we wonder why we cave when heat and change come our way!
I'd also add respect to the list of prerequisites for a leader, respect as a leader that is. They're also vocal on the field, demanding and reinforcing standards and values. Key word: Demanding. Look at how the Bont doesn't hesitate to direct and demand. There have been some great on-field leaders over the decades, both appointed and spiritual leaders.
Leaders never seek to be liked, popular, nice or a buddy. They're too busy bringing everyone together onto the same page, aligned on a course of values with ruthless persistence to succeed and win. Anything less aint good enough. They don't seek to lead through inspiration but rather find ways for others to feel inspired. They don't need motivating.
And, IMHO, Pauly is 100% right in regard to creating, identifying and empowering numerous on-field leaders... not having it all fall on the shoulders of one person - recipe for disaster. To hazard a guess I think Walshy, Pitto, Newey, Crippa & Weiters (in that order) show some aspects of leadership. None take the crew by the scruff and demand it better... except maybe Walshy and Newey. Being nice and positive won't cut the mustard on a gladiatorial field of battle.
Let's see who shows on-field leadership tonight. It'll be needed.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Baggers on May 08, 2026, 04:27:36 pm
Hawks found a captain from the VFL in the mid season draft, reason he was picked was he gets along with everyone and has a friendly disposition. You will always get different groups in football clubs, young, old, introverts, extroverts but you need someone who can get along with everyone and weld them together. Picking elite players with high standards/expectations isnt always a good idea, I remember Maxwell at Collingwood and Harley at Geelong were in the bottom half talent wise on the list but were good at getting all the different factions together when it mattered. Not all players will love each other or the coach but as long as you have someone who can bring them together on match day it doesnt matter what happens during the week.
Get on yes but needs to be able to demand, give tough love and get a response, think Hodge. Our bloke appears too far in the get on with everyone direction.
Absolutely.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Baggers on May 08, 2026, 04:29:32 pm
Hawks found a captain from the VFL in the mid season draft, reason he was picked was he gets along with everyone and has a friendly disposition. You will always get different groups in football clubs, young, old, introverts, extroverts but you need someone who can get along with everyone and weld them together. Picking elite players with high standards/expectations isnt always a good idea, I remember Maxwell at Collingwood and Harley at Geelong were in the bottom half talent wise on the list but were good at getting all the different factions together when it mattered. Not all players will love each other or the coach but as long as you have someone who can bring them together on match day it doesnt matter what happens during the week.
Get on yes but needs to be able to demand, give tough love and get a response, think Hodge. Our bloke appears too far in the get on with everyone direction. Also called, niceness.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Professer E on May 08, 2026, 05:55:38 pm
We lost a lot of leadership when Docherty had a series of health issues then ultimately retired early. So we really need to add his name to those who departed last year when it comes to impact.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 08, 2026, 06:54:00 pm
Get on yes but needs to be able to demand, give tough love and get a response, think Hodge. Our bloke appears too far in the get on with everyone direction. Also called, niceness.
I liken his style to a CMFEU Union Shop Steward, looks after the players (workers) and couldnt give a fark about the boss (Coach) and the company (CFC).