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Title: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: crashlander on May 08, 2026, 10:54:48 pm
Saturday night at Marvel, starting at 19:35.
Not a venue we've done much at, and the Dogs are on the improve again. Ruck rules will favour English, who is the difference for the Dogs. With him, they're a chance, without him they're toast.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: townsendcalling on May 08, 2026, 11:22:24 pm
English could be out with concussion. Got whacked by Kennedy!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 09, 2026, 06:39:59 am
Can not afford to slip backward after the second half effort last night.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 09, 2026, 08:08:25 am
They need to make last night the start of something. Simple as that.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Professer E on May 09, 2026, 08:11:32 am
Start by getting in front of the Fing green pests and sorting out the ruck rule - it has killed us
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: townsendcalling on May 09, 2026, 01:49:43 pm
I think we could bring Ison in, move Kemp to the back line and drop Haynes. Weitering has said how much he enjoys working with Kemp in the past. Kemp is in good for, he just can't kick straight! Ison is aggressive, committed and can kick straight.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: shawny on May 09, 2026, 07:00:20 pm
another loss coming.
honourable one but another loss.
will be 1-9
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 09, 2026, 10:31:14 pm
2-8, we match up well against the dogs and they are depleted.
Yep, we can and should win this.
I think so Baggers, for whatever reason we have a history of generally playing every well against them. Darcy out helps, if English misses as has been suggested thats good also. They are a good outfit thought and will see us as road kill. Over to you messrs Cripps, Walsh and Weitering.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: rocky on May 10, 2026, 06:00:00 pm
English will be out as reported today and that will help, but unless we continue on with the same attitude/effort as in half 2 v the Lions they should account for us comfortably. I'm actually starting to think about the big picture (come last and get the double pick) so another honourable loss wont upset me too much
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: BluePhantom on May 11, 2026, 11:23:36 am
Derksen FF, Harry CHF. Ison in as well
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on May 11, 2026, 11:49:07 am
We can't take much from the VFL game regarding the talls, because the Demons were basically a squad of kids. For example even Moir looked to be a class above, especially when we started avoiding Tom McDonald.
But the smaller of our on ball brigade did OK, better than OK, effectively against a bunch of peers.
I like the look of Ison in that turnover transition roll, but I'm not sure he has an AFL tank yet, he's another in that Kemp or Cripps size bracket and to me looks a bit like Kemp before we pigeon-holed Kemp as a defender.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on May 11, 2026, 12:42:11 pm
I think this next game will be closer than everyone thinks, our weakness is our D50 but they are injury riddled which seems to be the dominant issue.
Bont could well play forward against us, he'll be wasted if he just has a head to head with Cripps and breaks even.
There will be opportunities for Harry and Kemp.
Can we play with the same intensity coming back from Brisbane?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 11, 2026, 01:56:17 pm
For who? Its one thing to say why isnt this guy or that playing, its about positions and who goes in and out. Eg Williams, Saad and Wilson (all pretty much defs) were ordinary (Wilson has SFA TOG). Which of those listed replace the one above?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: rocky on May 11, 2026, 05:03:07 pm
I agree with townsendcalling around moving Kemp into the backline. His kicking for goal reached a new level on Friday, and not in a good way. Think this will completely shatter his confidence, so swing him back for a bit to hopefully get some back. I'd probably drop Wilson, unfortunately. Very disappointed in his game. Same with Saad. Shouldn't have been picked in the first place. Give Ison OR Moir a run as I don't think we can afford to play both.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on May 11, 2026, 08:07:38 pm
Don't make the move too quick. Last year against the dogs it was Lewis young with 2 goals and brodie kemp with 5.
Might be worth doing that, and if it isnt working swing weitering forward and kemp back.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: MickyO on May 11, 2026, 08:34:04 pm
I agree with townsendcalling around moving Kemp into the backline. His kicking for goal reached a new level on Friday, and not in a good way. Think this will completely shatter his confidence, so swing him back for a bit to hopefully get some back. I'd probably drop Wilson, unfortunately. Very disappointed in his game. Same with Saad. Shouldn't have been picked in the first place. Give Ison OR Moir a run as I don't think we can afford to play both.
Gosh would be harsh to drop billy after finally getting a game.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Sexybronco on May 13, 2026, 01:57:17 pm
I agree with townsendcalling around moving Kemp into the backline. His kicking for goal reached a new level on Friday, and not in a good way. Think this will completely shatter his confidence, so swing him back for a bit to hopefully get some back. I'd probably drop Wilson, unfortunately. Very disappointed in his game. Same with Saad. Shouldn't have been picked in the first place. Give Ison OR Moir a run as I don't think we can afford to play both.
Gosh would be harsh to drop billy after finally getting a game.
Reckon ISON will play this week, Moir doesn’t look to have it going yet but might be thrust into the fire again as well. We will be looking at more young kids now that top 10 is all but a faint hope.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on May 13, 2026, 01:57:37 pm
Apparantely we still have a game this week.
Appears it will be without Saad who has done a hammy today.
Reckon that ensures Wilson keeps his spot, but new coach, new ideas, who knows.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 13, 2026, 02:12:29 pm
Appears it will be without Saad who has done a hammy today.
Reckon that ensures Wilson keeps his spot, but new coach, new ideas, who knows.
Play the kids to play the system...it's about draft picks now not wins IMHO.
Depends on which kids. Some might be an improvement the way the old blokes are going.
Someone like Moir can benefit from more game time. He might play a game and get 5 touches. or He might kick 5 goals in a half as he has that ability.
Do you play Reidy or HOK instead of Pittonet? Is that too obvious for tanking?
Ison for Harry a week ago was favoured, but after that half from harry do we keep him?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 13, 2026, 02:50:19 pm
Pittonet, Cripps, Weitering and Walsh all look like they could do with a week off. ;) :D
Seriously though. Florent, Willams and Walsh all looked to be injured at the end of the Brisbane game. Walsh and the medical folk were showing particular interest in his foot...that's a wait and see
The result could be anything from a sugar hit, to a side that's a bit rocked by the loss of a coach. We should start to see the kids, but not all in one hit, and hopefully they get blocks of three or four games. Charleson and Ben Camporeale need to debut to see how they handle senior football.
No expectations for this game but interested to see how Fraser and the team approach it.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 13, 2026, 02:52:56 pm
Play the kids to play the system...it's about draft picks now not wins IMHO.
Depends on which kids. Some might be an improvement the way the old blokes are going.
Someone like Moir can benefit from more game time. He might play a game and get 5 touches. or He might kick 5 goals in a half as he has that ability.
Do you play Reidy or HOK instead of Pittonet? Is that too obvious for tanking?
Ison for Harry a week ago was favoured, but after that half from harry do we keep him?
Harry I would play and fatten up for the trade period. Not saying I would trade him but if the offer was overs I'd think about it... Ison deserves a debut and we need to know about the Campos, Charleson etc. HOK needs game time and to find a role...
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on May 13, 2026, 02:59:16 pm
System over wins. Play whoever we need to for the benefit of both.
If the rumours are true, then the culture at the club is only about whats in it for them, so the next coach needs to bring a team first mentality to the club.
Harry Lemmey's delisting looks weirder by the day.
Ill give the anti Voss brigade something. The trend of players choosing to depart football rather than stay with the club, shows that potentially the decision to move on the senior coach was a necessary evil. We have had a lot of people "leave" whether they be pushed or go of their own volition in the last few years, which doesnt speak for a group that had players wanting to be here unless they had their own motivation. Some pride, others money, or prestige, or one club or whatever, but the outright delisting of Jaxon binns, and Harry Lemmey and playing guys like Reiddy, and Chesser are a bit more illuminating with the fresh news.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 13, 2026, 03:15:48 pm
System over wins. Play whoever we need to for the benefit of both.
If the rumours are true, then the culture at the club is only about whats in it for them, so the next coach needs to bring a team first mentality to the club.
Harry Lemmey's delisting looks weirder by the day.
Ill give the anti Voss brigade something. The trend of players choosing to depart football rather than stay with the club, shows that potentially the decision to move on the senior coach was a necessary evil. We have had a lot of people "leave" whether they be pushed or go of their own volition in the last few years, which doesnt speak for a group that had players wanting to be here unless they had their own motivation. Some pride, others money, or prestige, or one club or whatever, but the outright delisting of Jaxon binns, and Harry Lemmey and playing guys like Reiddy, and Chesser are a bit more illuminating with the fresh news.
Is that still the case though? Voss spoke in his interview with Barrett about the improvement in the culture. He seemed happy with his role in improving that aspect. Several sources have talked about those that weren't on board being mostly gone. The players left would appear to have been mostly on board with Voss.
Culture and division was a problem last year. I'm not so sure it was a big problem this year.
Just as an aside...How is Lemmey going this year and where is he playing?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on May 13, 2026, 03:19:31 pm
@Lods just keep in mind division and conflict are not always built on a foundation of truth, people who are social and political are involved.
As a fan it's pretty easy to make altruistic assumptions that more often than not turn out to be completely wrong.
But I find it hard to make a defence against the repeating circumstances and the potential constants.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on May 13, 2026, 03:45:19 pm
System over wins. Play whoever we need to for the benefit of both.
If the rumours are true, then the culture at the club is only about whats in it for them, so the next coach needs to bring a team first mentality to the club.
Harry Lemmey's delisting looks weirder by the day.
Ill give the anti Voss brigade something. The trend of players choosing to depart football rather than stay with the club, shows that potentially the decision to move on the senior coach was a necessary evil. We have had a lot of people "leave" whether they be pushed or go of their own volition in the last few years, which doesnt speak for a group that had players wanting to be here unless they had their own motivation. Some pride, others money, or prestige, or one club or whatever, but the outright delisting of Jaxon binns, and Harry Lemmey and playing guys like Reiddy, and Chesser are a bit more illuminating with the fresh news.
Is that still the case though? Voss spoke in his interview with Barrett about the improvement in the culture. He seemed happy with his role in improving that aspect. Several sources have talked about those that weren't on board being mostly gone. The players left would appear to have been mostly on board with Voss.
Culture and division was a problem last year. I'm not so sure it was a big problem this year.
Just as an aside...How is Lemmey going this year and where is he playing?
Yes but.
just because you remove dissenting voices, doesnt mean they werent correct. So the dissenting voices are gone, and then we get rid of the people involved and clean house. Our clubs approach is off with his head, rather than worry about, but why?> Or perhaps the but why we are seeing the result of?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: RiverRat on May 13, 2026, 04:00:11 pm
IIRC he had 3 years to show something but failed to show much at all.
Had one good game I recall where he kicked 7 but mostly was second fiddle to McMahon who hasn't played a game for Essendon this year.
Lemmey was supposed to have signed with West Adelaide this year but I can't see he's played a game with them.
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Noticed a report pre season in local media that Harry Lemmey was heading off to USA to try out for college football. Presumably as what they call a 'punter'.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 13, 2026, 04:38:10 pm
Had one good game I recall where he kicked 7 but mostly was second fiddle to McMahon who hasn't played a game for Essendon this year.
Lemmey was supposed to have signed with West Adelaide this year but I can't see he's played a game with them.
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Noticed a report pre season in local media that Harry Lemmey was heading off to USA to try out for college football. Presumably as what they call a 'punter'.
That would explain his absence from the West Adelaide list.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on May 13, 2026, 04:46:38 pm
The Aussie NFL punters are getting bigger and taller, literally. Taylor, Fletcher, they are all Sav sized or taller. Modern talls are so much more agile than the 6'6" types of the past. NFL Punters use to be agile 6fters, they thought bigger guys would be too slow to get a kick away. It's all changed, but even so I'm not sure Lemmey fits the bill.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Sexybronco on May 13, 2026, 05:07:32 pm
Just reported in AFL website that ISON will debut this week.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on May 13, 2026, 05:09:27 pm
IIRC he had 3 years to show something but failed to show much at all.
From what I had seen he wasnt to be persisted with, but in the frame of playing him vs Derkson...
Lemmey had 1 game where he kicked 7, with is the '1 game' Lods was referring too. However, from the 16 games he played in 2025, he managed 31 goals (1 goal short of 2 goals a game). Thats an upgrade on anything we have currently, and hardly 'one-game'.
But yes, instead we train a guy up as backmen, then try and turn him into a forward.....who hasn't got as many runs on the board. ::)
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 13, 2026, 05:28:58 pm
From what I had seen he wasnt to be persisted with, but in the frame of playing him vs Derkson...
Lemmey had 1 game where he kicked 7, with is the '1 game' Lods was referring too. However, from the 16 games he played in 2025, he managed 31 goals (1 goal short of 2 goals a game). Thats an upgrade on anything we have currently, and hardly 'one-game'.
But yes, instead we train a guy up as backmen, then try and turn him into a forward.....who hasn't got as many runs on the board. ::)
We're not training up a backman to be a forward. ::) He's as much a forward as he is a defender. Derksen kicked 35 goals for GWS in the VFL in 2023.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on May 13, 2026, 05:50:40 pm
Lemmey had 1 game where he kicked 7, with is the '1 game' Lods was referring too. However, from the 16 games he played in 2025, he managed 31 goals (1 goal short of 2 goals a game). Thats an upgrade on anything we have currently, and hardly 'one-game'.
But yes, instead we train a guy up as backmen, then try and turn him into a forward.....who hasn't got as many runs on the board. ::)
We're not training up a backman to be a forward. ::) He's as much a forward as he is a defender. Derksen kicked 35 goals for GWS in the VFL in 2023.
He was training as a defender when he came to us. He is listed as a key defender on the club website. He is expected to be a key defender.
Which is fine.....but after all of that, we want to make him a key forward now.
Why wouldn't we just train him as a key forward to begin with?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on May 13, 2026, 05:51:16 pm
You have to admit either way its a strange move given Lemmey is younger, and as capable of kicking against derkson and is younger, the only real variance is Derkson is more mature, and can play in defense, but Lemmey can play in the ruck...
Its just an observation, anyway. Something to discuss elsewhere I think.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: laj on May 13, 2026, 05:59:10 pm
Just reported in AFL website that ISON will debut this week.
Side might have a full 4 qtr crack this week with a new coach as can happen week 1. We'll, hopefully they do. So might be a good week to come in.
It will be difficult to judge the team short term as they adjust to life without Vossy but we’ll definitely see more new faces in the team, Camporeale’s will also need game time for proper evaluation.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 13, 2026, 06:20:18 pm
Standing at 194cm, Derksen - who had previously signed on with the Carlton Reserves program for 2026 - brings strong aerial ability and competitiveness that will further bolster Carlton’s depth heading into the season.
Capable of impacting at both ends of the ground, the 24-year-old was the leading goalkicker for the Giants 2023 VFL side before excelling in defence, with the following year seeing him named in the VFL’s Team of the Year squad as a defender.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Adelaideblue on May 13, 2026, 06:29:26 pm
From what I had seen he wasnt to be persisted with, but in the frame of playing him vs Derkson...
Lemmey had 1 game where he kicked 7, with is the '1 game' Lods was referring too. However, from the 16 games he played in 2025, he managed 31 goals (1 goal short of 2 goals a game). Thats an upgrade on anything we have currently, and hardly 'one-game'.
But yes, instead we train a guy up as backmen, then try and turn him into a forward.....who hasn't got as many runs on the board. ::)
Harry Lemmey - After all the work that had been put into him by CFC over three (?) years, plus 'some' promising VFL performances (including a 7 goal game), very strange not to have given him a game or two at AFL level. Particularly when there were some weeks we had our key forwards out injured.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 13, 2026, 06:33:16 pm
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Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 13, 2026, 06:43:02 pm
From what I had seen he wasnt to be persisted with, but in the frame of playing him vs Derkson...
Lemmey had 1 game where he kicked 7, with is the '1 game' Lods was referring too. However, from the 16 games he played in 2025, he managed 31 goals (1 goal short of 2 goals a game). Thats an upgrade on anything we have currently, and hardly 'one-game'.
But yes, instead we train a guy up as backmen, then try and turn him into a forward.....who hasn't got as many runs on the board. ::)
Who was training him into a backman then played him as a forward? Wouldnt be our head coach would it.
Of course not ::)
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: MickyO on May 13, 2026, 07:53:54 pm
Lemmey had 1 game where he kicked 7, with is the '1 game' Lods was referring too. However, from the 16 games he played in 2025, he managed 31 goals (1 goal short of 2 goals a game). Thats an upgrade on anything we have currently, and hardly 'one-game'.
But yes, instead we train a guy up as backmen, then try and turn him into a forward.....who hasn't got as many runs on the board. ::)
Who was training him into a backman then played him as a forward? Wouldnt be our head coach would it.
Of course not ::)
Of course it was the head coach, but why do you think that is?
How many key forwards do we actually have on our list? Can't blame the coach for that.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on May 13, 2026, 09:46:48 pm
Lemmey had 1 game where he kicked 7, with is the '1 game' Lods was referring too. However, from the 16 games he played in 2025, he managed 31 goals (1 goal short of 2 goals a game). Thats an upgrade on anything we have currently, and hardly 'one-game'.
But yes, instead we train a guy up as backmen, then try and turn him into a forward.....who hasn't got as many runs on the board. ::)
Who was training him into a backman then played him as a forward? Wouldnt be our head coach would it.
Of course not ::)
actually Kingsley did it first we just pick him up as we needed a mature aged for both ends and shopped at the bargain bin.
Blaming the coach for shifting the magnet he was given is a bit myopic.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 13, 2026, 10:56:44 pm
My understanding was that he was always considered a swingman. Given that, there is absolutely no problem, or justified criticism, playing him either forward or back.
There lies the issue. Derks has a background as a forward. Weitering goes off injured, and what do our geniuses in the box do? Leave derk with young down back. Any chance can we put kemp behind the ball?
I thought exactly the same. I'd like to see Derksen tried up forward.
Derksen has spent a bit of time forward in the VFL, but they've also had him doing a bit of back-up ruck work. He probably needs to have a four or five goal game down there before they give him a chance at senior level. But yep, he could be an option.
The medium/ tall forward brigade also contains a number of forwards who can play back. And now also (especially with the inclusion of Derksen) a number of medium/tall backs who can play forward.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LordLucifer on May 13, 2026, 11:08:45 pm
Play Derksen in the role that Kemp has had up forward and move Kemp back into defence, his kicking for goal on the weekend showed quite clearly that this experiment has failed.
B : Cowan, Dean, Florent HB : Kemp, Weitering, Carroll C : Smith, Cripps, Walsh HF : McGovern, Ainsworth, Derkson F : B. Camporeale, McKay, Hayward R : Pittonet, Hewett, Lord, I/C : Wilson, Ison, O'Keefe, O. Hollands, Newman
IN : Derkson, B. Camporeale, Lord, Ison, O'Keefe OUT : Saad, Haynes, Cerra, Evans, Williams
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Sexybronco on May 14, 2026, 10:27:00 am
Play Derksen in the role that Kemp has had up forward and move Kemp back into defence, his kicking for goal on the weekend showed quite clearly that this experiment has failed.
B : Cowan, Dean, Florent HB : Kemp, Weitering, Carroll C : Smith, Cripps, Walsh HF : McGovern, Ainsworth, Derkson F : B. Camporeale, McKay, Hayward R : Pittonet, Hewett, Lord, I/C : Wilson, Ison, O'Keefe, O. Hollands, Newman
IN : Derkson, B. Camporeale, Lord, Ison, O'Keefe OUT : Saad, Haynes, Cerra, Evans, Williams
Derksen is nowhere as dynamic as Kemp so it’s understandable why we want Kemp as a forward option, albeit he needs to address his kicking woes which are more mental IMO. Derksen is still finding his feet at the level, would love to see him make it and I reckon down back is the right place more him at the moment.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LordLucifer on May 14, 2026, 01:38:06 pm
Derksen kicked 5.2 on the weekend whilst Kemp eked out 0.1.
Most people are completely missing the point here, winning games now is totally irrelevant, we are not going to make finals anyway.
However, what can be salvaged from this trainwreck is a clearer picture of what we have on our playing list.
There are 19-20 players out of contract this year (thanks Nick Austin) meaning that there should be some heavy axings, but who ??
It is imperative that we give some senior games to other players on the list to ascertain who genuinely has a future and who hasn’t.
Besides, we are going nowhere with Saad, Williams & Haynes and they are three of the out of contract guys.
Lets use the remainder of the season as a part building block for the future instead of doing the same crap we have done thus far this season with the same non-performing players.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: dodge on May 14, 2026, 01:43:45 pm
We know that we have been competitive in most games this year. A few have commented about what happens if we do run out this game and win it - with the implication that it was Voss' inability to change things around, only has one game plan.
What happens if we are blown away - is this a sign of Voss' ability to get the most out of a group, but Fraser can't?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on May 14, 2026, 01:47:46 pm
Derksen kicked 5.2 on the weekend whilst Kemp eked out 0.1.
Most people are completely missing the point here, winning games now is totally irrelevant, we are not going to make finals anyway.
However, what can be salvaged from this trainwreck is a clearer picture of what we have on our playing list.
There are 19-20 players out of contract this year (thanks Nick Austin) meaning that there should be some heavy axings, but who ??
It is imperative that we give some senior games to other players on the list to ascertain who genuinely has a future and who hasn’t.
Besides, we are going nowhere with Saad, Williams & Haynes and they are three of the out of contract guys.
Lets use the remainder of the season as a part building block for the future instead of doing the same crap we have done thus far this season with the same non-performing players.
Yeah lets retire players early again, that will make players want to come to us and we can cut their careers short too!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LordLucifer on May 14, 2026, 01:55:45 pm
Yeah lets retire players early again, that will make players want to come to us and we can cut their careers short too!
Okay then, let's perservere with serial offenders who should be in a retirement village.
We have a gaggle of young players on the list who we genuinely don't know if they are worth keeping or not. The only way to find out is by drop-feeding them through the seniors and see how they respond.
And if you are concerned about what effect that may have on our chances of winning a game, then have a look at the current win/loss columns on the ladder, we are third last with one solitary win against the bottom tean by a mere 4-points.
We have played all of the old coots all season and look where that has got us.
FMD, an interim coach is not going to magically turn us into a raging finalist overnight.
As for players not wanting to come to the club ............ BFD, we are going to the draft first off, they have no say in it. As for potential trades, if they don't want to come, once again, BFD !!
Down the track when we are a threat again, we will remind them how they knocked us back as we bury them into the turf.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on May 14, 2026, 02:03:25 pm
Derksen kicked 5.2 on the weekend whilst Kemp eked out 0.1.
Most people are completely missing the point here, winning games now is totally irrelevant, we are not going to make finals anyway.
However, what can be salvaged from this trainwreck is a clearer picture of what we have on our playing list.
There are 19-20 players out of contract this year (thanks Nick Austin) meaning that there should be some heavy axings, but who ??
It is imperative that we give some senior games to other players on the list to ascertain who genuinely has a future and who hasn’t.
Besides, we are going nowhere with Saad, Williams & Haynes and they are three of the out of contract guys.
Lets use the remainder of the season as a part building block for the future instead of doing the same crap we have done thus far this season with the same non-performing players.
Yeah lets retire players early again, that will make players want to come to us and we can cut their careers short too!
I think we spoke about this the other day.
I say we keep those types and trade off ones we get value in - eg Cripps, Harry, Weiters. No point sacking old blokes because they are old. It doesn't help. You 'sack' (trade) old blokes who get you something via trade to help improve your younger crop.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LordLucifer on May 14, 2026, 02:13:38 pm
I say we keep those types and trade off ones we get value in - eg Cripps, Harry, Weiters. No point sacking old blokes because they are old. It doesn't help. You 'sack' (trade) old blokes who get you something via trade to help improve your younger crop.
No point giving the old blokes a contract extension too, if they are out of contract then there is nothing to be gained by keeping all of them around.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: madbluboy on May 14, 2026, 02:17:28 pm
You can get rid of anyone if you bring in good replacements.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on May 14, 2026, 02:18:11 pm
Yeah lets retire players early again, that will make players want to come to us and we can cut their careers short too!
Okay then, let's perservere with serial offenders who should be in a retirement village.
We have a gaggle of young players on the list who we genuinely don't know if they are worth keeping or not. The only way to find out is by drop-feeding them through the seniors and see how they respond.
And if you are concerned about what effect that may have on our chances of winning a game, then have a look at the current win/loss columns on the ladder, we are third last with one solitary win against the bottom tean by a mere 4-points.
We have played all of the old coots all season and look where that has got us.
FMD, an interim coach is not going to magically turn us into a raging finalist overnight.
As for players not wanting to come to the club ............ BFD, we are going to the draft first off, they have no say in it. As for potential trades, if they don't want to come, once again, BFD !!
Down the track when we are a threat again, we will remind them how they knocked us back as we bury them into the turf.
What has been our number 1 issue?
Culture.
Retiring blokes ahead of time, trading blokes for shiny new objects, simply creates the next batch of people who do a Jack Silvagni, Tom De Koning and Charlie Curnow.
WE as an organisation, need to prove that this is not a place for careers to come and die.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on May 14, 2026, 02:27:10 pm
I say we keep those types and trade off ones we get value in - eg Cripps, Harry, Weiters. No point sacking old blokes because they are old. It doesn't help. You 'sack' (trade) old blokes who get you something via trade to help improve your younger crop.
No point giving the old blokes a contract extension too, if they are out of contract then there is nothing to be gained by keeping all of them around.
There is 100% a point, and its been spoken about. Not sure if you've read it, or are ignoring it, but its there.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on May 14, 2026, 02:57:03 pm
Retiring blokes ahead of time, trading blokes for shiny new objects, simply creates the next batch of people who do a Jack Silvagni, Tom De Koning and Charlie Curnow.
WE as an organisation, need to prove that this is not a place for careers to come and die.
Yes, I believe we have a culture issue in the club too but it is coming from our leaders, not the rank & file.
Persisting with old players who are either past it or not playing to the level required (i.e. just don't give a feck) has a strong ripple effect too.
We kept gifting games to guys like Murphy & Gibbs when they didn't deserve it, everyone else became complacent & lived in the comfort zone.
Time to make a strong stand in this area.
Play some of the younger guys each week, give them 3-4 games and then back to the magoos, at the end of the season, the list management team will be in a much better position to make an informed decision.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on May 14, 2026, 04:52:59 pm
Retiring blokes ahead of time, trading blokes for shiny new objects, simply creates the next batch of people who do a Jack Silvagni, Tom De Koning and Charlie Curnow.
WE as an organisation, need to prove that this is not a place for careers to come and die.
Yes, I believe we have a culture issue in the club too but it is coming from our leaders, not the rank & file.
Persisting with old players who are either past it or not playing to the level required (i.e. just don't give a feck) has a strong ripple effect too.
We kept gifting games to guys like Murphy & Gibbs when they didn't deserve it, everyone else became complacent & lived in the comfort zone.
Time to make a strong stand in this area.
Play some of the younger guys each week, give them 3-4 games and then back to the magoos, at the end of the season, the list management team will be in a much better position to make an informed decision.
You don't want older players. You complain about gifting games to younger players and cite Murphy and Gibbs.
So basically is you want a team full of blokes that deserve a game, where gun kids and aging players don't apply.......and you think these blokes are on the list???
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on May 14, 2026, 04:55:13 pm
What list management team?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: madbluboy on May 14, 2026, 05:06:48 pm
Wright (CEO/List Manager) and Davies (Football Manager/Head of Recruitment)
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 14, 2026, 05:36:27 pm
It reminds me a bit of the Whitlam government when it came to power. Whitlam and Lance Barnard the deputy PM divided up all the ministries and basically ran as a two-man government for a couple of weeks. They were that keen to get things done.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 14, 2026, 05:40:16 pm
It reminds me a bit of the Whitlam government when it came to power. Whitlam and Lance Barnard the deputy PM divided up all the ministries and basically ran as a two-man government for a couple of weeks. They were that keen to get things done.
Graham Wright is a bit like Scott Morrison at the end of Covid where he was the Minister for everything....
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LordLucifer on May 14, 2026, 06:06:57 pm
You don't want older players. You complain about gifting games to younger players and cite Murphy and Gibbs.
So basically is you want a team full of blokes that deserve a game, where gun kids and aging players don't apply.......and you think these blokes are on the list???
BZZZTTT .............. wrong !!!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 14, 2026, 06:22:19 pm
One change Ison for Saad Thought there would have been more
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 14, 2026, 06:31:43 pm
I did too, but when you look at it the team probably played it's best football for the year in that second half. They're probably going to see if we can build on that We still have plenty of time to look at the young ones. It's a team designed to win, so we're not heading down the list evaluation track just yet.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: shawny on May 14, 2026, 07:12:22 pm
We know that we have been competitive in most games this year. A few have commented about what happens if we do run out this game and win it - with the implication that it was Voss' inability to change things around, only has one game plan.
What happens if we are blown away - is this a sign of Voss' ability to get the most out of a group, but Fraser can't?
So we rate the stand in coach in one game over a bloke who had 4 and half years???
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on May 14, 2026, 07:26:21 pm
We know that we have been competitive in most games this year. A few have commented about what happens if we do run out this game and win it - with the implication that it was Voss' inability to change things around, only has one game plan.
What happens if we are blown away - is this a sign of Voss' ability to get the most out of a group, but Fraser can't?
So we rate the stand in coach in one game over a bloke who had 4 and half years???
So you don't rate the stand in coach already?
It must eat you up inside that he's basically gone with the same lineup that the incompetent bloke was going with.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 14, 2026, 07:48:23 pm
Dogs without English are vulnerable and Pittonet should cleanup the kid Emmett in the ruck. Don't get the odds on the game either, Dogs have struggled recently and rely heavily on Bont to be BOG every game. Players know now it's judgement time and careers are on the line moving forward and I expect a sugar hit lift for this game and give us a good chance vs a flaky Dogs lineup.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 14, 2026, 08:00:49 pm
Dogs without English are vulnerable and Pittonet should cleanup the kid Emmett in the ruck. Don't get the odds on the game either, Dogs have struggled recently and rely heavily on Bont to be BOG every game. Players know now it's judgement time and careers are on the line moving forward and I expect a sugar hit lift for this game and give us a good chance vs a flaky Dogs lineup.
Yep, over to you fellas. The next bloke in the conga line of evil dark lords is gone, lets see what this team of superstars can do against a depleted Doggies outfit.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on May 14, 2026, 08:47:46 pm
Dogs without English are vulnerable and Pittonet should cleanup the kid Emmett in the ruck. Don't get the odds on the game either, Dogs have struggled recently and rely heavily on Bont to be BOG every game. Players know now it's judgement time and careers are on the line moving forward and I expect a sugar hit lift for this game and give us a good chance vs a flaky Dogs lineup.
the odds reflect that we dont want to win and we are likely to continue imploding.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: crashlander on May 14, 2026, 10:14:53 pm
Our line-up:
B: 14 Oliver Florent 23 Jacob Weitering 26 Nick Haynes HB: 24 Nic Newman 35 Harry Dean 15 Billy Wilson C: 32 Matthew Carroll 9 Patrick Cripps 6 Zac Williams HF: 19 Will Hayward 11 Mitch McGovern 30 Jack Ison F: 17 Brodie Kemp 10 Harry McKay 12 Ben Ainsworth R: 27 Marc Pittonet 5 Adam Cerra 18 Sam Walsh Int: 2 Lachlan Cowan 29 George Hewett 7 Jagga Smith 4 Oliver Hollands 44 Francis Evans Em: 45 Flynn Young 36 Cooper Lord 47 Wade Derksen
Voss, Austin or whoever, I don't really understand our Match Committee far too often. Nichevo.
[1] I like Frankie Evans, but he has struggled for form this year, Yet, do we replace him with a guy who has been in good form? No. By the time Flynn Young gets a game, he won't be in form any longer.
[2] Similar with Adam Cerra: he has struggled to make an impact so far. But he still get a game every week.
[3] Who do we have to put on Bontempelli? He usually feasts on us, because he don't put someone on him.
[4] People were on Kemp's back last week for his worst game of the year. But he has been one of our more effective forwards. His kicking, on the other hand, has been excremental. He has lost game for us by being unable to score from kickable positions. Do we play him in defence? His kicking for goal doesn't matter then. But who will kick our goals?
[5] Having Pitto as an only ruck is a risk. I hope he gives Emmett a bath, but if he doesn't? There is nobody else.
[6] Is Zac Williams fit? He seemed to be struggling to me. I know Saad was injured, but I would have been tempted to play Charleson, who is quick and has been playing well.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on May 14, 2026, 10:26:16 pm
I thought Ison was overdue, so I'm not unhappy, I hope he gets enough of the footy that he can show what he can do by foot.
Charleson had a great VFL game last week, but it was against kids, he needs to attack the footy against some bigger boys in the same fashion before I think he is ready.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: DJC on May 15, 2026, 03:24:55 am
I don't have high expectations but it would be good if we carried on where we left off last week.
I'm looking forward to seeing how Jack Ison goes. He can take a mark against taller opponents, tackles hard and uses the ball well when kicking for goal and passing to teammates.
Good luck young man!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 15, 2026, 08:13:05 am
[1] I like Frankie Evans, but he has struggled for form this year, Yet, do we replace him with a guy who has been in good form? No. By the time Flynn Young gets a game, he won't be in form any longer.
That is a danger with F.Young if his form goes off a bit for a week or two and that coincides with his promotion he may be straight out again. If he gets a chance he needs a block of three to four weeks.
On Evans. He doesn't seem to be impacting as much as he was at the end of last year but I think he's being asked to play a slightly different, more defensive role. He's doing some of the work Fogarty has been doing in the past.
While his personal tackle count may not be great watch for the number of times he's the second man in a tackle, to make sure that tackle is complete, and that keeps the ball in our forward line.
And also, just as an aside, watch the number of times he is absolutely crucified by the umpires, and doesn't receive the free kicks he deserves...or gets pinged in possession when he's had no chance to geet rid of it.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on May 15, 2026, 09:54:27 am
Doug Nicholls round. In a week full of garbage a heart warming watch:
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: DJC on May 15, 2026, 02:39:20 pm
Bob Murphy suggested on the wireless this morning that, if we do win, we shouldn't sing the club song.
I can follow his reasoning but I suspect that it will be a case of "a win is a win" and Jack will get his Gatorade shower if we can get over the Doggies.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: cookie2 on May 15, 2026, 02:49:11 pm
Call me crazy but I’m tipping us this week.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Sexybronco on May 15, 2026, 03:27:58 pm
Bob Murphy suggested on the wireless this morning that, if we do win, we shouldn't sing the club song.
I can follow his reasoning but I suspect that it will be a case of "a win is a win" and Jack will get his Gatorade shower if we can get over the Doggies.
Seriously, that sniffling left wing crackpot should stay in his lane and mind his own business. If we happen to win we should sing the song loud and proud, I’m sure it’s what Vossy would want us to do.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on May 15, 2026, 04:24:46 pm
You crazy bastard, you tip us nearly every week! ;D
That reminds me, we should write to the club and demand a marketing deal with The Cookie Monster, maybe it's the lack of cookie drive that is holding us back, too many satisfied with their lot!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on May 15, 2026, 04:27:07 pm
Bob Murphy suggested on the wireless this morning that, if we do win, we shouldn't sing the club song.
I can follow his reasoning but I suspect that it will be a case of "a win is a win" and Jack will get his Gatorade shower if we can get over the Doggies.
Why?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on May 15, 2026, 04:28:13 pm
As much as I'd like the win, I suspect Bont can nearly defeat us singlehanded. He'll be clearing in from the centre, launching inside F50, contesting at the fall of the ball and crumbing a goal, and we've nobody to stop him!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: PaulP on May 15, 2026, 04:30:57 pm
Bob Murphy suggested on the wireless this morning that, if we do win, we shouldn't sing the club song.
I can follow his reasoning but I suspect that it will be a case of "a win is a win" and Jack will get his Gatorade shower if we can get over the Doggies.
I like Bob Murphy, but I'm a little confused by this suggestion.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on May 15, 2026, 04:34:04 pm
Life is too short not to celebrate the few wins you get in life.
I have no idea what Bob was getting at with this, but the idea that a win shouldnt be celebrated irritates me to no end. We are a team that has sung the song the least out of games played in the last 25 years. Bar none. GC and GWS have a higher winning percentage than we do!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Baggers on May 15, 2026, 04:34:41 pm
Bob Murphy suggested on the wireless this morning that, if we do win, we shouldn't sing the club song.
I can follow his reasoning but I suspect that it will be a case of "a win is a win" and Jack will get his Gatorade shower if we can get over the Doggies.
Seriously, that sniffling left wing crackpot should stay in his lane and mind his own business. If we happen to win we should sing the song loud and proud, I’m sure it’s what Vossy would want us to do.
Yep, exactly what Vossy would want for his boys.
Hard to imagine a more inane or puerile comment than what Bob M came out with. Ponce.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on May 15, 2026, 04:38:08 pm
Bob, give back the medal you spud, you did feck all on the day!
One rule for them all, except for him, he's special!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: madbluboy on May 15, 2026, 04:48:33 pm
Best centre square combo in the comp is English, Bont, Kennedy and Richards.
The loss of English will effect that.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 15, 2026, 04:51:26 pm
Murphy should stick to cleaning up his radio on air behaviour and respecting his co-workers. He should stick to subjects he knows more about like staffing at his local Spearmint Rhino ...
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Sexybronco on May 15, 2026, 05:13:30 pm
Murphy should stick to cleaning up his radio on air behaviour and respecting his co-workers. He should stick to subjects he knows more about like staffing at his local Spearmint Rhino ...
Bang!!! He can do whatever he likes as long as he stays out of our business.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on May 15, 2026, 06:11:41 pm
I didn't hear Murphys suggestion, but if i was to guess at why he was suggesting it, it would be because its in bad taste. Dancing on the grave of Vossy.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 15, 2026, 06:13:27 pm
I didn't hear Murphys suggestion, but if i was to guess at why he was suggesting it, it would be because its in bad taste. Dancing on the grave of Vossy.
I d suggest Murphy is in no position of credibility to lecture the Carlton Football club on bad taste...
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on May 15, 2026, 06:18:16 pm
I didn't hear Murphys suggestion, but if i was to guess at why he was suggesting it, it would be because its in bad taste. Dancing on the grave of Vossy.
I d suggest Murphy is in no position of credibility to lecture the Carlton Football club on bad taste...
I'm apathetic towards him.
Just trying to give potential insight as it appears to not be clear.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Lods on May 15, 2026, 06:44:54 pm
He's barking up the wrong tree if he thinks it would be disrespectful to Voss. Voss is the sort of character that would probably be happy to see them get a win. Has a club ever not sang the song after a win, when the coach has been discarded.
If we had a win tomorrow night it would not be proof that Voss was a bad coach. Just as if we had a big loss it wouldn't mean he was propping up a poor list. Real assessments will take many weeks, and even then we may never really know. Once you take a decision to part ways you lose the opportunity to "see how things would have turned out". The coach will change, and there are suggestions that we may lose some high profile players in order to give us the draft capital to shake up the list.
There will be a lot of emotion in the side this week, and we won't know which Carlton will turn up. Individual players may be affected differently, Some may feel a a bit of extra freedom, released from some of the roles they've been asked to play. Others may feel a little flat after losing a coach they liked. We really don't know what to expect and either result wouldn't surprise.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 15, 2026, 08:08:23 pm
As much as I'd like the win, I suspect Bont can nearly defeat us singlehanded. He'll be clearing in from the centre, launching inside F50, contesting at the fall of the ball and crumbing a goal, and we've nobody to stop him!
He's on one leg mate, ease up.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 15, 2026, 08:09:45 pm
Bob Murphy suggested on the wireless this morning that, if we do win, we shouldn't sing the club song.
I can follow his reasoning but I suspect that it will be a case of "a win is a win" and Jack will get his Gatorade shower if we can get over the Doggies.
Seriously, that sniffling left wing crackpot should stay in his lane and mind his own business. If we happen to win we should sing the song loud and proud, I’m sure it’s what Vossy would want us to do.
A bigger lefty f-wit you will not meet.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 15, 2026, 08:11:05 pm