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Title: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: crashlander on May 28, 2026, 09:42:29 pm
Our last time on TV for a while. To be honest, I'm not unhappy with that.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: laj on May 29, 2026, 10:23:35 pm
Farrrrrrkkk! That was so hard on the ticker.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: laj on May 29, 2026, 10:23:57 pm
Our last time on TV for a while. To be honest, I'm not unhappy with that.
No mind change?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: kruddler on May 29, 2026, 10:24:49 pm
Farrrrrrkkk! That was so hard on the ticker.

Called it.

Trying to kill off its supporters.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: cookie2 on May 29, 2026, 10:25:55 pm
Farrrrrrkkk! That was so hard on the ticker.
How did we do that??? Time for a third large whisky.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: laj on May 29, 2026, 10:26:57 pm
 Since their premiership we have beaten them 4 times out of 5. The one we lost by 2 goals we had 12 blokes out.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: rocky on May 29, 2026, 10:27:15 pm
I cannot believe it.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: laj on May 29, 2026, 10:28:05 pm
Farrrrrrkkk! That was so hard on the ticker.
How did we do that??? Time for a third large whisky.
and 4th, 5th and 6th...lol.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: shawny on May 29, 2026, 10:28:09 pm
What a game. Be amazing when we can win big games without the heart in the mouth stuff. Cripps was massive again and is our heart and soul and talk of trading him is nonsense. how much better does he look with the kids speed around him.

And watch the media jump on board our kids this week.

Great way to start the weekend.

Scotch time to calm the heart rate.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: kruddler on May 29, 2026, 10:31:51 pm
I reckon i'd be happy playing the cats 22 games a year.

We probably have a better record against them then the other 16 teams over the past few years.
No idea why....but don't really care.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: pertz on May 29, 2026, 10:33:23 pm
Fantastic gutsy win.
But not good for the ticker !
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Milhanna13 on May 29, 2026, 10:33:48 pm
Gotta admit, I didn’t technically see the winning goal.  I was hiding behind the couch.  Couldn’t bring myself to watch it - was NOT confident of it going thru
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: laj on May 29, 2026, 10:36:37 pm
Farrrrrrkkk! That was so hard on the ticker.

Called it.

Trying to kill off its supporters.
I'm 70 next year. I nearly didn't get to see it...lol.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Bluesers on May 29, 2026, 10:36:40 pm
Great Win.      I think this just reinforces though what I, and some others,  have been saying for a few months now.
1.    Voss can't coach
2.    Voss had lost a large portion of the playing group  -  they didn't want to play for him,  the effort just wasn't there.

3/3  since his departure says a lot about that,  GW and co are probably now regretting the decision to let him continue into this year.

This win over one of the flag fancies just shows what our group is capable of once their heart is back in it.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: shawny on May 29, 2026, 10:39:45 pm
Fraser just said we have to acknowledge vossy for the pressure and commitment side of the group and he has tried to add the connections after we win the ball and how to move the ball when we have it and how to defend when we dont.

Perfect summary - respect and acknowledge what voss has done and now the next stage to evolve the other areas that are just as critical and where we were lacking.

Also wasnt as quick to dismiss his hat being in the future coaching role and if we keep winning it will be interesting to see the outcome.

How good is Dean. Just love this kid. Has to get his nomination this week.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: laj on May 29, 2026, 10:40:15 pm
Fantastic gutsy win.
But not good for the ticker !
That was as hard on the ticker as the two finals wins and they were murderous.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: kruddler on May 29, 2026, 10:40:56 pm
We have just leapfrogged Port on the ladder....who thanks to the bye will be a game behind and chance to catch up in a couple week when we have our bye.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: laj on May 29, 2026, 10:41:31 pm
Right now, 6pts off a wildcard. Sides to play still. We have Essendon, GWS, WC here, and Richmond to come the next 4 games.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: kruddler on May 29, 2026, 10:42:31 pm
Right now, 6pts off a wildcard. Sides to play still. We have Essendon, GWS, WC here, and Richmond to come the next 4 games.

Odds before the game for the flag was 251-1.
Now 151-1.
 :))
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: laj on May 29, 2026, 10:44:33 pm
Right now, 6pts off a wildcard. Sides to play still. We have Essendon, GWS, WC here, and Richmond to come the next 4 games.

Odds before the game for the flag was 251-1.
Now 151-1.
 :))
Might as well do it spectacularly and win it from 10th...lol.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: kruddler on May 29, 2026, 10:44:43 pm
P. Cripps - 3 votes
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: LordLucifer on May 29, 2026, 10:47:03 pm
Well bugger me !!!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: MickyO on May 29, 2026, 10:47:55 pm
What a game! How impressive are these young kids!!!  The commitment ti create contest time and again - bloody bravo 👏🏽

Walsh and Jagga really impressed - Cowan is just so important for us, the composure in the last 5 mins - it felt different, they didn’t crap themselves.

You could see the happiness and heads back in rhe game for our old guys!

And P Cripps take a bow - what a mark, what a kick - what a CARLTON LEGEND 🙌
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: MickyO on May 29, 2026, 10:48:42 pm
Just absolutely love him 🙌
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: blueboys_1 on May 29, 2026, 10:48:51 pm
Did not go, wish I had of now. The feeling at the ground would of been unreal.
I imagine like the win against Melbourne in the 2nd semi to get into the PF in 2023.
Patrick Cripps you are a legend.
Go blues.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: kruddler on May 29, 2026, 10:50:59 pm
Pittonet - 26 hitouts - 10 to advantage.  That is beyond elite.

I think he and Harry as a ruck duo is the best option for this team going forward.
Frees up Harry and gets him into the game more.
Harrys best 4 games have been the last 4 games where he has been backup ruck.

Midfield benefitted from both tonight.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: PaulP on May 29, 2026, 10:52:00 pm
Great Win.      I think this just reinforces though what I, and some others,  have been saying for a few months now.
1.    Voss can't coach
2.    Voss had lost a large portion of the playing group  -  they didn't want to play for him,  the effort just wasn't there.

3/3  since his departure says a lot about that,  GW and co are probably now regretting the decision to let him continue into this year.

This win over one of the flag fancies just shows what our group is capable of once their heart is back in it.

Stats king Daniel Hoyne :
Carlton has been building to this for several weeks

Every Carlton player interviewed since that Voss left, which includes but not limited to Smith, Cripps and Walsh :
Carlton has been building to this for several weeks

Interim coach Fraser : Carlton has been building to this for several weeks

Man on internet :  ::)
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: blueboys_1 on May 29, 2026, 10:54:06 pm
Listening to the ABC broadcast and they said that Carlton kept their shape and composer and did not allow Geelong the space that they like. I have not seen the game yet so would like a rundown of what they did well and how the game plan has changed or what is been executed better under Josh since he took over?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: laj on May 29, 2026, 10:58:50 pm
Great Win.      I think this just reinforces though what I, and some others,  have been saying for a few months now.
1.    Voss can't coach
2.    Voss had lost a large portion of the playing group  -  they didn't want to play for him,  the effort just wasn't there.

3/3  since his departure says a lot about that,  GW and co are probably now regretting the decision to let him continue into this year.

This win over one of the flag fancies just shows what our group is capable of once their heart is back in it.

Stats king Daniel Hoyne :
Carlton has been building to this for several weeks

Every Carlton player interviewed since that Voss left, which includes but not limited to Smith, Cripps and Walsh :
Carlton has been building to this for several weeks

Interim coach Fraser : Carlton has been building to this for several weeks

Man on internet :  ::)
Leave all that. Enjoy the win. Everyone is excited no matter which side they were on and good on them.

@#$#! yeah!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: kruddler on May 29, 2026, 10:58:57 pm
Listening to the ABC broadcast and they said that Carlton kept their shape and composer and did not allow Geelong the space that they like. I have not seen the game yet so would like a rundown of what they did well and how the game plan has changed or what is been executed better under Josh since he took over?

In a word.....pressure.

Players were running contest to contest. Didn't allow Geelong time to breathe.

Geelong were doing the normal 15m chip kicks to free players, the second they took the mark, there was a bloke there.
Normally, they'd be trailing and casually coming to the mark.
We didn't give them any time or space. As a result, they made more mistakes than they may have otherwise....some under very little pressure, but because we were constantly up in their face, they expected it and were rushed.

Cowan playing on Jezza Cameron all game was something nobody was expecting, while Jezza still kicked 3-4, Cowan won plenty of contests and allowed us to free up Weitering a bit more.

But overall, it was simply pressure.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: madbluboy on May 29, 2026, 10:59:18 pm
The last 3 weeks we haven't really given up control in the middle. Which hasn't given an.opportunity for an avalanche against us.

Hayward has got back to his best
Billy Wilson has brought run an carry.
Ison and Young have brought energy up forward.

Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: laj on May 29, 2026, 11:00:38 pm
You didn't really say "bugger"...haha.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: townsendcalling on May 29, 2026, 11:00:46 pm
Pittonet and McKay were enormous, the move of Big Harry into the ruck has worked a treat!!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: kruddler on May 29, 2026, 11:02:13 pm
Ison is a smart footballer. Several times he had a quick tap rather than a gather and then be tackled.

I would really like to see him and Moir in the side together who plays with similar vision and flair.
Those 2 working together could yield some magic similar to the krakour brothers from back in the day.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: shawny on May 29, 2026, 11:02:30 pm
6 kids tonight under 12 games played 😳

We match up well against Geelong but never beaten them with this amount youth on the park.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: madbluboy on May 29, 2026, 11:03:16 pm
Chris mentioned the non goal within 20 seconds
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: kruddler on May 29, 2026, 11:04:09 pm
Scott spending most of his press conference talking about the goal that wasn't.
"I don't want to comment.....but...."
"What i think doesn't matter.....but...."
"I'm not spending any time thinking about it....but....."

....but spends all his time talking about it.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 29, 2026, 11:06:01 pm
Well I did not see that fightback, and right until the end, coming. I thought we were going to get run over. When Henry kicked that goal, I thought we were done. I didnt expect Superman to go and mark that goal in the square and kick the winning goal. I cant remember the last time thats happened to us.
How good is Jagga?
Thrilling win, Well done, Go Blues.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: rocky on May 29, 2026, 11:08:31 pm
Chris mentioned the non goal within 20 seconds
What a surprise that that tosser would harp on that way longer than need be. Flog.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: madbluboy on May 29, 2026, 11:09:46 pm
Now he's complaining about the fixture lol.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: townsendcalling on May 29, 2026, 11:11:35 pm
I've even blocked out the fact that Josh Fraser used to play for the dark side!!!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 29, 2026, 11:11:45 pm
Great Win.      I think this just reinforces though what I, and some others,  have been saying for a few months now.
1.    Voss can't coach
2.    Voss had lost a large portion of the playing group  -  they didn't want to play for him,  the effort just wasn't there.

3/3  since his departure says a lot about that,  GW and co are probably now regretting the decision to let him continue into this year.

This win over one of the flag fancies just shows what our group is capable of once their heart is back in it.
Really mate?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: kruddler on May 29, 2026, 11:13:33 pm
80% of his press conference was talking about anything but the actual game.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: 31Tommys_barber on May 29, 2026, 11:14:33 pm
What I liked best watching the last two minutes again was that each individual focused on the moment and did their job where Geelong kept throwing their arms in the air appealing for free kicks and whinging instead of the task of winning the ball without the umpires help.
I think that focus is the difference in a win or loss in tight games..
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Bluesers on May 29, 2026, 11:23:28 pm
Great Win.      I think this just reinforces though what I, and some others,  have been saying for a few months now.
1.    Voss can't coach
2.    Voss had lost a large portion of the playing group  -  they didn't want to play for him,  the effort just wasn't there.

3/3  since his departure says a lot about that,  GW and co are probably now regretting the decision to let him continue into this year.

This win over one of the flag fancies just shows what our group is capable of once their heart is back in it.
Really mate?

Yes really...
Apparently  Adam Simpson is going to Josh Fraser's house tomorrow for a barbeque. 
Coincidence?....
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: bratblue on May 29, 2026, 11:43:14 pm
They had something like 20 more hit outs than us but we had one more than them to advantage. says a lot about our rucks and more so our contested ball set ups. we're still elite there.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Thryleon on May 29, 2026, 11:44:54 pm
Crippa back to his best is the difference.  Jagga emerging helps, walsh is starting to find career best form too.

Pittonet is a competitor but he isnt a great of the game, no matter how you spin it. 
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: LP on May 30, 2026, 12:15:21 am
They had something like 20 more hit outs than us but we had one more than them to advantage. says a lot about our rucks and more so our contested ball set ups. we're still elite there.
Not really, thought it was Harry's best ruck heavy type game by some margin.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: kruddler on May 30, 2026, 12:18:24 am
They had something like 20 more hit outs than us but we had one more than them to advantage. says a lot about our rucks and more so our contested ball set ups. we're still elite there.
Not really, thought it was Harry's best ruck heavy type game by some margin.

Ruck contests went about 2/3rds pitto 1/3 harry.
Taps to advantage was 10 to 1 though.
Harry did some work on the ground and i highlighted as much in game. But pure ruckwork he is a long way behind.

Swap put pitto for reidy and we lose that game.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: crashlander on May 30, 2026, 12:27:55 am
I reckon i'd be happy playing the cats 22 games a year.

We probably have a better record against them then the other 16 teams over the past few years.
No idea why....but don't really care.
Indeed. Let them play us and the Giants more often: they can't beat either of us!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: crashlander on May 30, 2026, 12:30:56 am
Fraser just said we have to acknowledge vossy for the pressure and commitment side of the group and he has tried to add the connections after we win the ball and how to move the ball when we have it and how to defend when we dont.

Perfect summary - respect and acknowledge what voss has done and now the next stage to evolve the other areas that are just as critical and where we were lacking.

Also wasnt as quick to dismiss his hat being in the future coaching role and if we keep winning it will be interesting to see the outcome.

How good is Dean. Just love this kid. Has to get his nomination this week.
How Dean has not been nominated so far defies imagination. He is never going to get 30 possessions: that is not why he is there. Instead, you see him beating experienced forwards, week in, week out. Deserves his kudos as the best defender from last year's crop.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: crashlander on May 30, 2026, 12:34:33 am
Pittonet and McKay were enormous, the move of Big Harry into the ruck has worked a treat!!
We really got on top when H was in the middle. He didn't win a lot of taps, but he got 5 clearances himself and he helped our smaller players get the ball out.
H's kicking ... well, everyone needs to improve something.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: crashlander on May 30, 2026, 12:36:03 am
Scott spending most of his press conference talking about the goal that wasn't.
"I don't want to comment.....but...."
"What i think doesn't matter.....but...."
"I'm not spending any time thinking about it....but....."

....but spends all his time talking about it.
I am not surprised. He is not a good loser and never has been.
I'm just glad he gets to taste it from us!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: crashlander on May 30, 2026, 12:43:58 am
I really thought their better skills were going to make them snatch this one. But our relentless pressure was marvellous to behold!

Ground ball gets: we dominated.
Contested possessions: take out their marks, then we win by more than 20!
One-percenters: Even after our first quarter and after all their smothers, we still win it convincingly.
Tackles inside 50: we had 14, they had 9. Imagine what would happen if we could hit a target, as most of their scores came after our turnovers!
Clearances, centre clearances and stoppage clearances, we dominate, even after being well behind early.
Taps to advantage: in our favour clearly, even though we had less taps.

We couldn't buy a goal, missing a huge number of easy shots. They kick goals they have no right to kick, and we still win!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: RiverRat on May 30, 2026, 12:48:40 am
They had something like 20 more hit outs than us but we had one more than them to advantage. says a lot about our rucks and more so our contested ball set ups. we're still elite there.
I thought Pitto's centre ball-up contests in the 2nd half were instrumental in our centre clearance work - I don't think I have seen Pitto get off the ground in those contests as effectively
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: crashlander on May 30, 2026, 12:58:19 am
Looking at the possessions:
Sam Walsh: 30 possessions, 7 tackles, 7 clearances: Walsh was awful early, but he picked himself up and played on Bailey Smith, not only negating him, but providing huge drive. Smith had more ball, but his kicks weren't effective, even in the first quarter, when he got most of them. When it came to doing the hard things, it was Sam Walsh who stood up.

Patrick Cripps: 30 possessions, 4 tackles, 8 clearances and the mark and goal that won the game: Crippa was also ordinary early. He couldn't get his hand on the ball. But he kept working and kept working until we dominated the centre square. Who stepped up when it was needed? Patrick Cripps!

Jagga Smith: 27 possessions, 6 clearances and 3 tackles. Like the two previous players, Jagga had a nightmare early. he turned the ball over with poor kicks and ordinary decision making, he dropped marks, he got spoilt. But, like the rest, he kept coming. His kicks suddenly hit targets. He got clearances. He provided dash.

Geelong didn't have any players like this. It was Smith or nothing for them, and he doesn't use the ball well. Our Smith showed him how to kick.

Ben Ainsworth: 25 possessions, 2 clearances and 4 tackles: Ben might not have been as obvious as some of his teammates, but he was no less effective. That was a big game.

Cerra and Hewett weren't as prolific, but both of them were important and played crucial roles. Our midfield had a good night after a very ordinary start.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: crashlander on May 30, 2026, 01:03:27 am
They had something like 20 more hit outs than us but we had one more than them to advantage. says a lot about our rucks and more so our contested ball set ups. we're still elite there.
I thought Pitto's centre ball-up contests in the 2nd half were instrumental in our centre clearance work - I don't think I have seen Pitto get off the ground in those contests as effectively
Indeed, Pitto really lifted in the 2nd half. He just belted the ball early, and that rarely ended up to our advantage. He didn't get huge numbers after half time, but he blunted his opponents, he got possessions, and his taps ended up with our players.
Pitto ended with 3 clearances himself, which was more than Bailey Smith. Only 2 Geelong players did better. All of our mids did.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: crashlander on May 30, 2026, 01:10:38 am
Our defence struggled early with loose checking upfield, giving them easy, uncontested possessions. But when they lost midfield dominance, our defenders were excellent.

Jacob Weitering probably played his best game for the year. He got possessions, he thrashed his opponents, he took relieving marks and he didn't turn the ball over. 19 possessions and 11 marks.

Harry Dean: he needs to be nominated for the best 1st year player, as he dominated his opponents on the night. He couldn't help a couple of freak goals, but he got 15 possessions, 9 marks and 4 tackles.

Nick Haynes and Nic Newman continued their good form. Cowan had 4 kicked on him, but he had 20 possessions and wasn't poor. Florent made some poor disposals early, but he tightened up marvellously.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Blue Moon on May 30, 2026, 07:23:05 am
We should always be on TV, we are the soap opera of the AFL, we are Days of our Blues. Ex-president in court, Coach resigns, the AFL change the Draft Rules, our Captain looks broken, we are down and out, and then we start partying like its 2023 all over again.
Despite making so many errors in throughout this game, and despite it was heart in your mouth  so many times as we rushed forward, the players kept fighting. You can follow a team that has a go.
Instead of always going long and high to the top of the goal square we came into our forward line from all angles and even though it wasn't pretty, Geelong's defence was separated, and in the end, even though they marked everything that went into our F50 until they didn't, we went long and quick to a one on one in our goal square and Cripps marked the ball, kicked the goal and we won the game.
I can't remember the last time Cripps jumped for a mark. If he starts doing that around the ground he could go to another level. Hayward,  Florent and Ainsworth have given us more depth, Cerra, Acres and Newman all made errors with ball in hand but they all stood up when it counted. McKay, Weitering, Walsh and Cripps are leading the team and now the others are following.
I look forward to seeing the likes of Moir, the Camporeales, Hok and Hof, Motlop, Chesser and O'Reilly  in the future.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 30, 2026, 07:27:01 am
How good is waking up on a Sat morning after a win? Having slept very well, I thought about some of the efforts last night:
- Fair is fair, Cripps, Walsh and Weitering were enormous last night. Led from the front and the kids followed.
- In particular, Walsh seemed to be everywhere. His running power has returned.
- Cowan - toughest job in football but gave it his all. We all know if Cameron gets a hold of a defence he can kick bags, really big bags. Moo gave away a few kegs and cm but fought tooth and nail to nullify Cameron as much as possible.
- Hard to tell on TV but after thinking Florent was quiet during the first qtr or two, he seemed to be tagging Dangerfield. Or maybe Danger was trying to negate Florent, either way Dangerfield can dine out on us and was held to a dozen possession and one goal.
- The tackling and pressure went through the roof after qtr time which warmed the cockles of my heart. THATS the standard.
- Jagga - what a player we have on our hands. I can now see the comparisons people made to Naicos in his draft year. Seems to go up a notch the tougher the opposition. This kid has maturity and desire to win beyond his years and I now think he will captain our club one day.
Room for improvement
- Lower those kicks FFS. They looked for Jagga at every opportunity to create and distribute but I thought some of the kicks to him were going to get him clobbered and injured. Those loopy kicks are suicide in modern footy, we seem to fix it for the most part after qtr time, Fraser need to address it.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 30, 2026, 07:29:48 am
We should always be on TV, we are the soap opera of the AFL, we are Days of our Blues. Ex-president in court, Coach resigns, the AFL change the Draft Rules, our Captain looks broken, we are down and out, and then we start partying like its 2023 all over again.
Despite making so many errors in throughout this game, and despite it was heart in your mouth  so many times as we rushed forward, the players kept fighting. You can follow a team that has a go.
Instead of always going long and high to the top of the goal square we came into our forward line from all angles and even though it wasn't pretty, Geelong's defence was separated, and in the end, even though they marked everything that went into our F50 until they didn't, we went long and quick to a one on one in our goal square and Cripps marked the ball, kicked the goal and we won the game.
I can't remember the last time Cripps jumped for a mark. If he starts doing that around the ground he could go to another level. Hayward,  Florent and Ainsworth have given us more depth, Cerra, Acres and Newman all made errors with ball in hand but they all stood up when it counted. McKay, Weitering, Walsh and Cripps are leading the team and now the others are following.
I look forward to seeing the likes of Moir, the Camporeales, Hok and Hof, Motlop, Chesser and O'Reilly  in the future.
I cant remember the last time I saw one of our fwds flying for a mark at the top of the square to win a game off his boot. Out marked J Cameron no less. He needs to do this more.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Lods on May 30, 2026, 07:42:37 am
Out marked J Cameron no less. He needs to do this more.

Yep
Just noticed this on a replay.
It was Cameron in the one-on-one.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Thryleon on May 30, 2026, 08:10:13 am
I think we are seeing what jagga emerging does.  At half time the cats were worried about jagga after he had a monster quarter and decided to put time into him instead of walsh and cripps and then cripps got room to go beast mode.

Up until the last few weeks jagga has been going well but not able to sustain 4 quarters and now thats changing we are in good stead. 

Frankie Evans played a game for the ages too.  Hes too good not to get another gig next year.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: tex on May 30, 2026, 08:10:26 am
Idk how to add a pic, but ison, young, byrne all bottom 3 possession getters for us.
The difference is that they each scored a goal (or 2).
Compare to fantasia, Owies, Motlop etc who would have zero impact.

Tbh, I don’t want Motlop back in this team.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Lods on May 30, 2026, 08:18:25 am
There is a fair bit of wailing and gnashing of teeth over the "goal that wasn't" amongst Geelong folk and some media commentators.
"Cost them the game"
There was deflection, on the part of Scott, who "didn't want to dwell on it" all through the parts of his press conference that I saw.

If that had occurred in the last minute of the game that might have had some validity, even then Cripps probably would have bobbed up and kicked two instead of one :D  :D

But occurring when it did, it opened up "multiple universes" where a whole range of results became possible.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Lods on May 30, 2026, 08:27:57 am
Frankie Evans played a game for the ages too.  Hes too good not to get another gig next year.

We probably judge Frank a bit harshly because we're comparing his contribution to his somewhat 'flashy' games at the end of last year.
But this year he's doing a power of work on the defensive side of things. There was a 'two on one' effort on their goal line last night that was sensational.
Watch him closely and you'll see him run from contest to contest providing pressure and also coming in as second man in tackles to make sure the ball doesn't come out and stays in the area.
While not a huge possession winner some of his passes go like "tracer bullets."
And he gets half the free kicks he actually deserves.
He goes alright, does Frankie...and it's strange to see him on 'delist' lists.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Thryleon on May 30, 2026, 08:35:33 am
I saw that contest.  It was him vs Jeremy Cameron and I reckon the other one was another tall, and some how he halved it by just throwing his body in there.

Was match winning stuff and we were up at thr time i think with about 5 mins left.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: BluePhantom on May 30, 2026, 08:37:13 am
Cowan was given the toughest job in football, manning Jezza. Gave away height and kgs but even though Jezza kicked 4, it was a win for us because it freed up Weiters and Deano from being pulled higher up the ground.
Great coaching tactics.
I loved that quick handball in traffic from Ison to Hayward for that goal, very clean.
Love the fight, all these years,  ALL these years of giving up without a yelp. Very hard to support that.
If they show fight, spirit and character and still lose you can accept it.
So I am enjoying this new brand of Carlton or is it just Carlton of old finally getting off the canvas, because this feels different.
Go Blues.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 30, 2026, 08:39:09 am
Frankie Evans played a game for the ages too.  Hes too good not to get another gig next year.

We probably judge Frank a bit harshly because we're comparing his contribution to his somewhat 'flashy' games at the end of last year.
But this year he's doing a power of work on the defensive side of things. There was a 'two on one' effort on their goal line last night that was sensational.
Watch him closely and you'll see him run from contest to contest providing pressure and also coming in as second man in tackles to make sure the ball doesn't come out and stays in the area.
While not a huge possession winner some of his passes go like "tracer bullets."
And he gets half the free kicks he actually deserves.
He goes alright, does Frankie...and it's strange to see him on 'delist' lists.
He won the meat tray on Fox, he's a strange one, bit of a chameleon who goes unnoticed but is a huge contributor. I think if you listen to Crippa's comment about Byrne and how he laid big a bump that resulted in a goal. He said he's a tough little bugger and he will keep getting picked if he keeps doing those things. Franky is in the same boat, that effort to beat two Geel players in their goal square (Cameron and Blicavs maybe?), that was huge. His dart to Young in the pocket. He lifts when needed.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: BluePhantom on May 30, 2026, 08:43:37 am
Credit also goes to Flynn kicks 2 goals, almost 3 in a quarter with quick snaps. Lethal left foot and good goal sense.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: madbluboy on May 30, 2026, 08:49:08 am
I saw that contest.  It was him vs Jeremy Cameron and I reckon the other one was another tall, and some how he halved it by just throwing his body in there.

Was match winning stuff and we were up at thr time i think with about 5 mins left.

Cameron and Blicavs
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Professer E on May 30, 2026, 08:50:51 am
Frank uses the ball as well as anybody in the team, spots up team mates inside F50 with nail drivers.  Billy and Ison also kick hard and flat.
Game plan has changed to use more angles rather than mindless pumping it long stuff, if only we could execute better and finish efficiently.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: bratblue on May 30, 2026, 10:30:43 am
Great to wake up and read the comments on here , I had a big night. Our half time fade outs are a distant memory now and don't look like coming back. This club is weird. Is this '23 all over again? Time to start watching the ladder.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Baggers on May 30, 2026, 10:31:59 am
Relentless. Never dropped our heads. Tackling pressure - magnificent. Kids through to leaders - bravo. To C Scott and his whining - get st*ffed.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: bratblue on May 30, 2026, 10:45:42 am
Relentless. Never dropped our heads. Tackling pressure - magnificent. Kids through to leaders - bravo. To C Scott and his whining - get st*ffed.

Scott knows how to play the media and that wanker Ralph who thinks he knows something about the game. I didn't mind Scotts interview after the game, he carried on not really saying much or anything apart from the non goal ad nauseum. He protects his players and the opposition players as if they exist in another universe.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Shakin77 on May 30, 2026, 10:47:49 am
How good was the Byrne’s tackle!   He is going to be a great impact player
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Lods on May 30, 2026, 10:49:41 am
There was one bloke who wasn't feeling it like the rest of us. :D  :D

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1509359814221775

Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: laj on May 30, 2026, 10:52:49 am
Kouta and Ange were pretty happy. Just waiting for SEN Blues Radio YouTube with Andy Maher.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2164071224166215
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: blueboys_1 on May 30, 2026, 10:58:50 am
Listening to the ABC broadcast and they said that Carlton kept their shape and composer and did not allow Geelong the space that they like. I have not seen the game yet so would like a rundown of what they did well and how the game plan has changed or what is been executed better under Josh since he took over?

In a word.....pressure.

Players were running contest to contest. Didn't allow Geelong time to breathe.

Geelong were doing the normal 15m chip kicks to free players, the second they took the mark, there was a bloke there.
Normally, they'd be trailing and casually coming to the mark.
We didn't give them any time or space. As a result, they made more mistakes than they may have otherwise....some under very little pressure, but because we were constantly up in their face, they expected it and were rushed.

Cowan playing on Jezza Cameron all game was something nobody was expecting, while Jezza still kicked 3-4, Cowan won plenty of contests and allowed us to free up Weitering a bit more.

But overall, it was simply pressure.

Thanks Krud. That's the impression I got from listening to the broadcast.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: blueboys_1 on May 30, 2026, 11:05:16 am
Ison is a smart footballer. Several times he had a quick tap rather than a gather and then be tackled.

I would really like to see him and Moir in the side together who plays with similar vision and flair.
Those 2 working together could yield some magic similar to the krakour brothers from back in the day.

Yes agree. My concern is that Moir, as talented as he is, may not have the desire and hunger that is required to make a AFL footballer. Could he of been so talented as a young player that he never really had to work as hard for the football as others because of his talent and this is now catching up with him at this level.
If his desire was as good as his football talent would he be playing more senior football?
Don't know? Comments anyone?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: MickyO on May 30, 2026, 11:21:40 am
There was one bloke who wasn't feeling it like the rest of us. :D  :D

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1509359814221775
I listened to MMM just before half time.
BT and Montagna both basically saying Geelong was cruising - in fact at half time BT said gee not a great game for Cats, Blues are being stubborn.  We had just kicked 4 to 2 i believe. Then they said youd expect Geelong to go on with it here 🤪 like commentate without bias. Sick of listening to such poor commentating
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Bluesers on May 30, 2026, 11:25:44 am
There is a fair bit of wailing and gnashing of teeth over the "goal that wasn't" amongst Geelong folk and some media commentators.
"Cost them the game"
There was deflection, on the part of Scott, who "didn't want to dwell on it" all through the parts of his press conference that I saw.

If that had occurred in the last minute of the game that might have had some validity, even then Cripps probably would have bobbed up and kicked two instead of one :D  :D

But occurring when it did, it opened up "multiple universes" where a whole range of results became possible.

If Geelong couldn't beat a bottom 4 side without relying on a 'missed' goal then they didn't deserve the win  -  but it was a handball so doesn;t count anyway,  but nobody mentions that.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: MickyO on May 30, 2026, 11:26:10 am
Did anyone see better vision of Cripps’ goal? Was it close to
Missing or did it go straight thru the middle?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: MickyO on May 30, 2026, 11:27:26 am
Also remiss not to give a huge shout out to Hayward! Seems like hes a mouthy little
Mongrel and i love it! We have been wanting some players with a bit of energy about them - hes our guy!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: LP on May 30, 2026, 11:38:13 am
Ruck contests went about 2/3rds pitto 1/3 harry.
Taps to advantage was 10 to 1 though.
Harry did some work on the ground and i highlighted as much in game. But pure ruckwork he is a long way behind.

Swap put pitto for reidy and we lose that game.
Don't care about the stats, Harry had a real 2nd effort presence and was putting himself in useful positions, stopping Geelong from too easily spreading which interferes with the opposition's ability to stand tight to our other Mids. Even when the Handbaggers won the footy they were forced sideways and backwards more often than not, trying to go around Harry or Pitto, and by not releasing that pressure / delay it means we don't suffer the horrible momentum swing against us. If fans just look at the stats, they'll come to the complete wrong conclusion. We kept hearing from the commentary how the Handbaggers would go through the middle, and when they tried it they failed.

FWIW, Harry and for that matter any other AFL KPPs are always going to struggle to be a marking influence against a team of Scott's Tunnel Kings, they are the best at it in the league as Kemp found out. Take the front position and they gently nudge you under the footy with a subtle raise of the knee into your hip, butt or back, take the back position and a team-mate will block your run at the footy. You basically need to do what Cripps did in the dying moments and fly in from the side or back of the pack, make the Cats take the front spot and break down the systematic interference that they like to initiate.

I thought too that despite not featuring in votes or stats the likes of Byrne, Young, Ainsworth, Wilson, Ison, Evans and the like had a genuine influence on the ground which stopped Geelong carrying the footy away after a good tunnel. It was probably the best small / medium sized game we've seen from them as a group, and it must surely show them what can happen when they do the team thing first instead of playing the selfish gene.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: blueboys_1 on May 30, 2026, 11:45:48 am
There was one bloke who wasn't feeling it like the rest of us. :D  :D

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1509359814221775
I listened to MMM just before half time.
BT and Montagna both basically saying Geelong was cruising - in fact at half time BT said gee not a great game for Cats, Blues are being stubborn.  We had just kicked 4 to 2 i believe. Then they said youd expect Geelong to go on with it here 🤪 like commentate without bias. Sick of listening to such poor commentating

That's why I always listen to the ABC. Tired of  the BS that the other stations go on about. And best of all no ads.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: PaulP on May 30, 2026, 11:51:10 am
Did anyone see better vision of Cripps’ goal? Was it close to
Missing or did it go straight thru the middle?

I'm not aware of any vision, but Hayward said after the game that he was worried because he thought it looked skinny. Also, if you notice the goal umpire runs quickly to his right as the ball sails through the goals, so i don't think it was right through the middle.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 30, 2026, 11:57:16 am
Relentless. Never dropped our heads. Tackling pressure - magnificent. Kids through to leaders - bravo. To C Scott and his whining - get st*ffed.

Scott knows how to play the media and that wanker Ralph who thinks he knows something about the game. I didn't mind Scotts interview after the game, he carried on not really saying much or anything apart from the non goal ad nauseum. He protects his players and the opposition players as if they exist in another universe.
I'd have him in  heartbeat.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: LP on May 30, 2026, 11:57:37 am
I'm not aware of any vision, but Hayward said after the game that he was worried because he thought it looked skinny. Also, if you notice the goal umpire runs quickly to his right as the ball sails through the goals, so i don't think it was right through the middle.
Yeah, just left of centre, but the banana kicks can be deceptive if they curl a lot, technically they should go through towards the curl side of center which means the error is all inside the goal opening. For the same reason golfers play with a fade or draw, to eliminate the error to one side or the other. If a banana from in front curls and goes through the middle you've probably started it outside the goal face and if it didn't curl you'd miss.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: shawny on May 30, 2026, 12:17:03 pm
Re sign our captain now.

What a leader.

Impossible to get another captain who would help the kids develop just by his inspirational acts and overall professionalism that you get from this bloke.

Our kids are showing so much talent so early  in their career and no one better to learn from but this inspirational captain.

He wont play games like he has in the last month all the time and whether he is there or not when we truely challenge next doesnt matter - this great man has done everything he can for us has given us the best highlights in what has been a generally unsuccessful period but he must play out his days with us.

Honour this bloke for what he has done for us show with an extension - must finish his amazing career with us.

Amazing what happens when its not all left to him and he is surrounded by hard tackling fleet footed young players that are providing raw energy and sped - the bloke brownlow odds are coming in each week.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: pew2 on May 30, 2026, 01:23:21 pm
after all the negativity  , just like say great great effort last night win or lose made the club proud
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: cookie2 on May 30, 2026, 01:45:06 pm
Crippa has his mojo back I’m pleased to say. He’s playing like a true inspirational leader. I take back my previous negative sentiments about him. Hopefully he continues to inspire.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: MickyO on May 30, 2026, 01:59:27 pm
Re sign our captain now.

What a leader.

Impossible to get another captain who would help the kids develop just by his inspirational acts and overall professionalism that you get from this bloke.

Our kids are showing so much talent so early  in their career and no one better to learn from but this inspirational captain.

He wont play games like he has in the last month all the time and whether he is there or not when we truely challenge next doesnt matter - this great man has done everything he can for us has given us the best highlights in what has been a generally unsuccessful period but he must play out his days with us.

Honour this bloke for what he has done for us show with an extension - must finish his amazing career with us.

Amazing what happens when its not all left to him and he is surrounded by hard tackling fleet footed young players that are providing raw energy and sped - the bloke brownlow odds are coming in each week.
100% agree.

The young ones love him too, they were all over him at the end of the game, Jagga did his big cuddle again, Billy and Flynn seem
To always be around him.

And best of all after some
Of the crap he cops, he has never once become a bitter ant about it. Absolutely love him.
And an extension now to finish his career with us would be sweet news.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: MickyO on May 30, 2026, 02:03:55 pm
Can I say too its bloody fantastic
To see some
True dumping tackles being laid by some
Of our team - Talor Im looking at you! For too long we dont make the opposition pay with solid hits but Talor a few times last night I saw absolutely bury his opponent.
Love it!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Professer E on May 30, 2026, 03:33:30 pm
Love the attitude and effort Taylor brings but felt he was lucky to hold his spot after the Port game because he is bit of an "almost" player at this early stage in his career.  I don't know if it's his speed over a couple of yards that allows him to "almost" make the tackle, the kind of tackle a player with less intent wouldnt get anywhere near.  The bottom line is that his effort translates to pressure on the defenders and hopefully as he develops he can add a bit of scoreboard pressure as well.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: laj on May 30, 2026, 03:56:51 pm
And a bit of Blues Radio.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18Wh4DhJbP/
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: rocky on May 30, 2026, 04:06:31 pm
And a bit of Blues Radio.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18Wh4DhJbP/
That is gold. Looked like Andy M was going to pee his pants
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: bratblue on May 30, 2026, 04:07:34 pm
Can I say too its bloody fantastic
To see some
True dumping tackles being laid by some
Of our team - Talor Im looking at you! For too long we dont make the opposition pay with solid hits but Talor a few times last night I saw absolutely bury his opponent.
Love it!

He's from Koroit, Irish settled spud growing country. Gotta be tough to play in those leagues in the South West, but decent honest friendly people when you meet them at the local. If you ever get a chance go to the Woolsthorp hotel.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: 31Tommys_barber on May 30, 2026, 04:32:59 pm
I thought all of our kids are showing good signs in either firsts or reserves. Made me wonder why Austin and Agresta got the flick?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 30, 2026, 04:40:37 pm
I thought all of our kids are showing good signs in either firsts or reserves. Made me wonder why Austin and Agresta got the flick?
https://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=7433.msg470242#msg470242
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: RiverRat on May 30, 2026, 06:36:01 pm
Also remiss not to give a huge shout out to Hayward! Seems like hes a mouthy little
Mongrel and i love it! We have been wanting some players with a bit of energy about them - hes our guy!
The mongrel is fine as long as he doesn't revert to those unnecessary downfield free kicks for late tackles that were evident earlier in the season.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: DJC on May 30, 2026, 06:58:23 pm
And a bit of Blues Radio.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18Wh4DhJbP/

Imagine sitting next to those three at any game, let alone a close one  :D
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: DJC on May 30, 2026, 07:00:36 pm
How ironic that a long bomb inside 50 won us the game?

I don't think that Gov had any other options.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Thryleon on May 30, 2026, 08:38:45 pm
I thought all of our kids are showing good signs in either firsts or reserves. Made me wonder why Austin and Agresta got the flick?
sh.

Believe in Graham Wright...
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Baggers on May 31, 2026, 08:38:38 am
And a bit of Blues Radio.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18Wh4DhJbP/

Love it! Ripper stuff.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Baggers on May 31, 2026, 08:44:47 am
Also remiss not to give a huge shout out to Hayward! Seems like hes a mouthy little
Mongrel and i love it! We have been wanting some players with a bit of energy about them - hes our guy!

Absolutely, MO. The players also speak highly of his energy. He's a ripper inclusion to our group... Plus, he works his clacker off every week.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Baggers on May 31, 2026, 08:50:47 am
I thought all of our kids are showing good signs in either firsts or reserves. Made me wonder why Austin and Agresta got the flick?

Unfortunately, not all the kids in the Magoos and some recruits actually aren't coming along as well as we might have hoped... nor delivering consistent strong efforts - Moir, Ben Campo, Reidy, Chesser, Irish boys...
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: madbluboy on May 31, 2026, 11:46:23 am
Wright was working with Austin during last year's draft and trade period so I doubt he was judged on that.

I think it was more about how he handled the salary cap where we never had room to recruit anyone.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: kruddler on May 31, 2026, 12:38:14 pm
I posted this in another thread, but probably should be here.
Quote
Just as an aside, i don't know if anyone saw it but deep in the last quarter there was a stoppage on the far side forward flank/wing.
May even have been in the last few minutes.
Cripps was in there directing traffic like a captain should.
His main focus was telling Harry to go back, essentially clog up space.
He starts waddling back with very little urgency. Cripps yells at him again to clear out and go back. He hears him but barely makes it out of a walk.

Ball is brought back into play and someone gets the clearance, camera goes to a wide shot where you can see Harry still slowly wandering back, now about 30m off the contest, back to the ball in no mans land.
Thankfully the ball went our way and he was not required but this REALLY bothered me because.....

1. The game was on the line, show some bloody urgency
2. The captain had to tell you, at least twice, and you still couldn't do it.
3. You had your back to the ball and it could've been kicked to you and the moment you realised was when it hits you in the back of the head.
4. Had we have lost the game, i guarantee you that would've been highlighted as to how we lost it.

Now i appreciate Harry had worked hard and is playing more ruck than he is used to over the past month, but from a senior player, that was very poor and i expect better and the rest of the playing group should demand better.

I just rewatched the last few minutes and the stoppage in question started with 19 seconds left on the clock.
The stoppage started from Harry working hard pushing forward along the boundary line. So he was definitely tired.

However, you can clearly see he could not find it within himself to run out the final 19 seconds.
It very much could've been the difference between winning and losing.

Watch here....
https://youtu.be/aVu-SQ7sGEk?si=qepqqcb2jSTSdwuo&t=212
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 31, 2026, 01:57:51 pm
Wanted the replay:
- Fraser is ridiculously calm and composed.
- We defended very well all night (def50, mid of ground, fwd50)
- We are very crafty with some set play work particularly I50 stoppages.
- I am seeing a little bit of nastiness about the way we play, especially Walsh, Dean and Cowan (me like).
- Ison's quick hands result in two goals (Young and Hayward). The kid is all Class (with a capital C).
- We turned it around by beating Geel at there game (forcing TO's and scoring from them).
- I heard Whately say a couple of time "making it up as they go". I disagree, we were scanning for better options instead of blazing away long or looking for changes of angle.
- Our ground ball work is elite, has been for a while. We have to tidy up the finishing.
- Is Cerra to the wing a master stroke?


Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: BlackRooster on May 31, 2026, 02:18:32 pm
Maybe I little of topic, but did was anyone listening to Crunh time on SEN on Sat morning??
If not go and have a listen. Gerald Whatley basicly apologies to Cripps without saying sorry.
I am sure he was one of te media who wanted Cripps traded.
Anyone whta a game and Go Blues
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: laj on May 31, 2026, 03:46:24 pm
Wanted the replay:
- Fraser is ridiculously calm and composed.
-

Alot more than all of us were with very clenched sphincters....haha.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: laj on May 31, 2026, 04:05:23 pm
I thought all of our kids are showing good signs in either firsts or reserves. Made me wonder why Austin and Agresta got the flick?

Unfortunately, not all the kids in the Magoos and some recruits actually aren't coming along as well as we might have hoped... nor delivering consistent strong efforts - Moir, Ben Campo, Reidy, Chesser, Irish boys...
Like to see Ben C get a run later on if it is possible. He's consistently doing a good job in the twos. Disposal is ok as long as he handballs...lol. His only issue, with the type of player he is, is that is has so many ahead of him. So might not be possible. The boys are polar opposite types from their old man in playing style.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 31, 2026, 05:24:07 pm


Unfortunately, not all the kids in the Magoos and some recruits actually aren't coming along as well as we might have hoped... nor delivering consistent strong efforts - Moir, Ben Campo, Reidy, Chesser, Irish boys...
Like to see Ben C get a run later on if it is possible. He's consistently doing a good job in the twos. Disposal is ok as long as he handballs...lol. His only issue, with the type of player he is, is that is has so many ahead of him. So might not be possible. The boys are polar opposite types from their old man in playing style.
Agree Scott is what we need and Ben is what we have plenty of, Lucas looked good in his first game but since hasnt fired a shot or has been injured and wingman are a dime a dozen in any draft or trade week.
I have a soft spot for father/sons so I dont want them delisted but if their surname wasnt Camporeale you would be moving them on more than likely...
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: pew2 on June 01, 2026, 01:28:06 pm
fu.....k .n long bomb if it wasnt for cripps 193 cm that ball could have landed straight into geelong hands and game over ,once again we were lucky .need fwds that are going to lead or smarter going forward hope our new coach changes our game plan  
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: BluePhantom on June 01, 2026, 01:58:28 pm
fu.....k .n long bomb if it wasnt for cripps 193 cm that ball could have landed straight into geelong hands and game over ,once again we were lucky .need fwds that are going to lead or smarter going forward hope our new coach changes our game plan  
We all have noticed how the ball is coming into the 50. Low flat passes, probably a little easier to intercept if you are near the line of the kick but harder to get numbers to the fall of the ball.
I like it, can create that kaos ball.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: PaulP on June 01, 2026, 04:49:00 pm
Coaches' votes :

10 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
7 Jagga Smith (CARL)
4 Sam Walsh (CARL)
3 Connor O'Sullivan (GEEL)
2 Oliver Dempsey (GEEL)
2 Max Holmes (GEEL)
1 Will Hayward (CARL)
1 Tom Stewart (GEEL)
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: madbluboy on June 01, 2026, 04:53:43 pm
Chris Scott's votes are always awesome.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: LP on June 01, 2026, 06:39:59 pm
Chris Scott's votes are always awesome.
I don't know how it can be that Walsh only got 4 votes from one coach.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Baggers on June 01, 2026, 06:48:13 pm
After watching the game again, yes even the first qtr, another thing that strikes me about our boys now is something that's been missing for a while. Character. Building a very impressive group of diverse characters. Early days, but we're becoming terrific to watch.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: cookie2 on June 01, 2026, 07:25:24 pm
After watching the game again, yes even the first qtr, another thing that strikes me about our boys now is something that's been missing for a while. Character. Building a very impressive group of diverse characters. Early days, but we're becoming terrific to watch.
Yep. The team’s execution just has a totally different feel to it, obviously for the better. Players seem to have very different attitudes and are playing with more fluency and freedom. Very noticeable.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: rocky on June 01, 2026, 07:39:58 pm
Chris Scott's votes are always awesome.
🛠️
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: DJC on June 02, 2026, 02:50:59 am
Mitch McGovern has been in very good form but he had a shocker on Friday.  He is credited with only three effective disposals ... but he had five score involvements.  How does that work?  Are behinds counted as ineffective disposals?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Thryleon on June 02, 2026, 03:17:25 am
Mitch McGovern has been in very good form but he had a shocker on Friday.  He is credited with only three effective disposals ... but he had five score involvements.  How does that work?  Are behinds counted as ineffective disposals?
1% leading to a score might do it. 
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: laj on June 02, 2026, 08:04:50 am
Mitch McGovern has been in very good form but he had a shocker on Friday.  He is credited with only three effective disposals ... but he had five score involvements.  How does that work?  Are behinds counted as ineffective disposals?
Tap ons, shepherds count count as an involvement?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: DJC on June 02, 2026, 09:28:30 am
Mitch McGovern has been in very good form but he had a shocker on Friday.  He is credited with only three effective disposals ... but he had five score involvements.  How does that work?  Are behinds counted as ineffective disposals?
Tap ons, shepherds count count as an involvement?

It has to be direct involvement, so knock ons and hitouts count, not shepherds, blocks, etc.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: kruddler on June 02, 2026, 01:14:38 pm
Tap ons, shepherds count count as an involvement?

It has to be direct involvement, so knock ons and hitouts count, not shepherds, blocks, etc.

Might be for a free kick that was paid advantage.
So he made the play, but didn't get a touch for ir.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: DJC on June 02, 2026, 03:22:48 pm


It has to be direct involvement, so knock ons and hitouts count, not shepherds, blocks, etc.

Might be for a free kick that was paid advantage.
So he made the play, but didn't get a touch for ir.

Yeah, nah!

The player has to physically move the ball as part of the chain of possessions that results in the score.  Gov got one free and, if I remember correctly, he took his kick.

Just another anomaly in the arcane world of footy stats  ::) 
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: kruddler on June 02, 2026, 03:25:52 pm
A score involvement in the AFL is a statistic that credits any player who is directly involved in a successful scoring chain that results in a goal or a behind. A single player is only credited with one score involvement per scoring chain, even if they touch the ball multiple times during that play.

How a Score Involvement Happens
A player is credited with a score involvement if their action directly leads to a score through:
- A disposal (a kick or a handball)
- A hitout to advantage
- A kick-in (from the defensive goal square)
- A knock-on (tapping the ball forward to a teammate)
- Winning a free kick that directly leads to the score

So knock ons count. Conspiracy over.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: kruddler on June 02, 2026, 03:30:16 pm
Also....
A behind is not counted as an effective disposal in AFL statistics

In AFL, a "Score Involvement" is a statistical measure that records every time a player is directly involved in an unbroken passage of play that results in a goal or a behind


He kicked 2 behinds.....which is 2 score involvements that were not deemed effective.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: DJC on June 02, 2026, 06:08:34 pm
A score involvement in the AFL is a statistic that credits any player who is directly involved in a successful scoring chain that results in a goal or a behind. A single player is only credited with one score involvement per scoring chain, even if they touch the ball multiple times during that play.

How a Score Involvement Happens
A player is credited with a score involvement if their action directly leads to a score through:
- A disposal (a kick or a handball)
- A hitout to advantage
- A kick-in (from the defensive goal square)
- A knock-on (tapping the ball forward to a teammate)
- Winning a free kick that directly leads to the score

So knock ons count. Conspiracy over.

Yes, that's what I said:

It has to be direct involvement, so knock ons and hitouts count, not shepherds, blocks, etc.

So, to summarise, Gov kicked two behinds.  They count as score involvements, but aren't effective disposals.  Therefore, Gov's three effective disposals were parts of chains of possession that ended with a score, his long bomb to Crippa being one of them, and his sole goal assist.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: laj on June 02, 2026, 08:13:14 pm
A score involvement in the AFL is a statistic that credits any player who is directly involved in a successful scoring chain that results in a goal or a behind. A single player is only credited with one score involvement per scoring chain, even if they touch the ball multiple times during that play.

How a Score Involvement Happens
A player is credited with a score involvement if their action directly leads to a score through:
- A disposal (a kick or a handball)
- A hitout to advantage
- A kick-in (from the defensive goal square)
- A knock-on (tapping the ball forward to a teammate)
- Winning a free kick that directly leads to the score

So knock ons count. Conspiracy over.

Yes, that's what I said:

It has to be direct involvement, so knock ons and hitouts count, not shepherds, blocks, etc.

So, to summarise, Gov kicked two behinds.  They count as score involvements, but aren't effective disposals.  Therefore, Gov's three effective disposals were parts of chains of possession that ended with a score, his long bomb to Crippa being one of them, and his sole goal assist.

Yes, goal assists are a better way of putting it.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: DJC on June 03, 2026, 10:05:30 am
Yes, goal assists are a better way of putting it.

I imagine that goal assists contribute more to player rankings than score involvements.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Blue Moon on June 03, 2026, 10:16:40 am
Stats are stats, they mean what you want them to mean.  Geelong defenders marked everything in defence until they didn't,  then Cripps took the mark that counted and won the game.  McGovern was the one who kicked the bullet that Cripps marked.  If he only had one effective kick for the night at least it was the effective kick that was the most important.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Lods on June 03, 2026, 12:53:54 pm
The best stat of all is probably how many minutes you actually spend watching them and observing some of the things that don't show up on the stat sheet. ;)  :D
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: LP on June 03, 2026, 09:42:17 pm
Watching the replay McGovern was almost playing the decoy lead-up game, he made lead after lead that was ignored or the opportunity was missed through hesitation. At least twice he was inside F50 tens of metres clear of his opponent and we held the footy too long to hit him up as an open target,

Now fans who ball watch will say he didn't touch it all night, but in reality he was doing a lot of hard work that was either sacrificial or not being honoured.

The other thing I noticed, between Gov and Hayward they seemed to be waxing about who would draw the opponents, several of Haywards marks are one on one contests because Gov drew the opponents out of the F50 and Hayward benefits.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: DJC on June 04, 2026, 07:44:05 pm
Watching the replay McGovern was almost playing the decoy lead-up game, he made lead after lead that was ignored or the opportunity was missed through hesitation. At least twice he was inside F50 tens of metres clear of his opponent and we held the footy too long to hit him up as an open target,

Now fans who ball watch will say he didn't touch it all night, but in reality he was doing a lot of hard work that was either sacrificial or not being honoured.

The other thing I noticed, between Gov and Hayward they seemed to be waxing about who would draw the opponents, several of Haywards marks are one on one contests because Gov drew the opponents out of the F50 and Hayward benefits.

I don't think that Gov was a decoy.  He took five marks and, of our forwards, only Hayward took more.  His kicking for goal has been excellent this season but he had an off night.  He also wasn't as effective as he has been when the ball hit the ground and didn't get the handball receives.  An average performance in comparison to his other games but he was still a threat and demanded defensive attention.  His running patterns, and his scoring potential, made it difficult for his opponents to drop off and provide help defence ... and you could probably say the same for all of our forwards.

I'm a bit late to comment on the game - everything has been covered in depth - but there's one thing that I don't think has been raised previously; Jack Ison's two goal assist handpasses to Young and Hayward were like lightning.  Quick thinking, great decisions and elite execution!

Title: Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
Post by: Baggers on June 05, 2026, 08:53:48 am
Watching the replay McGovern was almost playing the decoy lead-up game, he made lead after lead that was ignored or the opportunity was missed through hesitation. At least twice he was inside F50 tens of metres clear of his opponent and we held the footy too long to hit him up as an open target,

Now fans who ball watch will say he didn't touch it all night, but in reality he was doing a lot of hard work that was either sacrificial or not being honoured.

The other thing I noticed, between Gov and Hayward they seemed to be waxing about who would draw the opponents, several of Haywards marks are one on one contests because Gov drew the opponents out of the F50 and Hayward benefits.

I don't think that Gov was a decoy.  He took five marks and, of our forwards, only Hayward took more.  His kicking for goal has been excellent this season but he had an off night.  He also wasn't as effective as he has been when the ball hit the ground and didn't get the handball receives.  An average performance in comparison to his other games but he was still a threat and demanded defensive attention.  His running patterns, and his scoring potential, made it difficult for his opponents to drop off and provide help defence ... and you could probably say the same for all of our forwards.

I'm a bit late to comment on the game - everything has been covered in depth - but there's one thing that I don't think has been raised previously; Jack Ison's two goal assist handpasses to Young and Hayward were like lightning.  Quick thinking, great decisions and elite execution!



Yep. The strong footy IQ of Jack Ison didn't escape Jason Dunstall's eyes, he made a point of highlighting those, and other, lightning choices and disposal -- hand and foot -- by the young fella. I think we've got a ripper there.