A Sunday game in a bog: Box Hill's ground often turns into a bog after reasonable rain, and there is supposed to be quite a bit on Saturday night.
Our game is at 14:05 on Sunday.
No idea as to who will play yet, but Acres was not named as Emergency, so he probably will play. The other Emergencies should also play.
Box Hill are 4th at the moment, while we are 13th, having won our first game for ages, so we won't be close to being favourites.
Riley promoted to the seniors, as Pitto is out injured. :(
HOK is actually Emergency for the seniors!
Reidy will probably play, as he would be named 'if he got through training'. Since Dean did, I was hoping Reidy would do the same.
Our line-up:
B: J. Sammartino (58), D. Harvey (61), J. Boyd (37)
HB: H. Charleson (28), Z. Williams (6), A. Saad (42)
C: L. Camporeale (21), B. Acres (13), C. Chesser (31)
HF: L. Fogarty (8), F. Young (45), D. Hogg (70)
F: A. Moir (43), H. O'Keeffe (40), J. Rule (65)
R: L. Reidy (25), B. Camporeale (16), C. Lord (36)
INT: S. Paea (66), A. Davey (57), L. Prout (74), T. Gresham (78), T. Logan (68)
23rd Player: T. Gresham (78)
EMG: O. Badr (53), W. Cookson (77), R. Corrigan (63), J. O'Sullivan (54), C. Cotter (72), H. Wilson (72)
IN: B. Acres, A. Davey, T. Logan, L. Reidy, J. Rule
OUT: F. Riley (AFL), M. Duffy (managed), L. Farrar (concussion), D. Tucker (injured), W. Cookson (omitted)
NEW: Alwyn Davey Jnr, 22, 181cm, Essendon AFL/Old Xaverians
[1] I guess Alwyn Davey had to play at some point. I hope I'm wrong about him, but ...
[2] We'll miss Farrar and Tucker, both of whom were really strong last week.
[3] 14 AFL-listed Blues named. Acres will be a huge in. I don't quite see why he is out.
[4] Good to see Reidy back. He's been good in the VFL. Not sure he has what it take for the seniors, but that is another tale. I hope he dominates on Sunday.
[5] I really hope the Moir can show something in the poor conditions. He has so much talent; he just needs to focus it properly. He got a fair bit of ball last week, but he needs to dominate a game. God knows he has the ability.
[6] Even though Duffy is out, managed, we will miss him. He was much better last week. I guess the MC thinks that with the rain, the Hawthorn key forwards won't be as effective. They may well be right. But our lack of key position players couldn't be more obvious.
Interesting to see how our youngsters fare today. After last night, there will be opportunities.
Halfway through the first and we're 8 points in front.
Camera angle is a shocker as we're watching from ground level. ::)
16 points in from now.
29 in front close to quarter time.
Apparently you only get a $150 dollar fine for participating in a melee at VFL level...well worth it. :D
Quarter time
Carlton 6-6- 36 lead Box Hill 2-0-12
Fogarty is a top possession winner with 10
O'Keefe has 2 goals
Not what I expected, but I'll take it.
In the words of "Supertramp"..."It's raining Again" and a strong wind.
It seems to be against us at the moment but pushing shots at goal away to the left of the end we're kicking to.
30 in front halfway through the second.
Just noticed that Cooper Lord isn't playing.
I don't know whether the reason for that was mentioned before the game but given the injury to Hewett I would have thought he would be the logical replacement next week.
Young gets his second.
Reidy has lost the plot a bit after being caught with the ball and has given away a couple of silly frees.
3 goals each this quarter, and it's 29 points the difference.
Half Time
Carlton 9-6-60 to Box Hill 5-1-31
There seems to be some issue with the scores and it may be a one point adjustment.
Young and O'Keefe 2 goal each
Fogarty has had the ball 22 times.
Acres 14
Ben C 13
Reidy gave away a couple of dumb free kicks but he is at least more competitive in the centre ruck contests than he was earlier in the year - only seems to have one tactic though - he tries to jump early (not very high) into his opponent. It was working well in the first term but he doesn't seem to have any other tactics. O'Keeffe seems more competitive of the pair and is offering something up forward as well.
Moir, playing forward, seems to have given away more free kicks than he has obtained possessions - might be an exaggeration but he doesn't seem very useful as a forward.
Acres might have played himself back into the senior team after the poor showing from Hollands last night.
Fogarty playing well and winning quite a few clearances.
Fogarty playing onball has been our best, conditions suiting along with Acres who has worked his way into the game.
The Campos have been solid contributors but nothing great that says "pick us for the seniors" next week.
Williams has been steady down back and shown his experience in the conditions.
Moir has been more interested in pushing and shoving with his opponents more than attacking the ball after attempting a speccy early in the game.
Okeefe been handy down forward using his size but its not a day for marking players so not expecting much from him but he has provided a target.
Reidy has done some ok stuff around the ground and probably broken even in the ruck but there is nothing dominating about his play and he does get sucked in to giving away silly frees as has been suggested.
I've got Williams in for Ison next week up forward. He regularly hits the scorebaord.
Three quarter time we lead by 30
Carlton 11-9-75 v Box Hill 7-3-45
Fogarty 26
Acres 20
Zac Williams 17
Young, Reidy, O'Keefe and Prout all with 2 goals each
Moir very disappointing to this stage with only three possessions.
Wow
One variable that can be put to the test with a mid season change in coach is favoritism and bias. It would appear that Moir is either a WIP or out the door, and isn't in the 2's because of Voss. And you could say the same about others IMO.
3 goals from Flynn Young -made the most of his opportunities
Shocking conditions but generally well handled by Charleson, in particular.
21 point lead at the 21 minute mark of the last.
Moir is reminding me of Troy Menzel. Got some real ability but just wastes it.
Full time
Carlton 12-12 -84 def Box Hill 9-7-61
Fogarty 31
Acres 26
Young 3 goals
O'Keefe and Reidy 2 each.
Given that he was more than a bit unlucky to make way for Hollands, I would definitely have him back for next Saturday.
Apart from some dodgy disposal last night, I thought Ison looked better than the previous couple of weeks but, if he is to be replaced, I reckon Flynn Young would be a chance to get the gig.
Im probably prepared to keep going with Ison for development, Williams is more of a spare parts backup player for me if we get injuries at either end of the ground.
Id definitely bring back Acres and think about Fogarty if the conditions were poor....
Fair comment on Fogarty. His cards have probably been marked but, if Hewitt can't go, he might be worth a run in the midfield rotation.
From the little I saw it seemed Moir was the only passenger. I'd love to watch the game in full but don't know if there's a replay?
Seems to be his consistent role. I wasn't overly impressed with Chesser, either.
In the AFL we have lost our most effective in and under player in George Hewett (Cripps aside) and with finals nearly out of reach, perhaps time to give Ben Campo his try at AFL level.
Hopefully this year we will give all the young untried AFL listed players a couple of games and not repeat what we did with Harry Lemmey.
ie. Ben and Lucas Camporeale, Harry Charleson.
Thats how I see it RR, bit of horses for courses if its wet and being able run onball as part of the rotation if Hewett is out.The game will more than likely be a grind rather than a shoot out and suit Fogarty.
Fogarty might be suited EB but we'd learn more playing a kid.
I suspect Charleson might have done enough to be re-signed.
Moir looks out the door - Troy Menzel mark 2, albeit quicker and even more "talented". What a waste.
Chesser is a bust, pay him out and move him on.
I'd also like to see Charleson given a run at AFL level.
There will be on afl.com.au, but it usually doesn't come for some hours afterwards. I usually get to see the game the day after it happens, although sometimes it comes up on the night.
[1] Very disappointed in Moir. Someone needs to get in his ear and tell him how the game works. he is too good simply to discard, but he is offering very little.
[2] I would have played Acres last night. Not surprised that he was good. 26 disposals, 4 clearances (not usually a large part of his game), 3 tackles and 6 marks on a day not good for marking says a lot.
[3] Liam Reidy: he might not have been BOG this week, but he is combative. He got 14 possessions, 7 clearances, but only 1 mark. Considering that we were after Ramsden, he can say he is worth a little more. But, what is his future? Like Riley, he approaches every ruck contest basically the same way. That is not a method that the best rucks use.
[4] What did people think of Alwyn Davey? He had 9 possessions, 1 clearance for 1 goal 2. Not great numbers, but it was his first outing?
Given we are out of wildcard on percentage and won 7 from the last 8, that is certainly not out of reach. Best to look at who will get us there to an extent at least.
I'm thinking Ison's best way to develop further in the near term is in the two's to get his confidence back. It helped Byrne. Sometimes you just have to do that. Williams has always been a consistent goal scorer forward.
The running goal he kicked was pretty impressive.
But apart from that not much else...I reckon we hold off on judgements for a couple of weeks.
Yes, Alwyn probably needs another couple of games to get up to speed, but Tyson Gresham has him covered at this stage.
I've been saying recently that it might be time to give Ison a break in the 2's. He has clearly lost confidence, his kicking has dropped off, he is fumbling more and not kicking goals. Time for him to get a recharge. He'll be back in a couple of weeks, after he has that swagger back.
Gresham had 12 possessions, 2 clearances and 1 tackle, but didn't kick a goal.
One thing I do like about Gresham is his team-orientation: he is always on the lookout to give it to someone in a better position. He certainly set up goals in recent weeks.
On the downside is how easy he is to brush off. Like a few of our kids, he needs some more time in the gym. If he sticks his tackles, his effectiveness would improve significantly.
One thing I liked about Reidy today was that he kicked 2 goals from ruck stoppages. Whatever his limitations, eh can think on his feet.
Flynn Young seems to have some of his early season form back. I didn't see the long leads that he was doing in the first few rounds, but he jagged a couple from crumbs, which doesn't happen a lot with our guys.
The other thing I noted is that our guys don't appear to have the body strength that many of their opponents had. We might be running out games better, but we really need to get stronger, all across the park.
Didn't see any of the game but based on summaries and the form of the 1s, its pretty clear to me that we need to make a couple changes.
1. Williams into the 1s.
Losing George, we need some mid help.
Kicking goals is a struggle up forward, zac is our most effective when played there.
Clearly can play down back as well.
With 5 on the bench, surely you find a spot for this utility.
2. Acres should never have been dropped and should be back in the 1s.
We know george is out.
So we need 1 more to make way.
To me it seems to be between ison and hollands. Either way, those ins can cover us.
I wouldnt be playing fogarty. Hes gone at seasons end.
You could think about playing flynn young as well....but not sure there is a spot for him.