Great win, average footy.
A very good weekend for the club. All four teams won. Great effort by all the gals and guys.
Scrappy game by two average teams but at least we got the win. Same old issues and we still have much work to do. Enjoy the wins when we can though. 😁
Always nice to win but what about wanting it bad enough rather than just doing enough, get ahead then take the foot off the throat. Could have won by near anything we wanted but "chose" not to.
Where is that real fanatical desire we had in 5 of the first 6 weeks. The high pressure, the team defence. Not there the last 4 weeks. Shouldn't complain about 8-2 but I have...lol. 9 wins equals last year.
A wins a win. It was ugly, especially scoring (12 behinds) and sometimes the intent to attack the footy seemed off.
Onto next week I guess.
I take any win but we know we are better than that. We saw that 5 weeks ago. It's time to show it, not turn up and do just enough.
Jim imo our goal kicking is a major factor in our struggles. We are putting ourselves under the pump and are unable to get the buffer that allows us to play more fluent footy. We fight for survival rather than consolidating victories.
I have never seen our kicking at goal so poor. There must be someone who can kick straight. Last week was one week it really cost us badly. We have patches against the Pies where we were right on top but kicking at goal stifled us. Then they go down the other end kick one out of the @rse and our head would drop again. Their 14.6 made our kicking look even worse.
It's sort of the way of modern AFL, the balance between having a crack and execution seems to have gone out the window.
Every game seems like a roll of the dice!
Couple of good things for me, Derksen and Young greatly improved, they now offer genuine KPP support, Byrne starting to look comfortable at AFL level.
Lord, Akers or Cotters might struggle to keep a spot, could be time to give one of the Campo's a run. As great as Akers is at winning a contest, his disposal and some of his decisions are equally bad, he must be a real point of contention for the MC.
Yes, this giggly forward handball, play-on-at-the-speed-of light-footy can get pretty ugly IMO.
Acres would have the coaches singing his praises out of one side of their mouths and hissing disparaging abuse out the other. The most frustrating player on our list IMO.
Rising Star Nom this week must be T Byrne!!!
To me he's a player that has performance inverse of the available time and space, the more time he has the more ways he finds to trip over his own foot.
I think he needs the old "Stop thinking, just do something!"
Taking the first option could be a good start.
Frustrating game to watch as skills by both teams was average at best and our kicking for goal was crap again. Should have won by 5-6 goals imo.
Positives are the kids. Byrne jagga Dersken dean wilson all played big roles.
Weitering loss is massive but win the amount of games we have with such a young defence can only fast track their development and is great for the future.
8-2 is an amazing effort considering the position the group was in and a winning culture is good culture regardless if the team played to their peak or not so im happy.
Surely kemp doesnt get another game off that display. Hes confidence is shot and has become a momentum and moral killer.
Give one of the key kids another run.
The trend of beating poor teams continues.
GC were very poor, despite being good in front of goal.
Kemp not only has the yips in front of goal, he is scared to even have a ping at them.
At least twice he passed to people in worst positions than him, just so he didn't have to shoulder the responsibility of taking a shot himself.
Someone needs to get him a shrink, quick.
Lewis Young looked better in the air than Harry does.....maybe it was the opposition?
Talor Byrne continues to make the extra step which results in laying the tackle, rather than just touching an opponent....and is getting rewarded.
I can't recall how many free kicks we got for holding the ball today, but i'd suggest its our season high.....and there was still a couple that they missed.
Harry Dean is playing with the experience of a 100 gamer. He'll be telling Weitering what to do if he ever returns. Exceeded all expectations. Today wasn't his best game either, but his opponent is about the toughest he'll ever face, so you take that.
Jagga can not touch the ball between now and the end of the year and still win the rising star. His poise and balance is elite. He'll win a brownlow someday. IMO, he's aready overtaken Walsh in the midfield heirarchy.
Jagga had equal most touches on the ground, and 2nd best disposal efficiency of the 46 players, despite having the 2nd most contested possessions in navy blue (behind Cripps of course)......and its effectively, his first year!
The young kids won us the game today IMO.
Watched a bit if the VFL today, we have zero options to replace him with.
Sorry, guys, I didn't do the threads this morning. I haven't been on the computer until now. I should have done them last night!
I can only offer my mist sincere apologies.
I guess I should be thankful that we won!
Don't apologise Crash....nobody expects you to do them. You've just taken it upon yourself for years to do it.
There is already a thread up and running through, Paul started it. ;)
Please, someone merge these threads: I didn't see the one sexybronco did. For some reason, the system won't allow me to merge the threads: God only knows what I'm going wrong.
Interesting to watch the coaches, often you get a better understanding of your team's performance from the opposition coach. Dimma said it was a very high inside pressure contest, so a bit ugly on the outside with Carlton just better for longer.
Absolutely. 12 - 14 score involvements (depending on whose stats you believe), 3 goals and some great run down tackles. You couldn't want much more from a youngster (except for maybe kicking straighter all the time).
Actually, our kids were very good today. Cowan was excellent with 10 marks, most of them intercepts. Byrne we've mentioned. Billy Wilson was again good (even if he did have a couple of iffy kicks).
Lord was well below his best, but he did manage 23 possessions. He'll be a lot better next year with a proper pre-season and no injury/illness worries. Harry Dean was probably beaten on the day, but that didn't mean he wasn't significant.
When it comes to raw talent, Gold Coast had so much more than us that it wasn't funny. But they play soulless, bruise-free football. We had 52 tackles to their 34, and that was much improved compared to their first half. They don't put that much pressure on; we made the mistake and they scored from turnovers, but they didn't make us make mistakes; we did that to ourselves. Nobody tackles like Talor Byrne, who ran down guys and got some reward for a change. Similar with Frankie Evans: he didn't have a huge day, but his tackles and chases got us the ball and got us goals. We had 14 tackles inside 50, they had 2.
Pitto had maybe half the taps that Moyle had, but who won the clearances? It wasn't them, even with 4 top mids available.
Patrick Cripps didn't have a humungous game, but he had 30 possessions, 8 centre clearances, 5 tackles, 15 clearances in total and 8 score involvements. When we won 22 taps to 37, with 5 to advantage compared to 13. We won the clearances 39 to 28!
Granted that Pitto makes it harder to get perfect taps, which we missed badly the last 2 weeks, but the numbers in their favour suggest they should have killed us in the middle. They did, for maybe 15 minutes in the whole game.
We outmarked Gold Coast: we had 133 marks compared to 77. We had 11 contested marks to 5! And we barely had a tall on the ground! In perfect conditions.
We even won the free kicks because we tackled with purpose. We got goals because of our pressure and more holding the balls than we've had in any 2 games this season, because we put body pressure on. That was really good!
Touk Miller used to kill us by stopping our mids and getting it himself. He had 19 possessions, but didn't hurt us at all. Instead, our mids were among our best. We kept Noah Anderson to 8 possessions after half time. He is their captain and he didn't have a single tackle!
The only Gold Coast mid who had reasonable tackle numbers was Rowell, who was their best mid by some margin. But he wasn't as effective as Cripps. Or Walsh. Or Jagga Smith, who went at 92% disposal efficiency!
I thought we hit more targets, the main reason for the differential.
I had to laugh when GC burst off the HBF, and kicked it to Dean standing in the middle of four opponents, it was like watching us!
Leaving aside the average skills just for the moment, the numbers are very strongly in our favour. Way more tackles (including 14v2 tackles I50), more marks, more uncontested possessions, more CP, more clearances, much better efficiency I50, more handballs, more kicks. On paper, it's a great effort.
The ruck as expected is a worry. My biggest gripe with Pitto is his ability to get up and down the ground and do damage defensively or in attack. When you watch a Cameron or Gawn, they work up and down the ground and defensively especially either spoil or intercept mark. There was one instance early where Pitto was there as the GC ball came in but he refused to go and create a contest. The GC player floated in from the side, marked and kicked a goal. Why he didnt engage is beyond me.
There is some vision floating around that shows Lombard clashing with Pertracca over a piece of play.
Basically telling him to F*Off after Petracca criticised some effort.
Not a group of happy campers.
Does Trac have a reputation for being a bit of a douche, or is that just my imagination?
Always looked like a choir boy previously, but that is because Oliver was by his side.
Now? Who knows
Hard to know.
Let's just say he hasn't been as warmly embraced by Gold Coast fans as we might expect...and maybe that extends to some of the players.
I think column A is the answer😉
Yes, I just have some memory that he and Steven May were known for baking team mates in the interests of "lifting standards." But it could just be nonsense.
Is Billy Wilson still eligible for a Rising Star?
24 possessions, 10 marks, 3 tackles, 406 metres gained. Not a bad day's work!!
Nick Austin take a bow again.... Pick 45 is 'burning it up!' About time we found a diamond in the back end of the draft, and Austin did it.
He along with Cowan have been revelations this year, Matt Carrol would have joined them as well with a bit of luck.
Never had an issue with the individuals he picked.......but any danger you could get a balanced list together?
Meanwhile we have Kemp up forward who is too scared to take a shot at goal......and Young who we've shopped around but nobody wanted.
Doesn't fill you with confidence in that area now does it.