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Title: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: crashlander on August 15, 2026, 08:37:12 pm
The Dogs might have English, Dale and Bontempelli out, but their going to hard to beat. We have to win to make it. Simple as that.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: madbluboy on August 16, 2026, 03:47:48 pm
Dominated. Only up by 2 goals.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Micky0 on August 16, 2026, 03:48:51 pm
Doesn’t look like an easy game at all.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: madbluboy on August 16, 2026, 04:02:23 pm
Weitering keeps getting caught out. Too slow.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: madbluboy on August 16, 2026, 04:04:11 pm
Haven't seen us this poor at getting back for weeks.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 16, 2026, 04:04:25 pm
When was studs out allowed back in?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on August 16, 2026, 04:06:46 pm
If it was Toby it would be weeks!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 16, 2026, 04:10:02 pm
Two goals from a no free and dodgy free
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Micky0 on August 16, 2026, 04:10:46 pm
We are playing rushed and not clean
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on August 16, 2026, 04:11:24 pm
Beware of the blokes playing for a finals gig, they play with some desperation!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 16, 2026, 04:14:00 pm
They are smashing us this qtr in every area.
Over to you Josh.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on August 16, 2026, 04:15:03 pm
Our Mids are hanging back, Libba has put the hurt on them and they have gone into their shell.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Micky0 on August 16, 2026, 04:16:58 pm
This is bloody so annoying I friggen knew the media talking us up and making it a ‘certain’ would make us play crape!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Baggers on August 16, 2026, 04:24:06 pm
Dishlickers have brought frenetic pressure which we're not handling and being forced into old bad habits/dodgy disposal.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on August 16, 2026, 04:26:07 pm
Al started with Harry being dumb against the boundary.

Bevo pulled off all their talls and their runners went to work, has caused us some headaches because we have a few glacial talls that provide nothing if the games not on our terms.

Thus far team chemistry is looking a bit off.

On current evidence, weitering might be the one thats thrown our balance out.  Fun fact, he hasn't played since we beat geelong.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Micky0 on August 16, 2026, 04:26:17 pm
Dishlickers have brought frenetic pressure which we're not handling and being forced into old bad habits/dodgy disposal.
Absolutely and some really poor decisions and play by our guys.  We have got to improve that part of our game and keep composure ffs!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 16, 2026, 04:26:27 pm
Strayed away from what we've been good at. Feel like Jagga is the only midfielder that was still productive in the 2nd.
Byrner had a horror 15 seconds when he blazed away instead of picking out a target I50. Then he got caught trying to break a tackle. Stick to the plan Blues.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on August 16, 2026, 04:26:51 pm
Lose today, and I think it costs Fraser the job, regardless of what happens next week.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Micky0 on August 16, 2026, 04:27:29 pm
Al started with Harry being dumb against the boundary. .
Yep. Such a dumb decision by him.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 16, 2026, 04:27:57 pm
Dishlickers have brought frenetic pressure which we're not handling and being forced into old bad habits/dodgy disposal.
We handled it at the start of the first with strong contested footy. Went away from that in the 2nd. Tackles slipped and the quick, accurate hands disappeared.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on August 16, 2026, 04:29:13 pm
Strayed away from what we've been good at. Feel like Jagga is the only midfielder that was still productive in the 2nd.
Smashing Walsh and Hewett, I think Walsh should have at least two or three frees for late hits after he disposes of the footy. On one occassion a Dog ran past the footy to belt Hewett and it was a non-free.

Studs up, non-free, it's bizarre!

Further, umpires have changed this week, play on being called almost instantly, they are rushing us as much as the Dogs.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 16, 2026, 04:32:25 pm
I reckon Young out has messed with our balance. H having to ruck I dont like as it robs a target.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: madbluboy on August 16, 2026, 04:33:43 pm
Weitering is good for playing on gorillas but they don't have one. I would put him forward.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 16, 2026, 04:36:30 pm
Weitering is good for playing on gorillas but they don't have one. I would put him forward.
Fair point. I doubt Fraser has the cahones to pull that leaver.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on August 16, 2026, 04:36:48 pm
I reckon Young out has messed with our balance. H having to ruck I dont like as it robs a target.
We still centre rucked Harry, last week.

Some odd tactics today, but it's exposed by our poor ball use, the bulk of our problems are missed targets from clean disposals. The thing swaying the result so far is that poor efficiency issue and some massive non-decisions.

Multiple times we've had HFs 20m clear and put the ball on their head or behind them causing a turnover and end to end score.

The Dogs look like they are trying to prove a point, not just for today but potentially for the Wildcard, while we look like we are trying to safely our way into finals.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 16, 2026, 04:40:48 pm

We still centre rucked Harry, last week.

I checked the stats, 0 CBA's
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on August 16, 2026, 04:42:22 pm
That's usually the case.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Baggers on August 16, 2026, 04:42:52 pm
Today we're being hunted, big test for the coaching group and players. Today the hot-n-cold Dishlickers are hot. Big test.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 16, 2026, 04:54:15 pm
First time I have seem Fraser flustered in the box
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on August 16, 2026, 04:57:23 pm
I think Hayward might've broken his ankle with that speccy.

Not ideal, hopefully not that bad.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 16, 2026, 05:00:09 pm
Just poor decision after poor decision, Haynes did not need to kick that.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on August 16, 2026, 05:00:37 pm
We've seen this before.  Doing our best to lose this one.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 16, 2026, 05:03:03 pm
Just farken terrible.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 16, 2026, 05:03:39 pm
Has Kemp touch the footy? Evans?
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: laj on August 16, 2026, 05:05:01 pm
Our composure today hasn't been good. This is the game that stitches the wildcard and it is showing.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 16, 2026, 05:07:27 pm
If we keep this up we will lose the unlovable game.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: laj on August 16, 2026, 05:09:24 pm
If we keep this up we will lose the unlovable game.
It'll definitely be UNLOVABLE....lol
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on August 16, 2026, 05:10:30 pm
Going to be our weekly heart/stress test coming up in the last.

Must've missed where this was on the fine print of my membership.

We don't like making it easy on ourselves.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on August 16, 2026, 05:10:36 pm
Our forwards were expecting Acres or Evans to go the coridor, and we went to the pocket, we had CHF wide open!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 16, 2026, 05:10:53 pm
They are dead set walking through our tackles. Seriously thats unforgivable.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on August 16, 2026, 05:11:59 pm
Why did ump call play on on Byrne?

He didn't move off his mark!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on August 16, 2026, 05:12:37 pm
Young Byrne has the leg, he needs to go back and take those shots on.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on August 16, 2026, 05:13:04 pm
Why did ump call play on on Byrne?

He didn't move off his mark!
They have been doing it all day!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: laj on August 16, 2026, 05:16:59 pm
Going to be our weekly heart/stress test coming up in the last.

Must've missed where this was on the fine print of my membership.

We don't like making it easy on ourselves.
The club is a nightmare in that regard. Never seen a side that likes to make it so hard for themselves ever.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Micky0 on August 16, 2026, 05:17:34 pm
Another heart stopping final term.

Credit to the Dogs I knew they would be playing to win! Of course they are!

Lets see who keeps their composure!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: laj on August 16, 2026, 05:20:37 pm
Another heart stopping final term.

Credit to the Dogs I knew they would be playing to win! Of course they are!

Lets see who keeps their composure!
Dogs have their wildcard stitched up so the same pressure isn't on them.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 16, 2026, 05:22:34 pm
Whoever is cleaner with the footy will win this
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: madbluboy on August 16, 2026, 05:25:13 pm
They have 6 players under 20 games so hopefully experience prevails
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: madbluboy on August 16, 2026, 05:25:53 pm
Franke come on
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: madbluboy on August 16, 2026, 05:26:22 pm
I feel like everyone wants us to lost to keep 10th spot open.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: madbluboy on August 16, 2026, 05:26:28 pm
Lose
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on August 16, 2026, 05:29:31 pm
Kemp not paid the mark
Harry in the 2nd quarter (i think) not paid it as well.

2 shots on goal we didn't get.
We should have put this beyond doubt by now.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on August 16, 2026, 05:30:14 pm
A draw is enough for us to make finals.

I'll take it if we can get it.
Will mean we travel interstate week 1 though
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: laj on August 16, 2026, 05:33:47 pm
 We get in front then won't go on with it. 2 two goal break shouldn't meant we go on with it. Not this club.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: madbluboy on August 16, 2026, 05:38:44 pm
We have pressure, the dogs don't.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Thryleon on August 16, 2026, 05:41:09 pm
Can i just say, weitering is a demoralising teamate at times.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on August 16, 2026, 05:41:28 pm
The moment the blues are expected to win.....we $h!t the bed.

I'm starting to think bringing Weitering in for Young hasn't helped.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: madbluboy on August 16, 2026, 05:41:33 pm
Time to stand up
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on August 16, 2026, 05:45:34 pm
WTF was derkson doing??
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on August 16, 2026, 05:46:59 pm
When the pressure is on.
Acres stands up.
Every time.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on August 16, 2026, 05:48:55 pm
HUGE call by the ump....and right call.....but wow.

Thanks
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on August 16, 2026, 05:50:40 pm
We're in!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on August 16, 2026, 05:51:18 pm
How's the hearts lads?

We lose anyone this week??  :o
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: laj on August 16, 2026, 05:52:56 pm
Thank !@$$%! for that!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Micky0 on August 16, 2026, 05:53:51 pm
HOLY HELL
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Micky0 on August 16, 2026, 05:54:24 pm
How's the hearts lads?

We lose anyone this week??  :o
My Garmin watch graph went crazy! Not good for us!
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: madbluboy on August 16, 2026, 05:55:19 pm
When the pressure is on.
Acres stands up.
Every time.

Mr September
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: PaulP on August 16, 2026, 05:56:30 pm
After the last couple of months and with no Bont and no English, I was hoping for better. Never mind.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: Micky0 on August 16, 2026, 05:58:32 pm
After the last couple of months and with no Bont and no English, I was hoping for better. Never mind.
Absolutely same - we played pretty average imo. But itll do.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: madbluboy on August 16, 2026, 06:01:25 pm
Can i just say, weitering is a demoralising teamate at times.

We need Weitering next week so he will better for the run.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: madbluboy on August 16, 2026, 06:02:18 pm
That goal should be changed to Frank the tank
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LordLucifer on August 16, 2026, 06:02:35 pm

I nearly threw the remote at the TV, if he had of fumbled the mark over the goal-line thus resulting in a point, I reckon a team-mate may have decked him.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: kruddler on August 16, 2026, 06:05:06 pm
WTF was derkson doing??

I nearly threw the remore at the TV, if he had of fumbled the mark over the goal-line thus resulting in a point, I reckon a team-mate may have decked him.

Michael Mansfield against Hawthorn. Going back with the flight of the ball attempts to take a mark in the middle of the goalsquare when it was going through.....nobody around him. Fumbles it, goes over for a point.
I said that would cost us the game.

That was the game the Ben Dixon kicked the goal after the siren to win it.
Have not, and will not, ever forget that boneheaded move.

Derkson probably trumps it......but thank f*** he held onto it so it didn't matter.
Title: Re: AFL Rd 21 2026 In Game Angst Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Post by: LP on August 16, 2026, 08:04:18 pm
Fair enough.

I suppose that's just for any supplementary ruck if no goals were scored while they are having a run in the ruck. We also rucked Cripps against TDK, Cripps beat TDK in a stoppage contest. Really, my point is about the validity of asserting Young gave us a better balance due to his rucking, but we were still rucking Cripps.

Personally, I'm not sure what the right balance is, I not a fan of Harry rucking due to the risk, but I concede that Harry rucking helps to get him involved in games when he off the boil. If we had Young rucking and Harry off the boil what would be our preferred solution?

btw., I didn't go today, I don't go to ice dome ever, but my mates messaging me have told me if not for Weitering today we would probably have lost. They said his setup behind the footy was key to our not being overrun. Does that happen with Derksen in D50?

Derksen looked a bit off kilter today, a bit lost, I sure that is an instability issue, he's been a defender for 8 or 9 weeks. But is it just a short term thing or a long term effect, why does Derksen shifting ends all of a sudden make his marking less reliable?