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Title: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: crashlander on August 20, 2026, 09:47:29 pm
I don't think we've beaten Willi in this iteration of the 2's, so I'd very much like to see that happen!
The game is at 11:05 at Willi, which doesn't suit our timing well. At least 1 senior Emergency won't be playing.

Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: crashlander on August 21, 2026, 06:32:57 pm
Our line-up:

B:   66 Sam Paea   61 Dane Harvey   42 Adam Saad
HB:   28 Harry Charleson   37 Jordan Boyd   74 Logan Prout
C:   30 Jack Ison   50 Darcy Tucker   21 Lucas Camporeale
HF:  76 Cody Walker   45 Flynn Young   57 Alwyn Davey
F:   43 Ashton Moir   40 Hudson O'Keeffe   75 Liam Farrar
R:   56 Flynn Riley   16 Ben Camporeale   8 Lachie Fogarty
Int:   58 Jack Sammartino   60 Will Reinhold   62 Oliver Warburton   70 Darcy Hogg   77 Will Cookson
Em:   72 Charlie Cotter   65 Jed Rule   68 Taj Logan   63 Ryder Corrigan   78 Tyson Gresham   64 Archie Stevens   54 Jack O'Sullivan

[1] Only 11 listed players, the least we've had all year!

[2] No Reidy, who has been very good lately. Last time Mirkov was the difference. He slaughtered Reidy early. Not sure what is wrong with Reidy either.

[3] Our structure looks pretty suspect, with our lack of KP types, but with Paea back and Reinhold still in, at least we have some talls. On the other hand, Farrar has been a consistent goal kicker since he's come up.

[4] Cody Walker: I wonder what sort of role he'll play? He's played a number of different roles of late, mainly outside. His best footy was probably as an inside mid.

[5] There is certainly a strong Carlton flavour to Willi, with Parks, Cuningham, Polson and Mirkov playing for Willi.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2026, 11:14:48 am
Carlton v Carlton with all the ex-players in the Seagulls side.
As well as our ex's Simon Minton-Connells boy Harry is also playing for Williamstown.

They have the lead with 2 early goals.
Wind will be a factor here.
The ground is so open to the elements.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2026, 11:20:47 am
3 goals to 0

Reidy and Riley (illness) both not playing.
O'Keefe has a big job.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2026, 11:24:43 am
They have the wind and are 4 goals up now.
Need to hold the margin until its our turn.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: LP on August 22, 2026, 11:32:38 am
Usual service returns, 9 shots to 2 is not caused by the wind!
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2026, 11:38:32 am
Quarter time
Williamstown 5-4-34 lead Carlton 0-3-3

Charleson 11
Boyd 8

Mirkov and Preuss combination is too strong for O'Keefe in the ruck


Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: kruddler on August 22, 2026, 11:43:28 am
They say its a 5 goal breeze, let's see.

As soon as i heard the minton-connell name i knew lods would flag it. Didn't disappoint.

In conditions like this it highlights why you need some talls... and we have none today besides HOK.

Let's see some walker magic in what will likely be his last non (afl) carlton game if we lose
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2026, 11:49:49 am
Worst trade ever :D
The bloke we got in exchange for SMC didn't amount to anything...and ended up filling up space on our board.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2026, 11:51:20 am
One goal each in the second.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2026, 11:53:20 am
To O'Keefe's credit he's not playing all that badly and is probably more involved than when anchored at FF.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2026, 11:57:06 am
They're kicking them against the wind...we're in a fair bit of strife here.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: kruddler on August 22, 2026, 11:58:25 am
HOK is doing OK, but will fade after half time.

Our defending is very poor.  We are giving them front position and with the breeze it falling in their lap.

Need to play the conditions better
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: kruddler on August 22, 2026, 12:01:41 pm
....and right in cue.

Mark and shot at goal because we played behind and the ball dropped short.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2026, 12:08:08 pm
Williamstown 9-5-59 leading Carlton 2-4-16
22 minutes gone second term
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: kruddler on August 22, 2026, 12:10:30 pm
Walker just 4 touches almost half time.

2nd round pick only
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2026, 12:17:41 pm
Half time
Williamstown 9-5-59 leading Carlton 3-4-22

Charleson 15
Ben Camporeale 14

Yep
Walker has been quiet.

Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: LP on August 22, 2026, 12:21:27 pm
They're kicking them against the wind...we're in a fair bit of strife here.
The wind is overstated, it's not that bad, it's more steady than gusty.

Gusty wind plays havoc, steady wind is a skill issue.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2026, 12:38:28 pm
Into the third now.
Ison hasn't had a great involvement to this stage but has done couple of nice things that show a bit of class.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2026, 12:46:27 pm
Seagulls out to a 47 point lead now.
Make that 53.
The party's over.

No-one really making a claim for next week.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2026, 12:48:40 pm
Probably time to pack my binoculars and head over to Marvel. ;)
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: kruddler on August 22, 2026, 12:56:03 pm
Might have seen the last game for quite a few boys today.

Campo
Moir
Fogarty
Saad
O'Keeffe
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2026, 01:03:37 pm
Ben C has done his usual false start...but has picked up his diposals as the game has gone on.
Does he hurt the other side that much is the question.
I'd personally like to see him, his brother and Charleson all get another year.
But the cut has to come somewhere.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2026, 01:07:10 pm
3/4 time
Williamstown 17-6-108 lead Carlton  3-9-27
100 point loss in the making.

Disposals

Ben C 23
Charleson 19
Boyd 19

Goalkickers
No Carlton listed players

Paea
Farrer
Hogg

Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: kruddler on August 22, 2026, 01:11:39 pm
Ben C has done his usual false start...but has picked up his diposals as the game has gone on.
Does he hurt the other side that much is the question.
I'd personally like to see him, his brother and Charleson all get another year.
But the cut has to come somewhere.

We'll see what trades we do, but they all might be saved simply because we use all our half-decent picks to get Walker.....they might be competing against a bloke likely to be taken at pick 60.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: PaulP on August 22, 2026, 01:15:45 pm
Considering the ladder position and form line of the two teams, I was hoping for a lot better than that. Hopefully the boys can show something in the last.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Baggers on August 22, 2026, 01:21:20 pm
Considering the ladder position and form line of the two teams, I was hoping for a lot better than that. Hopefully the boys can show something in the last.

Willi is a tough ground for anyone, really unique ground and very affected by the wind and rain, but let's not make excuses.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: PaulP on August 22, 2026, 01:50:16 pm
Good last quarter. At least they showed something.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2026, 01:50:48 pm
Final Score
Williamstown 19-7-121 def Carlton 12-11-83

Disposals

Ben C 35 (Not  bad from someone who doesn't get interested until quarter time.)
Charleson 27
Walker 23 (another who only played the last 3 quarters-actually he only played the last half-Had 3-4 possessions at half time.)

Goals
Paea 4
F Young 3
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: kruddler on August 22, 2026, 01:54:25 pm
Walker ended up with 23, 3rd most disposals.

Halfway through the 2nd quarter he had 3.

If thats his worst game, i'll take it.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: crashlander on August 22, 2026, 06:04:07 pm
[1] We were always going to be in trouble with the injuries we've sustained in recent weeks. With neither Reidy nor Riley available, for example, we were always going to lack ability at clearing the ball. Mirkov beat us last time when we did have Reidy, so we were always on the back foot.
We had 9 listed players, which is by far the least we've had for any game this season.

[2] Kicking 9 in the last quarter was something to hang our hats on, as we showed something. Willi may claim to have slowed down, but good teams don't do that.
Impressed that Sam Paea kicked 4: he has some talent, even if his kicking is unreliable.

[3] Ben Camporeale makes a habit of back-ending games. In almost every game he's played this season, he gets more of the ball in the second half. That is not a bad thing at all! Now, to get him to make those possessions count! 36 possessions, 5 clearances and 4 tackles was a decent game.

[4] Cody Walker: his first half didn't work, but he also very much back-ended his game. Not bad for a kid.

I can comment further later I've watched the replay, but we were always on a hiding to nothing with the players we had available.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: RiverRat on August 22, 2026, 06:18:23 pm

I can comment further later I've watched the replay, but we were always on a hiding to nothing with the players we had available.

Gave nothing and copped a hiding?
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: laj on August 22, 2026, 08:44:19 pm
Ben C looks ready for AFL but he his game style sits well back in the queue here. Hence why Kennedy is at the Bulldogs now. Alot of those types. He'd probably made a decent player at another club.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2026, 11:15:16 pm
Hewett will be 31 at the start of next season.
Ben C  with a couple more pre-seasons and a bit more experience may be able to take on that role.
Finding the ball isn't the issue with Ben.
It's what he does with it at the moment in terms of impact.
I think we might regret it if we cut him too soon.
With players like the Camporeales and Charleson there may be a few in front of them at the moment...but they represent 'young depth'.


Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Thryleon on August 23, 2026, 12:15:30 am
Hewett will be 31 at the start of next season.
Ben C  with a couple more pre-seasons and a bit more experience may be able to take on that role.
Finding the ball isn't the issue with Ben.
It's what he does with it at the moment in terms of impact.
I think we might regret it if we cut him too soon.
With players like the Camporeales and Charleson there may be a few in front of them at the moment...but they represent 'young depth'.



anyone who looks the part should be persisted with. 

Talent pool dilutes soon with tassie joining.  Players that can find the footy will be useful. 

We need to be measured with what we do moving forward.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 23, 2026, 09:27:43 am
Hewett will be 31 at the start of next season.
Ben C  with a couple more pre-seasons and a bit more experience may be able to take on that role.
Finding the ball isn't the issue with Ben.
It's what he does with it at the moment in terms of impact.
I think we might regret it if we cut him too soon.
With players like the Camporeales and Charleson there may be a few in front of them at the moment...but they represent 'young depth'.



anyone who looks the part should be persisted with. 

Talent pool dilutes soon with tassie joining.  Players that can find the footy will be useful. 

We need to be measured with what we do moving forward.
100% Thry
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: crashlander on August 29, 2026, 03:24:41 pm
A week is a long time in football. Last week Willi dominated because they won the rucks with Preuss and Mirkov, while we had only O'Keefe. A week on and Willi lose both Preuss and Mirkov by 1/4 time. The result? Essendon wipe the floor with them. I'm not sure if we can consider this fate, or a message. But it does show how important rucks can be.
Title: Re: VFL 2026 Wildcard #1 Carlton vs Williamstown
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 29, 2026, 03:44:33 pm
A week is a long time in football. Last week Willi dominated because they won the rucks with Preuss and Mirkov, while we had only O'Keefe. A week on and Willi lose both Preuss and Mirkov by 1/4 time. The result? Essendon wipe the floor with them. I'm not sure if we can consider this fate, or a message. But it does show how important rucks can be.
Yes