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Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #165 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Doc is well past his best and in his final year but FMD i wish we ripped into others on the list as much as this bloke.  Fans puts their arms around Harry and fair enough and also most support a highly paid bloke who cant control his drug habit yet no such going easy on Docherty who has heaps more runs on the board. I agree his last game last year and his 4 this year have been below standard but he is hardly on his own. How do the likes of McGovern's, Saad, Acres, Motlop, Williams, Haynes, Fogerty, Fantansa, Durdin, Young and i could go on get away with sub standard performances year after year?

Don't look at the questioning of him holding his position as ripping into him.
A lot of the comments regarding his form at the moment come from a place of deep respect for the player.
He's battled his heart out on a number of occasions to get back playing.
He's battled injury and illness...and gone above and beyond.

While we'd like to see better form from some of the players you mention we're probably not as invested with them as we are in where Docherty now sits.
We'd all love to see him hit his straps and show some good form.
What we  don't want to see is him struggling in his last games, pushing through, and reaching an end point where it ends with a bit of a whimper.

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #166 –
I certainly have been critical of Doc's form but he's about 4 or 5 players behind some other blokes who'd I'd axe based on form. That of course doesn't happen in a week but we got rid of a couple this game. I'm hoping he gets his mojo back soon, maybe he won't,  but there's still a couple who I still can't understand get a game.

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #167 –
If we are axing the players who are below their best / out of form, we would forfeit the game.

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #168 –
Player form is always relative to the team performance, the Swans are the current examp!e with only 1 or 2 down the squad looks ordinary. We've got 3 to 5 struggling and look decrepit.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #169 –
Watch King Charles dine out the next 2 weeks.

Want to see him deliver against strong opposition and do it consistently. Great to watch when on top of his game but i think that excitement clouds over his flaws.

Watching Pies key forwards last night as they are examples of no frills pure team first competitors that do their job for team every week for a hell of a lot less damage on their cap.

Our guys highlight reel is better but when you compare to what we are paying its debatable that we are getting value on that deal apart from young members signings. Add in Harrys 1M and no wonder we have no money for decent small forwards.

Pies have 3 talls that contribute and then 3 dangerous smalls at their feet. We have 2 highly paid 'Stars' and then nadda.
              

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #170 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Watch King Charles dine out the next 2 weeks.

Want to see him deliver against strong opposition and do it consistently. Great to watch when on top of his game but i think that excitement clouds over his flaws.

Watching Pies key forwards last night as they are examples of no frills pure team first competitors that do their job for team every week for a hell of a lot less damage on their cap.

Our guys highlight reel is better but when you compare to what we are paying its debatable that we are getting value on that deal apart from young members signings. Add in Harrys 1M and no wonder we have no money for decent small forwards.

Pies have 3 talls that contribute and then 3 dangerous smalls at their feet. We have 2 highly paid 'Stars' and then nadda.
              
Right now King Charles looks more like Pauper Charles. Hopefully he and Harry can kick a few, get involved and gain some semblance of form.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #171 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: shawny – on
Watch King Charles dine out the next 2 weeks.

Want to see him deliver against strong opposition and do it consistently. Great to watch when on top of his game but i think that excitement clouds over his flaws.

Watching Pies key forwards last night as they are examples of no frills pure team first competitors that do their job for team every week for a hell of a lot less damage on their cap.

Our guys highlight reel is better but when you compare to what we are paying its debatable that we are getting value on that deal apart from young members signings. Add in Harrys 1M and no wonder we have no money for decent small forwards.

Pies have 3 talls that contribute and then 3 dangerous smalls at their feet. We have 2 highly paid 'Stars' and then nadda.
              
Right now King Charles looks more like Pauper Charles. Hopefully he and Harry can kick a few, get involved and gain some semblance of form.
They won't get a better chance than vs unknowns like Edwards and Brock who play the Key defensive spots for WC.
We should win by ten goals plus....

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #172 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Right now King Charles looks more like Pauper Charles. Hopefully he and Harry can kick a few, get involved and gain some semblance of form.
They won't get a better chance than vs unknowns like Edwards and Brock who play the Key defensive spots for WC.
We should win by ten goals plus....

Yep.

In a way, we're on a hiding to nothing!

Win by 10gls plus and its... 'And so we should.'
Win by 5-10 gls and its... 'Should have won by more - still got issues.'
Win by less than 5 gls and its... 'Nowhere good enough against such a lowly opponent - still in trouble.'
Lose and its...
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #174 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on

They won't get a better chance than vs unknowns like Edwards and Brock who play the Key defensive spots for WC.
We should win by ten goals plus....

Yep.

In a way, we're on a hiding to nothing!

Win by 10gls plus and its... 'And so we should.'
Win by 5-10 gls and its... 'Should have won by more - still got issues.'
Win by less than 5 gls and its... 'Nowhere good enough against such a lowly opponent - still in trouble.'
Lose and its...
Right now, Ill take a one point win, followed by another and another rinse and repeat. Im utterly sick of the crap that goes along with losing.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #175 –
Blake Acres a late out.
 

Re: AFL Rd 5 2025 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast in Gather Round

Reply #177 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: Baggers – on


Yep.

In a way, we're on a hiding to nothing!

Win by 10gls plus and its... 'And so we should.'
Win by 5-10 gls and its... 'Should have won by more - still got issues.'
Win by less than 5 gls and its... 'Nowhere good enough against such a lowly opponent - still in trouble.'
Lose and its...
Right now, Ill take a one point win, followed by another and another rinse and repeat. Im utterly sick of the crap that goes along with losing.
Beating WC by a slender margin won't help  the club or Voss and the critics will still be in our back and nothing will change .
Need to see a good strong win with a good brand of football.
We have become a horrible team to watch with no definitive brand of play whose skills are nowhere near what we have seen in the two games so far this round.
Doesn't help playing WC who are a sub par team with poor skills and where we will probably get dragged down to their level.
Four points is a start but I want some skillful classy football where we totally dominate the opposition and keep the pressure on for 4 quarters and crush them.