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Re: The Game Plan - Better, Worse Or Non-Existent ??

Reply #45
I heard that Frawley copped a spray from team mates for carrying the ball half the ground a roosting a 60m shot at goal that was marked by a Geelong defender.  He missed spotting a team mate 30 metres away and running ahead of him.

We've got a long way to go before those disciplines are built into our game plan.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: The Game Plan - Better, Worse Or Non-Existent ??

Reply #46
My analysis of the game plan was, get the ball, kick it to an opponent, miss easy shots at the goals, always be behind your opponent when going for marks, don't run and spread when your team mate has the ball, stand in one position and point your fingers at a team mate and say pick him up, as things go badly do not go in hard and win the ball but hang out and try and tackle an opponent, do not make your tackles stick, and if you do win the ball, don't move the ball forward quickly. It was pretty much what it has been for the past 15 years, despite changes to coaching panel, players and administration. I think the philosophy at the club is that as long as we achieve mediocrity, we are reaching out goals. The target for this year is to achieve mediocrity.   but judging on last Thursday's effort, we will need to work a lot harder to achieve it.
You forgot:
- Don't attempt to smother a kick when on the mark;
- Don't try and intercept the footy
- Don't have a manic need to win the footy back after you have lost it
- Dont shepherd or block for your team mates
- Don't drop in the hole to help a team mate in defence who's caught out of position, just stare at the footy and watch it unfold (hello T Menzel)

Basically, watch Hawthorn play and inverse it.



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Re: The Game Plan - Better, Worse Or Non-Existent ??

Reply #47
Not sure what happened - a double post of sorts  ::)
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: The Game Plan - Better, Worse Or Non-Existent ??

Reply #48
You forgot:
- Don't attempt to smother a kick when on the mark;
- Don't try and intercept the footy
- Don't have a manic need to win the footy back after you have lost it
- Dont shepherd or block for your team mates
- Don't drop in the hole to help a team mate in defence who's caught out of position, just stare at the footy and watch it unfold (hello T Menzel)

Basically, watch Hawthorn play and inverse it.

You are right, I apologise for not fully analysing the game plan.

Re: The Game Plan - Better, Worse Or Non-Existent ??

Reply #49

Agree, I have seen individuals change/grow in intensity on teams that I have played in.
Mens sana in corpore sano - A healthy mind in a healthy body.

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Re: The Game Plan - Better, Worse Or Non-Existent ??

Reply #50
we are fair dinkum minnows.
we have gone backwards since almost playing deep into sept 2011.
Whats worse, it took us 9 years to get to that point. The group lacks fierce intensity that is
going to be applied in spades by others this year. Murphy is not an AFL captain, the sooner he is relieved of this position
the better things start happening. Im sorry, but the Malthouse thing isnt going to work, he is an excuse merchant, that will
mirror the team on the field. We need a walsh hinkley type, hungry for success, not a coach that plays for $$$ and has climbed the mountain
and broken records

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Reply #51
Did anyone catch AFL 360 last night. Both Roos and Buckley were commenting how the game has even changed this year, good teams have now become more offensive and old defensive structures and plans are being broken down easily. This is allowing a lot more momentum shifts and good players picking up 35+ possessions a week, creating chains of possessions to pick through outdated defensive Mindsets and structures.

Both coaches also said the old school lock down player is dead. you cannot have only player solely focuses on another without picking up 25 themselves in the midfield. If that player is solely focussed on another, they break down the team defence and allows opposition to expose and open them up.

No wonder we are falling further and further behind. Where is the modern coaching staff that can read changes in styles from year to year and implement new and innovative measures both defensively and offensively?
"We are a club in a hurry"

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Re: The Game Plan - Better, Worse Or Non-Existent ??

Reply #52
Did anyone catch AFL 360 last night. Both Roos and Buckley were commenting how the game has even changed this year, good teams have now become more offensive and old defensive structures and plans are being broken down easily. This is allowing a lot more momentum shifts and good players picking up 35+ possessions a week, creating chains of possessions to pick through outdated defensive Mindsets and structures.

Both coaches also said the old school lock down player is dead. you cannot have only player solely focuses on another without picking up 25 themselves in the midfield. If that player is solely focussed on another, they break down the team defence and allows opposition to expose and open them up.

No wonder we are falling further and further behind. Where is the modern coaching staff that can read changes in styles from year to year and implement new and innovative measures both defensively and offensively?

Firstly, good post.

Secondly, derr, it's obvious our game plan is outdated by how easily it gets dismantled!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"

Re: The Game Plan - Better, Worse Or Non-Existent ??

Reply #53
Did anyone catch AFL 360 last night. Both Roos and Buckley were commenting how the game has even changed this year, good teams have now become more offensive and old defensive structures and plans are being broken down easily. This is allowing a lot more momentum shifts and good players picking up 35+ possessions a week, creating chains of possessions to pick through outdated defensive Mindsets and structures.

Both coaches also said the old school lock down player is dead. you cannot have only player solely focuses on another without picking up 25 themselves in the midfield. If that player is solely focussed on another, they break down the team defence and allows opposition to expose and open them up.

No wonder we are falling further and further behind. Where is the modern coaching staff that can read changes in styles from year to year and implement new and innovative measures both defensively and offensively?

They're at Syd, Freo and Hawthorn.

Can't remember which luminary was pumping up the Hawks mids the other day, suggesting they've changed even the way they contest the ball.

If it looks like they will be tackled they will keep knocking the ball to advantage or quick handballs but in the hope another player gets it. Because all the players are on the same page more often that not they know where to go before the ball is even tapped there. If it ends in the hands of the opposition it doesn't matter because they get tackled immediately. It means the Hawks mids always believe they are in control of the situation.

Who is the Hawks midfield coach again?...........
You can fool some of the people some of the time.......................................

Re: The Game Plan - Better, Worse Or Non-Existent ??

Reply #54
They're at Syd, Freo and Hawthorn.

Can't remember which luminary was pumping up the Hawks mids the other day, suggesting they've changed even the way they contest the ball.

If it looks like they will be tackled they will keep knocking the ball to advantage or quick handballs but in the hope another player gets it. Because all the players are on the same page more often that not they know where to go before the ball is even tapped there. If it ends in the hands of the opposition it doesn't matter because they get tackled immediately. It means the Hawks mids always believe they are in control of the situation.

Who is the Hawks midfield coach again?...........

The biggest difference I have noticed in AFL over the last two seasons in that the better clubs don't take possession of the ball!

They tap it free, fumble it free, drop it free, all apparently by complete chance in their favor! If an opponent is stupid enough to step in and try and pick it up he is smashed. The bloke picking up the ball is target fodder!

Further some of the KPPs deliberately fail to mark the ball because a mark breaks momentum. Often they fudge the mark to try and make sure it falls to their team-mates advantage rather than take control and slow the play!

Another thing, have a look at a the first few rounds this season and watch the amount of tunnel ball, it is just bizarre! That used to be deemed a throw in the old days regardless of how the ball came to be on the ground!

You may also have noticed that twice this season Hodge has run past the ball and buried his shoulder into an opponents chest. No free kick, not report, not even a mention at the MRP. Last year and for the last few years this was a charging offense. When did that change?

Finally, the number of throws, gives, Crow throws, incorrect disposals has gone up exponentially! The AFL may as well just give the handball rule away because they way they police it now it's become unenforceable!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"

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Reply #55
They're at Syd, Freo and Hawthorn.

.................................

Who is the Hawks midfield coach again?...........

How does he get along with SOS?
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: The Game Plan - Better, Worse Or Non-Existent ??

Reply #56

He (Ratts) was a Kernahan appointment.

Not sure what the dynamic is with these old '95 guys.

You can fool some of the people some of the time.......................................

 

Re: The Game Plan - Better, Worse Or Non-Existent ??

Reply #57

Ask Fraser Brown! ;)
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"