Re: RD 7 : BLUES Lost To PIES (Lambasting & Liabilities) Reply #105 – May 03, 2014, 12:40:23 pm Quote from: PaulP – on May 03, 2014, 12:34:55 pmQuote from: cookie2 – on May 03, 2014, 12:30:57 pmThe big reservation I have about playing too many of the kids is the exposure they would get to our poor seniors culture atm. We have to find a way to mitigate that influence IMO. Kids only learn from their senior mentors on field and ours are a real worry!MM said in his presser that the kids would get about 15 games total. BTW Cookie, enjoy your WA safari. , I will mate! BTW, said pig doesn't sometimes lurk on the Canning Stock Route does she? Quote Selected Last Edit: May 03, 2014, 12:42:00 pm by cookie2
Re: RD 7 : BLUES Lost To PIES (Lambasting & Liabilities) Reply #106 – May 03, 2014, 12:47:29 pm Quote from: PaulP – on May 03, 2014, 12:34:55 pmMM said in his presser that the kids would get about 15 games total. BTW Cookie, enjoy your WA safari.Better clarify that, he said 15 games each collectively and that is made up of practice matches, VFL matches & AFL games. Quote Selected
Re: RD 7 : BLUES Lost To PIES (Lambasting & Liabilities) Reply #107 – May 03, 2014, 12:58:35 pm Quote from: cookie2 – on May 03, 2014, 12:40:23 pmQuote from: PaulP – on May 03, 2014, 12:34:55 pmQuote from: cookie2 – on May 03, 2014, 12:30:57 pmThe big reservation I have about playing too many of the kids is the exposure they would get to our poor seniors culture atm. We have to find a way to mitigate that influence IMO. Kids only learn from their senior mentors on field and ours are a real worry!MM said in his presser that the kids would get about 15 games total. BTW Cookie, enjoy your WA safari. , I will mate! BTW, said pig doesn't sometimes lurk on the Canning Stock Route does she? Watch out cookie - she's bonkers. Quote Selected
Re: RD 7 : BLUES Lost To PIES (Lambasting & Liabilities) Reply #108 – May 03, 2014, 12:59:56 pm Quote from: TheSheik – on May 03, 2014, 12:47:29 pmQuote from: PaulP – on May 03, 2014, 12:34:55 pmMM said in his presser that the kids would get about 15 games total. BTW Cookie, enjoy your WA safari.Better clarify that, he said 15 games each collectively and that is made up of practice matches, VFL matches & AFL games.I'll take your word for it Sheik. The overall impression is that we won't be seeing them too much in the seniors, despite the wishes of some on here. Must be tanking. Quote Selected
Re: RD 7 : BLUES Lost To PIES (Lambasting & Liabilities) Reply #109 – May 03, 2014, 01:15:00 pm Well, he could pick ANY body and they would have contributed more than Daisy and Lucas last night.Seriously this coach need help.Said it last year. The club should INSIST he gets good assistants, the current pumpkins are just yes men hand picked by MM to keep himself safe. Quote Selected
Re: RD 7 : BLUES Lost To PIES (Lambasting & Liabilities) Reply #110 – May 03, 2014, 01:17:54 pm Also.Mick said we had "passengers" yesterday. So can we assume whoever get's dropped this week is a passenger.For me the two biggest were Lucas an Daisy, so lets see if MM backs up his words. Quote Selected
Re: RD 7 : BLUES Lost To PIES (Lambasting & Liabilities) Reply #111 – May 03, 2014, 01:20:51 pm Get serious and make a real statement - drop Gibbs and/or Walker. Quote Selected
Re: RD 7 : BLUES Lost To PIES (Lambasting & Liabilities) Reply #112 – May 03, 2014, 01:30:50 pm Last night's result shouldn't come as a surprise.We had 6 first choice players out and of those 5 would be in our best 10, very few teams would be able to cover them, our list is no better than average with everyone up and available but there's no quick fix.If you pick up 3 good players every off season you've done well and at least one of them is usually a green as grass kid who will take a couple of years to show his stuff, so as supporters we have no real choice other than to be patient and hope that we have finally addressed our pathetic recruiting record.Some of the youngsters showed good form in a bad team performance last night so that's one positive to take away from the game, but until we get somewhere near our best 22 on the park there will be more losses, unless Yarran, Waite and Carrazzo come up for next week we'll struggle against St Kilda. Quote Selected
Re: RD 7 : BLUES Lost To PIES (Lambasting & Liabilities) Reply #113 – May 03, 2014, 01:55:54 pm I went to the game last night and what was as clear as day is that "confidence" or lack there of was our biggest issue and in turn caused us so many turnovers, so many slow plays, so many rushed kicks as first options were hardly ever taken.. Forget game plan, once Collingwood got in front, Carlton as a whole team (minus Buckley) went into their shells.. It was so clear to see.. I reckon once they heard Waite was out, Carrazzo was out, and Yarran was out, they reacted like the supporters did thinking oh well we wont win.. We gave it a crack for the first few minutes, but once Collingwood got back in front they all seem to accept their fate and went to water... There was so much hesitation and its all caused by their lack of confidence and going back into their shell..Walker during the week was spot on, that our best football is when we take the game on... Well that involves risks and confidence.. We didn't take risks until the game was gone and we had nothing to lose.. Only then did we start to kick goals which gave us more confidence. That then gave us more goals because we took more risks.. I truley believe this team plays its best football when it has nothing to lose.. Its something Mick has to get out of the groups mindset.. But its almost an impossible task. Ive never seen a team hesitate or go into its shell like we did last night... Players didnt even have confidence to hit up a 20m pass at times.. It was awful.. Quote Selected Last Edit: May 03, 2014, 01:57:34 pm by Dirty Harry
Re: RD 7 : BLUES Lost To PIES (Lambasting & Liabilities) Reply #114 – May 03, 2014, 02:03:15 pm Quote from: PaulP – on May 03, 2014, 12:58:35 pmQuote from: cookie2 – on May 03, 2014, 12:40:23 pmQuote from: PaulP – on May 03, 2014, 12:34:55 pmQuote from: cookie2 – on May 03, 2014, 12:30:57 pmThe big reservation I have about playing too many of the kids is the exposure they would get to our poor seniors culture atm. We have to find a way to mitigate that influence IMO. Kids only learn from their senior mentors on field and ours are a real worry!MM said in his presser that the kids would get about 15 games total. BTW Cookie, enjoy your WA safari. , I will mate! BTW, said pig doesn't sometimes lurk on the Canning Stock Route does she? Watch out cookie - she's bonkers.Speaking of bonkers, what's up with some of the women at the ground. I can handle the yelling, fair enough but what's the deal with the full on shrills? It's like sitting in a cockatoo cage. Not that some men are much better but fark me it's difficult to handle. Quote Selected
Re: RD 7 : BLUES Lost To PIES (Lambasting & Liabilities) Reply #115 – May 03, 2014, 02:06:43 pm Its interesting with our little resurgences in the last qtr of footy. Why is this happening? is it the players just not caring if they fk up anymore and just doing what they want? Collingwood would have been wary of this going into the match and they still couldn't halt us. Quote Selected
Re: RD 7 : BLUES Lost To PIES (Lambasting & Liabilities) Reply #116 – May 03, 2014, 02:08:29 pm Quote from: BeNavy – on May 03, 2014, 02:06:43 pmIts interesting with our little resurgences in the last qtr of footy. Why is this happening? is it the players just not caring if they fk up anymore and just doing what they want? Collingwood would have been wary of this going into the match and they still couldn't halt us.At least it shows we're fit. Quote Selected
Re: RD 7 : BLUES Lost To PIES (Lambasting & Liabilities) Reply #117 – May 03, 2014, 02:25:51 pm Quote from: blue4life – on May 03, 2014, 02:08:29 pmQuote from: BeNavy – on May 03, 2014, 02:06:43 pmIts interesting with our little resurgences in the last qtr of footy. Why is this happening? is it the players just not caring if they fk up anymore and just doing what they want? Collingwood would have been wary of this going into the match and they still couldn't halt us.At least it shows we're fit. Or they didn't work hard enough when the game was up for grabs. Quote Selected
Re: RD 7 : BLUES Lost To PIES (Lambasting & Liabilities) Reply #118 – May 03, 2014, 02:26:46 pm Quote from: Dirty Harry – on May 03, 2014, 01:55:54 pmI went to the game last night and what was as clear as day is that "confidence" or lack there of was our biggest issue and in turn caused us so many turnovers, so many slow plays, so many rushed kicks as first options were hardly ever taken.. Forget game plan, once Collingwood got in front, Carlton as a whole team (minus Buckley) went into their shells.. It was so clear to see.. I reckon once they heard Waite was out, Carrazzo was out, and Yarran was out, they reacted like the supporters did thinking oh well we wont win.. We gave it a crack for the first few minutes, but once Collingwood got back in front they all seem to accept their fate and went to water... There was so much hesitation and its all caused by their lack of confidence and going back into their shell..Walker during the week was spot on, that our best football is when we take the game on... Well that involves risks and confidence.. We didn't take risks until the game was gone and we had nothing to lose.. Only then did we start to kick goals which gave us more confidence. That then gave us more goals because we took more risks.. I truley believe this team plays its best football when it has nothing to lose.. Its something Mick has to get out of the groups mindset.. But its almost an impossible task. Ive never seen a team hesitate or go into its shell like we did last night... Players didnt even have confidence to hit up a 20m pass at times.. It was awful..I though we looked like the Tigers have a couple of times this year. Quote Selected
Re: RD 7 : BLUES Lost To PIES (Lambasting & Liabilities) Reply #119 – May 03, 2014, 02:36:29 pm Quote from: Dirty Harry – on May 03, 2014, 01:55:54 pmI went to the game last night and what was as clear as day is that "confidence" or lack there of was our biggest issue and in turn caused us so many turnovers, so many slow plays, so many rushed kicks as first options were hardly ever taken.. Forget game plan, once Collingwood got in front, Carlton as a whole team (minus Buckley) went into their shells.. It was so clear to see.. I reckon once they heard Waite was out, Carrazzo was out, and Yarran was out, they reacted like the supporters did thinking oh well we wont win.. We gave it a crack for the first few minutes, but once Collingwood got back in front they all seem to accept their fate and went to water... There was so much hesitation and its all caused by their lack of confidence and going back into their shell..Walker during the week was spot on, that our best football is when we take the game on... Well that involves risks and confidence.. We didn't take risks until the game was gone and we had nothing to lose.. Only then did we start to kick goals which gave us more confidence. That then gave us more goals because we took more risks.. I truley believe this team plays its best football when it has nothing to lose.. Its something Mick has to get out of the groups mindset.. But its almost an impossible task. Ive never seen a team hesitate or go into its shell like we did last night... Players didnt even have confidence to hit up a 20m pass at times.. It was awful..Agree - the difference between our best and worst is entirely between the ears. Quote Selected