Re: Casboult's Hands The Best In The Busniness Reply #15 – July 08, 2014, 02:30:48 pm In fairness he did try and make amends by thanking Carlton for having given him his opportunity at AFL, during his retirement speech/statement. For my own selfish reasoning I regarded his attempt at redemption hollow, I'm sure I was/still suffering from a sense of rejection. Quote Selected
Re: Casboult's Hands The Best In The Busniness Reply #16 – July 08, 2014, 02:36:44 pm Casboult does have good hands, it's probably a bit early to call it anything greater than that atm. His kicking has definitely improved a lot too, which is great. I love watching him play !! Quote Selected
Re: Casboult's Hands The Best In The Busniness Reply #17 – July 08, 2014, 02:45:25 pm AH wasnt exactly the best kick, his kicking action was just as unsightly as Cas's. The difference was his ability to get to contests and batter the opposition. I don't mind if Cas's kicking isn't 100 percent provided he improves his fitness and competes at high intensity for large portions of games Quote Selected
Re: Casboult's Hands The Best In The Busniness Reply #18 – July 08, 2014, 03:07:56 pm I did some analysis just after Casboult played his 10th game, comparing his output over those first 10 games with the first 10 games played by some of the game's greatest ever power forwards. Casboult came a close second on that table to only Wayne Carey himself.I posted it all on here at the time and suggested that the data, just by itself, suggested that we needed to invest in Casboult and see how he developed. I was brutally shot down on here at the time I posted it, so I'm glad to see the club went with an approach similar to what I was advocating and it's now starting to pay dividends .Get the boy signed up and let's review again at 50 games! Quote Selected
Re: Casboult's Hands The Best In The Busniness Reply #19 – July 08, 2014, 03:22:54 pm he would be better mark if we had quality midds who can deliver the pill. Quote Selected
Re: Casboult's Hands The Best In The Busniness Reply #20 – July 08, 2014, 03:30:08 pm Quote from: nathbear – on July 08, 2014, 03:07:56 pmI did some analysis just after Casboult played his 10th game, comparing his output over those first 10 games with the first 10 games played by some of the game's greatest ever power forwards. Casboult came a close second on that table to only Wayne Carey himself.FFS, Carey really! By the time Carey had been around Norp for 4 ~ 5 years he averaged nearly 3 goals a game and 7+ contested marks, that is 7 Contested Marks! In Carey's 4th season he ranked number #1 at Norp, not #2, #5 or #14, that's #1! Carey also ranked #6 in the VFL averages the same year, #6 in the competition wide averages!After the same number of years Casboult averages less than 1 goal and 5.3 marks in total, he is currently ranked #242 on averages(Last year #478 on averages)!La Vie En Rose Nathbear! Quote Selected
Re: Casboult's Hands The Best In The Busniness Reply #21 – July 08, 2014, 04:37:27 pm Quote from: denimundies – on July 08, 2014, 02:30:48 pmIn fairness he did try and make amends by thanking Carlton for having given him his opportunity at AFL, during his retirement speech/statement. For my own selfish reasoning I regarded his attempt at redemption hollow, I'm sure I was/still suffering from a sense of rejection.Did he go to the 150th celebrations? Quote Selected
Re: Casboult's Hands The Best In The Busniness Reply #22 – July 08, 2014, 04:41:32 pm Quote from: denimundies – on July 08, 2014, 02:30:48 pmIn fairness he did try and make amends by thanking Carlton for having given him his opportunity at AFL, during his retirement speech/statement. For my own selfish reasoning I regarded his attempt at redemption hollow, I'm sure I was/still suffering from a sense of rejection.This was the first time I could remember a player leaving us by choice and it hurt badly. I hated Hamill for this as he was one of my favs and the next Carlton captain (they gave him #4 for a reason). Even though he tasted little success at the Aints, he sure as hell set himself up for the future. Quote Selected
Re: Casboult's Hands The Best In The Busniness Reply #23 – July 08, 2014, 04:43:58 pm Quote from: Jeffy38 – on July 08, 2014, 04:37:27 pmQuote from: denimundies – on July 08, 2014, 02:30:48 pmIn fairness he did try and make amends by thanking Carlton for having given him his opportunity at AFL, during his retirement speech/statement. For my own selfish reasoning I regarded his attempt at redemption hollow, I'm sure I was/still suffering from a sense of rejection.Did he go to the 150th celebrations?I'm not sure Jeffy, I didn't go. But if not mistaken I recall one or two others in here having written that they had gone, they may be able to answer that Q Quote Selected
Re: Casboult's Hands The Best In The Busniness Reply #24 – July 08, 2014, 04:46:29 pm Quote from: LP – on July 08, 2014, 03:30:08 pmQuote from: nathbear – on July 08, 2014, 03:07:56 pmI did some analysis just after Casboult played his 10th game, comparing his output over those first 10 games with the first 10 games played by some of the game's greatest ever power forwards. Casboult came a close second on that table to only Wayne Carey himself.FFS, Carey really! By the time Carey had been around Norp for 4 ~ 5 years he averaged nearly 3 goals a game and 7+ contested marks, that is 7 Contested Marks! In Carey's 4th season he ranked number #1 at Norp, not #2, #5 or #14, that's #1! Carey also ranked #6 in the VFL averages the same year, #6 in the competition wide averages!After the same number of years Casboult averages less than 1 goal and 5.3 marks in total, he is currently ranked #242 on averages(Last year #478 on averages)!La Vie En Rose Nathbear!The comparison was after 10 games played, champ, you may have missed that in your irrational desire to lash out at every post I make for no apparent reason. Quote Selected
Re: Casboult's Hands The Best In The Busniness Reply #25 – July 08, 2014, 08:17:43 pm Quote from: nathbear – on July 08, 2014, 04:46:29 pmThe comparison was after 10 games played, champ, you may have missed that in your irrational desire to lash out at every post I make for no apparent reason.Carey got his ten games up as a 19 year old in his 2nd season, how many years and at what age did it take Casboult to get his ten champ? Carey, FFS, stop posting crap comparisons and I won't have an issue, champ! Quote Selected
Re: Casboult's Hands The Best In The Busniness Reply #26 – July 08, 2014, 08:47:55 pm Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on July 08, 2014, 04:41:32 pmQuote from: denimundies – on July 08, 2014, 02:30:48 pmIn fairness he did try and make amends by thanking Carlton for having given him his opportunity at AFL, during his retirement speech/statement. For my own selfish reasoning I regarded his attempt at redemption hollow, I'm sure I was/still suffering from a sense of rejection.This was the first time I could remember a player leaving us by choice and it hurt badly. I hated Hamill for this as he was one of my favs and the next Carlton captain (they gave him #4 for a reason). Even though he tasted little success at the Aints, he sure as hell set himself up for the future.Yeah it was the first time in my memory for a player to reject us as well, back then no one left carlton. It hit hard, made worse by what followed shortly thereafter. Was Allison managing him at the time? Quote Selected
Re: Casboult's Hands The Best In The Busniness Reply #27 – July 08, 2014, 09:26:08 pm I too enjoyed the show that Casboult put on on the weekend. What i want to see is forward set plays that gets him isolated one out in front of goal. The opposition sides have been quick to show respect often double and even triple teaming in marking contests.Just my humble opinion... Quote Selected
Re: Casboult's Hands The Best In The Busniness Reply #28 – July 09, 2014, 07:40:31 am Quote from: bobby – on July 08, 2014, 09:26:08 pmWhat i want to see is forward set plays that gets him isolated one out in front of goal.Why can't we be different and have a stay at home full forward who isn't part of the flood. It ultimately means that we might have one less around the ball, but let's back our on ballers to get it out often enough to make the opposition dance to our music. We have reputedly the best set of hands in the league, let's use them. Quote Selected
Re: Casboult's Hands The Best In The Busniness Reply #29 – July 09, 2014, 09:30:27 am Surely the 'set play' is a high ball to the hot spot with another tall forward to draw and block defenders.Casboult is quite good at losing his direct opponent by a leading to the kicker then doubling back. Quote Selected