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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #525 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
The locals have more interest in their Premier league 20/20 local comp that gets played between the islands than they do in the traditional formats, why would you want to play test cricket and
get paid peanuts when the short format specialists get so much more?......not many Windies players in county cricket anymore, they dont want to learn how to play the longer formats of the game that require technique and more hard work to learn.

These blokes cant even field properly..its comical watching them ....the IPL has stuffed Test Cricket for the poorer nations IMO, only hope is if the ICC pump more money into the longer game but with India holding the whip hand at the ICC table and running the IPL its not going to happen and I fear we may lose the Windies as a test playing team..

I think that will be inevitable unless the ICC takes action to rein in the IPL and support Caribbean cricket . . . and that's unlikely to happen.

Perhaps the long term saviour will be the re-kindled interest in cricket in the USA.  I read that it is one of the fastest growing games and there is a demand for expats to both teach and bolster the game.  Of course, it will be vital to ensure that it's the longer forms of the game that take off.
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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #526 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
The locals have more interest in their Premier league 20/20 local comp that gets played between the islands than they do in the traditional formats, why would you want to play test cricket and
get paid peanuts when the short format specialists get so much more?......not many Windies players in county cricket anymore, they dont want to learn how to play the longer formats of the game that require technique and more hard work to learn.

These blokes cant even field properly..its comical watching them ....the IPL has stuffed Test Cricket for the poorer nations IMO, only hope is if the ICC pump more money into the longer game but with India holding the whip hand at the ICC table and running the IPL its not going to happen and I fear we may lose the Windies as a test playing team..

I think you are on the ball, there are rumblings behind the scenes of a move by the old establishment to formulate a rescue package, primarily the Windies talking with England, Australia and Sth Africa. But it's hard to see where the money will come from, the Windies themselves are reported to be almost broke and the other nations are almost dependant on India.
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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #527 –
LP and DJ.....a rescue package will have to be independent of the ICC IMO and organised by countries like Australia, England and South Africa...

The USA cricket push has merit and interest and I have no doubt the ICC would love to have a team playing out of the US and foster the game there.

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #528 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
The USA cricket push has merit and interest and I have no doubt the ICC would love to have a team playing out of the US and foster the game there.

Do not know about the USA, but there was a massive push on a few years back to get Sth America involved. I know Columbia, Venezuela and Argentina had teams back in the early 2000s and competed in a Sth American Championship. Columbia and Venezuela produced a few county cricketers.

This list is not current cricket countries, but it is a list of countries where you can subscribe to watch cricket on streaming services so I assume it has some following in those locations.

https://www.cricketwireless.com/support/plans-and-features/international-features/customer/international-countries.html
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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #529 –
The West Indies are a very sad case indeed. Imagine they had Holding, Garner, Marshal, Richards, Lloyd, Haynes, Greenidge, Logie, Walsh, Lara and now they have what ?? What they are displaying on the field is a very sad story considering so many greats of the past are still watching. 20/20 cricket is potentially destroying the best game in the world apart from AFL football. Test cricket has always been the ultimate form of the sport. One day format is very entertaining, especially with Gilchrist/Warner types putting on a great show. However test cricket on Boxing day is just great to watch. Boring when I see what the Windies are about at the moment. I can't even call it a joke. How people justify the ticket entry fee is beyond me.
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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #530 –
I disagree. I drove my son 2 hours to the G today. Saw the best batsman in the world make a ton, and a 36 year old do the same and bring up his 1000 runs in a calendar year, when he probably thought his chances were over a couple of years ago. Then we watched Australia's best ever off spinner take a couple of wickets, and two Victorian quicks pick up a couple of wickets each, including one on a hat trick. It was a great day. The best bit was we were chatting walking out of the great stadium about how we are used to seeing one-sided contests at the G, but this time the 2 hour drive home was going to be a lot more fun than usual!

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #531 –
Quote from: Jack Burton – on
I disagree. I drove my son 2 hours to the G today. Saw the best batsman in the world make a ton, and a 36 year old do the same and bring up his 1000 runs in a calendar year, when he probably thought his chances were over a couple of years ago. Then we watched Australia's best ever off spinner take a couple of wickets, and two Victorian quicks pick up a couple of wickets each, including one on a hat trick. It was a great day. The best bit was we were chatting walking out of the great stadium about how we are used to seeing one-sided contests at the G, but this time the 2 hour drive home was going to be a lot more fun than usual!

Did you see a contest Jack?.......the worlds best batsman on paper made runs vs the worlds worst attack that had to bowl part time spinners to make the over rate happen....
I enjoyed Pattinson bowling...pace with reverse swing...thats worth seeing...
Nathan Lyon ..Aus best offie?.....not for me...I'd have Ashley Mallet ahead of him as a bowler and Mallet was a gun gully fielder as well

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #532 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Did you see a contest Jack?.......the worlds best batsman on paper made runs vs the worlds worst attack that had to bowl part time spinners to make the over rate happen....
I enjoyed Pattinson bowling...pace with reverse swing...thats worth seeing...
Nathan Lyon ..Aus best offie?.....not for me...I'd have Ashley Mallet ahead of him as a bowler and Mallet was a gun gully fielder as well

Lyon is our most successful off spinner in terms of wickets taken but I wouldn't say he's our best.  It's hard to compare players from different eras but I would rank Lyon 4th or 5th with Trumble, Mallett and Johnson ahead of him and Yardley fighting it out with him for 4th spot.

While it hasn't been much of a contest, there has been plenty of action and the home side doing well is always decent entertainment, particularly for young folk.  Hopefully, the Windies will be a little more competitive today.

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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #533 –
IMO Lyons last 18 months make him the best offie we've had.

Playing on decks that give nothing and bats like railway sleepers.

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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #534 –
You're missing the point EB. When you do the 2 hour drive each way every week, it feels so good to walk away feeling happy!!!!

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #535 –
Mallett is the best off-spinner I've seen in Australia, but Lyon has improved one helluva lot recentlu to the point of being not too much behind him.

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #536 –
Quote from: laj – on
Mallett is the best off-spinner I've seen in Australia, but Lyon has improved one helluva lot recentlu to the point of being not too much behind him.

I rated Mallet better because he played in a tougher era of cricket IMO....happy to agree that Lyon has improved though and I guess the stats back Lyon of recent times but bowling to Graeme Pollock and Barry Richards is a bit different than rolling the arm over vs Marlon Samuels and Darren Bravo....

Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #537 –
Now the 2nd test has been won and the Windies have shown some fight, there may be a little less trash talk. Then again, there may not.
I really did a number on Warner: he has barely made a run against the Windies. However, statistically he usually starts a season strongly and fizzles somewhat towards the end. That has certainly been the case this season.
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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #538 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
Now the 2nd test has been won and the Windies have shown some fight, there may be a little less trash talk. Then again, there may not.
I really did a number on Warner: he has barely made a run against the Windies. However, statistically he usually starts a season strongly and fizzles somewhat towards the end. That has certainly been the case this season.

They did fight back better, but we missed some opportunities. Not confident they will do well up at Sydney. We will be missing Siddle with foot issues. If Warner finds any of his form come back, he will rip the Windies bowling line up a new one for sure.
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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #539 –
Pattinson, Hazlewood, Lyon, Marsh and another spinner in Sydney; probably O'Keefe?

I'd go with Maxwell but that's probably too left field.  Besides, O'Keefe is a New South Welshman  ;)
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