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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1905 –
Opening bowlers actually moved the ball,  must have shocked Kohli that they had the effrontery not to have pies thrown at them as per usual.  The old off cutter,  oldie but a goodie. Where was it in the test series?

Finch is embarrassing himself. Ingrained technical flaw.

Was worried when Dhoni and Rohit got going,  our record versus those two us poor,  very poor.

Oh,  and nice to see Langer continue the "exclusion policy" on Maxwell.   Give it a rest Justin. Stay strong Maxy.
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Reply #1906 –
I would drop Finch and open with Maxwell
Could win us a world cup

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Reply #1907 –
At the moment Finch looks cooked. His confidence is low. No matter how good a one day or 20:20 captain he may be, he isn't getting any runs and he needs to. I have him playing for the Renegades in the Big Bash. It gives him a chance to discover some form before he truly is flicked for good.
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Reply #1908 –
On Matthew Wade, I'm glad he hasn't been selected.

Let's remember, he's had a fair run at Test level (22 matches) and has an average of 28.6 from 38 innings (with the benefit of 7 not-outs, batting down the order). By way of comparison, Hanscomb averages 39 and he's not up to it either at the moment.

At Test level, Wade is a mile off being a batsman. Even if Paine were injured, I wouldn't pick him, as his keeping is ordinary. His recent Shield form, I reckon, just shows that playing some Test cricket can make you much better at a lower level.

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Reply #1909 –
The reason they gave for not selecting Wade simply don't stack up - no way does it pass the pub test.

If the selectors want to be consistent and fair - well say they have decided to blood young players - and act accordingly.

I think if Wade hadn't played Test level cricket previously he would have got the nod - his poor record worked against him.....

If he has another season of dominating at Shield level, then a rethink is warranted.

An Hohns shoud be put out to pasture.....
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Reply #1910 –
Wade getting picked has nothing to do with his form IMO, he is seen as part of the supposed neanderthal poor culture that CA is trying to clean out
and replace with the squeaky clean Tim Paine choir boy crew.
Wade got picked previously when CA wanted more mongrel in the team but that of course has all changed with the sandpaper trio dragging Aus cricket into the mud and I'd say Wade's cards are marked unless we get a lot of injuries.
 

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Reply #1911 –
Agree 100% EB, if youre not a choir boy you will not be selected at the moment. Runs and wickets are almost irrelevant

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Reply #1912 –
Quote from: Jack Burton – on
Agree 100% EB, if youre not a choir boy you will not be selected at the moment. Runs and wickets are almost irrelevant

Yet Smith, Warner and Bancroft will be rushed back into the team ASAP.

The garbage about Wade batting higher in the order is just code for "we don't think you're good enough".  When two out of the three selectors are so far removed from modern day cricket and have a history of favouring under-performing players, there's no chance that we will get a Test team comprising the best in-form players.
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Reply #1913 –
Does anyone want to tell CA that the BBL is heading for crisis?? Just on 20k at the G last night!  Take the 4 best players out and expect people to turn up??  That’s almost an insult. No more teams, cut the season back, and have the country’s best playing in the comp! And another complication, these OS players can play in Bangladesh gor less than half the time for double the pay. Do something quickly or it will receive the ‘last rites!’

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Reply #1914 –
How can a county like Bangladesh,  with entrenched poverty etc,  justify paying blow ins a fortune to play in a meaningless display event?   Haven't got they got real issues to address?

The BBL does have issues... Went to GMHBA on a free pass,  Renegades lost both games by multiples. Batted like they didn't care from the outset.   Guy behind us had flown from Brisbane,  they won but you wouldnt say he was entertained for the time and money he shelled out.   Value for money?  Don't see it myself.
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Reply #1915 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
Does anyone want to tell CA that the BBL is heading for crisis?? Just on 20k at the G last night!  Take the 4 best players out and expect people to turn up??  That’s almost an insult. No more teams, cut the season back, and have the country’s best playing in the comp! And another complication, these OS players can play in Bangladesh gor less than half the time for double the pay. Do something quickly or it will receive the ‘last rites!’

Yep, you can see a mile off that CA are in the process of wringing the neck of the Golden Goose.
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Reply #1916 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Wade getting picked has nothing to do with his form IMO, he is seen as part of the supposed neanderthal poor culture that CA is trying to clean out
and replace with the squeaky clean Tim Paine choir boy crew.

That's a little harsh on Paine mate......he was exactly what the national side needed as captain in the wake of that moment of stupidity in SAF.  And if you're being fair, Paine is finally getting the games that should have been his years ago, before Wade was even in the picture.  Having said that, you have to reward performances...and Wade would be in any side as a specialist Batsman given that criteria.

And Maxwells treatment is nothing short of restraint of trade........and I'm from Tassie, so no Vic bias here !



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Re: Australian Cricket - Crisis, What Crisis ??

Reply #1917 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
Does anyone want to tell CA that the BBL is heading for crisis?? Just on 20k at the G last night!  Take the 4 best players out and expect people to turn up??  That’s almost an insult. No more teams, cut the season back, and have the country’s best playing in the comp! And another complication, these OS players can play in Bangladesh gor less than half the time for double the pay. Do something quickly or it will receive the ‘last rites!’
Rubbish scheduling, given that it was up against day 1 of the Aus Open.

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Reply #1918 –
It has ALWAYS been an issue batting lower than the top 4 in Shield cricket.
If Wade wants to play Test Cricket as a batsman he needs to get up the order.
Paine is a far better glove man and bat. Choir boy or not, Wade is not in the same league

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Reply #1919 –
Quote from: DamonBlue – on
On Matthew Wade, I'm glad he hasn't been selected.

Let's remember, he's had a fair run at Test level (22 matches) and has an average of 28.6 from 38 innings (with the benefit of 7 not-outs, batting down the order). By way of comparison, Hanscomb averages 39 and he's not up to it either at the moment.

At Test level, Wade is a mile off being a batsman. Even if Paine were injured, I wouldn't pick him, as his keeping is ordinary. His recent Shield form, I reckon, just shows that playing some Test cricket can make you much better at a lower level.

Those days as a keeper, right now the focus is on batting. Makes a difference. His first stint in the Test Team he went well with two centuries and a numbers of 50's. average in the mid-30s. He lost the job because he was $hit with the gloves. Second  stint he did bat badly and sunk the average. Right now he's the in-form batsman in Shield cricket averaging over 50 last year and 63 this year. To me that is straight in the side, especially given some of the $hit we have selected before him.

We gone from aggressive, in your face type players to being too nice. We need the mongrel back. Warner, Wade and probably Pattinson will help that along. We are at our best when we are hard and very aggressive. Rather be arseholes and winning than nice guys losing all the time. As long as they leave the sandpaper in the dressing room as we don't want to be cheating either.