Carlton's Ball Butchers November 06, 2014, 11:08:31 pm Interested in the forums faithful on ranking our players out of 10 on their ability to hit targets 30m-50m…..think we just lost a 2-3 in Mitch Robinson….Hawthorn seem to have developed a zero tolerance policy to any players on their list that can't execute basic foot skills in hitting targets….hence back to back flags and looking a big chance for a 3peatI would rank our best precision kicks currently as 7-9 ranked from 10 asGibbsMurphywas Scotland but retired….MensalYazzI'm scratching my head to get anyone else in that high bracket…any thoughts?Butchers in the 4 and undersArmfieldCasboultBellCurfewLucas goneWarnock…if he gets a kickCarrazzolot of average kicks 5-7 amongst the rest including Simmo unfortunately..great courage but high ball drop…like Carrots…like Bolt…poor technique kills us…why do they turn up each year after a summer where they can refine their skills and turn up with the same crap skills…got my head in on this Quote Selected
Re: Carlton's Ball Butchers Reply #2 – November 07, 2014, 10:39:14 am Quote from: Gags10 – on November 06, 2014, 11:08:31 pmInterested in the forums faithful on ranking our players out of 10 on their ability to hit targets 30m-50m…..think we just lost a 2-3 in Mitch Robinson….Hawthorn seem to have developed a zero tolerance policy to any players on their list that can't execute basic foot skills in hitting targets….hence back to back flags and looking a big chance for a 3peatI would rank our best precision kicks currently as 7-9 ranked from 10 asGibbsMurphywas Scotland but retired….MensalYazzI'm scratching my head to get anyone else in that high bracket…any thoughts?Butchers in the 4 and undersArmfieldCasboultBellCurfewLucas goneWarnock…if he gets a kickCarrazzolot of average kicks 5-7 amongst the rest including Simmo unfortunately..great courage but high ball drop…like Carrots…like Bolt…poor technique kills us…why do they turn up each year after a summer where they can refine their skills and turn up with the same crap skills…got my head in on thisJacksh is a very nice kick of the footy and Henderson doesnt have a bad technique...agree on the technical stuff about the ball drop...too high and some drop the ball with two hands and dont guide itonto the foot... Quote Selected
Re: Carlton's Ball Butchers Reply #3 – November 07, 2014, 12:14:20 pm Quote from: madbluboy – on November 07, 2014, 09:56:42 amCurfew?If Robbo was still on the list, I'd assume him but my guess is Curnow being autocorrected Quote Selected
Re: Carlton's Ball Butchers Reply #4 – November 07, 2014, 01:40:08 pm I cringe when I see Walker, Docherty or Jammo coming of defence with the ball... they are not bad kicks but some of the decision making and execution at times... Quote Selected
Re: Carlton's Ball Butchers Reply #5 – November 07, 2014, 02:48:55 pm Quote from: ItsOurTime – on November 07, 2014, 12:14:20 pmQuote from: madbluboy – on November 07, 2014, 09:56:42 amCurfew?If Robbo was still on the list, I'd assume him but my guess is Curnow being autocorrectedIf deliberately misspelled I suggest Curnover would be a better name. Quote Selected
Re: Carlton's Ball Butchers Reply #6 – November 07, 2014, 02:53:02 pm Quote from: Professer E – on November 07, 2014, 01:40:08 pmI cringe when I see Walker, Docherty or Jammo coming of defence with the ball... they are not bad kicks but some of the decision making and execution at times...Agreed, people kept smashing the blokes we played as KPFs but the decision making is complete crud!At least that can't put it on Bett's head anymore! Jammo is actually very good, if he makes the right decision.But we are a dumb side, our blokes make dummy-leads and the opposition defenders don't go with them because they know we will predictably kick it to the bloke left with three on him! Quote Selected Last Edit: November 07, 2014, 02:55:33 pm by LP
Re: Carlton's Ball Butchers Reply #7 – November 07, 2014, 03:15:14 pm Quote from: Professer E – on November 07, 2014, 01:40:08 pmI cringe when I see Walker, Docherty or Jammo coming of defence with the ball... they are not bad kicks but some of the decision making and execution at times...I was wondering when someone would wake up to Docherty. He has so far to go yet everyone on here claims him as a draft victory. Fk knows how Brisbane picked up a short flanker with pick 12. That's not to say he can't develop, but he certainly needs to! Quote Selected
Re: Carlton's Ball Butchers Reply #8 – November 07, 2014, 04:50:31 pm Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on November 07, 2014, 02:48:55 pmQuote from: ItsOurTime – on November 07, 2014, 12:14:20 pmQuote from: madbluboy – on November 07, 2014, 09:56:42 amCurfew?If Robbo was still on the list, I'd assume him but my guess is Curnow being autocorrectedIf deliberately misspelled I suggest Curnover would be a better name. I am not really a great fan of Curnow's disposal either, but I'm outnumbered at the game by my friends who think he's great - I have to be really careful what I say. Similar story with Robbo, but I can act very smug next year, unless of course he makes a huge impact at the Lions then I'll get flayed! Quote Selected
Re: Carlton's Ball Butchers Reply #9 – November 09, 2014, 06:59:13 pm Interestingly, supporters of nearly every other club bemoan the same thing. Quote Selected
Re: Carlton's Ball Butchers Reply #10 – November 09, 2014, 08:02:17 pm Drafting is all about beep tests, repeat sprints, vertical leaps, etc. None of that matters if you can't kick. Recruiters still do not recruit that way. We'll "develop" their kicking skills... just like we did with Kane Lucas who I'm sure had a fantastic beep test. Quote Selected
Re: Carlton's Ball Butchers Reply #11 – November 09, 2014, 08:10:06 pm Bell is a massive butcher of the ball but makes up for it with some serious heroics.Glad we still have him now we lost Robbo. Quote Selected
Re: Carlton's Ball Butchers Reply #12 – November 09, 2014, 08:27:55 pm Quote from: LanceRomance – on November 09, 2014, 08:10:06 pmBell is a massive butcher of the ball but makes up for it with some serious heroics.Glad we still have him now we lost Robbo.Serious Heroics? Quote Selected
Re: Carlton's Ball Butchers Reply #13 – November 10, 2014, 10:55:26 am Quote from: LanceRomance – on November 09, 2014, 08:10:06 pmBell is a massive butcher of the ball but makes up for it with some serious heroics.Glad we still have him now we lost Robbo.Agree....dont think I have seen Bell kick one ball cleanly, they are all mongrel drop punts that dont spin right but as your rightly point out we need him for his muscle and judging by the training photo's we saw on the first day back on the trackhe looks a very big unit with a lot more definition than his teammates in the upper body and arms.Reckon Bell and Whiley can make up for Robbo's grunt factor... Quote Selected
Re: Carlton's Ball Butchers Reply #14 – November 10, 2014, 12:24:12 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on November 10, 2014, 10:55:26 amQuote from: LanceRomance – on November 09, 2014, 08:10:06 pmBell is a massive butcher of the ball but makes up for it with some serious heroics.Glad we still have him now we lost Robbo.Agree....dont think I have seen Bell kick one ball cleanly, they are all mongrel drop punts that dont spin right but as your rightly point out we need him for his muscle and judging by the training photo's we saw on the first day back on the trackhe looks a very big unit with a lot more definition than his teammates in the upper body and arms.Reckon Bell and Whiley can make up for Robbo's grunt factor...ellwood- see Bells running goal in the last game in the last quarter against Port in Adelaide in 2013...blinder in the wet... Quote Selected