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Reply #3375 –
Quote from: DJC – on
If we ever become a republic, we shouldn’t have a president as the head of state.  The prime minister can do the job while remaining accountable to parliament.





Or as John Laws used to say, "when youre on a good thing, stick to it". I have travelled a lot and have friends and relos in many coutries and we are truly blessed (bar the odd f-wit here and there). We aint broken (by comparison), just leave it alone.
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Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)

Reply #3376 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Or as John Laws used to say, "when youre on a good thing, stick to it". I have travelled a lot and have friends and relos in many coutries and we are truly blessed (bar the odd f-wit here and there). We aint broken (by comparison), just leave it alone.
Yep.
I can understand some don’t want Betty or Charlie et al as our head of state and as Australia becomes less a child of Britain I’m starting to lean toward an Australian head of state
As you point out G2C, effectively our system isn’t broken, we could have a HOS elected by 2/3 majority of both houses.
Popular vote..? PASS.

Edit: Current GG = Head Of State, elected by joint sitting of parliament.
Let’s go BIG !

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Reply #3377 –
Quote from: northernblue – on
Yep.
I can understand some don’t want Betty or Charlie et al as our head of state and as Australia becomes less a child of Britain I’m starting to lean toward an Australian head of government.
As you point out G2C, effectively our system isn’t broken, we could have a HOG elected by 2/3 majority of both houses.
Popular vote..? PASS.

You don't need a President.
Our system is fine.
If we become a republic...
You don't need a head of state.
You could end up with Eddie McGuire as President...if they give the vote to Collingwood supporters.
The Prime Minister is as high as you need to go.

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Reply #3378 –
Quote from: Lods – on
You don't need a President.
Our system is fine.
If we become a republic...
You don't need a head of state.
You could end up with Eddie McGuire as President...if they give the vote to Collingwood supporters.
The Prime Minister is as high as you need to go.
Totally agree on the popular vote Lods.
The GG would be our Head Of State, elected by parliament.
Let’s go BIG !

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Reply #3379 –
Quote from: Lods – on
You could end up with Eddie McGuire as President...if they give the vote to Collingwood supporters.
In fairness McGuire probably wouldn't be too bad, relative to Trump, perhaps our Trump version would be to elect Sam Newman or Sam Kekovich? ;D
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #3380 –
Hard to believe polls in the USA, they currently claim Biden has gained ground in swing states over Trump.

Perhaps part of the problem is the swing states aren't full Trump apparatchiks, and it seems the recent debate success has led Trump to become even more extreme.

Has this reduced trust or increased fear of reprisals that Trump is so open about, do the swing states fear that Trump's party cannot control him?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #3381 –
That can be a bit deceptive unless you're comparing the data that was collected before by that same polling group rather than a different polling org.

https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/

But it actually seems to be the case in those swing states.

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Reply #3382 –
I have just watched a commentator on YouTube discussing Americans and their lack of knowledge of world affairs. His comment was this " The majority of Americans in their lifetime will travel no farther than the states adjoining theirs. They have no interest in, and therefore no knowledge of, the rest of the world."

Scary.

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Reply #3383 –
Quote from: Macca37 – on
I have just watched a commentator on YouTube discussing Americans and their lack of knowledge of world affairs. His comment was this " The majority of Americans in their lifetime will travel no farther than the states adjoining theirs. They have no interest in, and therefore no knowledge of, the rest of the world."

Scary.

Limited travel is just the start. There's a large subsection of that demographic that lives in an hermetically sealed, reality distortion field. They get all their knowledge from outlets like Fox News : news, entertainment, spiritual guidance, health and beauty tips etc all from one incredibly biased source. Hannah Arendt was quite right IMO. The first thing totalitarian movements do is cut people off from the real world. When you add to this the appalling state of US education, whether it be savage cuts to state schools, wealthy corporate donors at tertiary level, the religious right demanding Intelligent Design be taught instead of evolution etc.,  you really have to squint and pray to see any hope. 

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Reply #3384 –
I alternate on the half hour between CNN, Fox and MSNBC.
I like to get a balanced view. :D

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Reply #3385 –
The classic thing is simple dissemination of information in the US.  There's no unified voice disseminating news and information like the Australian newspaper, SBS or the ABC here, each US state is essentially its own separate mini-country. People don't give a flying .... what's happening in the adjacent state, and it isn't like their local news is going to give a wide enough view to encompass neighbouring states or the wider region.  Heck, people in one county hardly even acknowledge the presence of neighbouring counties.
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Reply #3386 –
It's quite true.
We tend to look at the USA as a single entity, the same as Australia.
While we have subtle differences between states it's still quite an easy task to move to live from one state to another. I've lived in 3 different states and apart from an argument over potato scallops and the way Victorians pronounce Castle, there is not a great deal of difference.
The USA on the other hand is almost as diverse as Europe, and apart from a 'nearly' common language, there are significant differences.

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Reply #3387 –
Quote from: Lods – on
It's quite true.
We tend to look at the USA as a single entity, the same as Australia.
While we have subtle differences between states it's still quite an easy task to move to live from one state to another. I've lived in 3 different states and apart from an argument over potato scallops and the way Victorians pronounce Castle, there is not a great deal of difference.
The USA on the other hand is almost as diverse as Europe, and apart from a 'nearly' common language, there are significant differences.
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Reply #3389 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Looks like we're going to have a problem :D
We should settle it over a pint.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"