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Reply #3495 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
@baggers yet sometimes it's as simple as a kid with a gun making a name for himself and taking it out on others for whatever reason.

Shootings are a tragedy.  Nothing more nothing less. 

How people pass judgement says more about them than the shooter.

Might well be a kid with a gun attempting to make a name for himself, but isn't that making a judgement? What we do know is that he's a white kid with his old man's gun, a registered Republican who made a modest donation to a Democrat cause... and, yep, all manner of assumptions and judgements will be made from those facts. And no doubt over the coming days and weeks other facts and speculations will come to light.

There will be many judgements and speculations around this tragic situation, and aint that simply human nature as each of us attempts to understand and make sense of the senseless?

One simple fact also remains, as you point out, shootings are a horror. Innocent people being harmed and killed is a terrible tragedy and horrendously pointless. And it doesn't take much to expand such horrors to what is happening in the Gaza, Ukraine, behind closed doors in family homes (domestic violence)... and so on. Not a difficult leap to question humanity on many levels.

Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #3496 –
Of course, the true irony is that the Republicans will still go to the election in November with full support for the Second Amendment and no agenda for tightening of gun laws.  And now, with 'faster than a speeding bullet' Donald well and truly in the frame to win yet again, it isn't going to change anytime soon.

Forget Trump and Biden, it is the American love affair with various forms of destructive weaponry that is the biggest threat to their nation, and by extension, the entire world.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

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Reply #3497 –
The bullet shot at Trump hit his right ear. Maybe God wants him to stop listening to right wing nut jobs.

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Reply #3498 –
Lots of Americans on both sides of politics saying that now is the time to cool things down, to show each other a bit more respect and refrain from demonising the other side.

I give it a week. ::)

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Reply #3499 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Trump is quoted as saying that God saved him. My (cautious!) response is what about the innocent victims and their families?  :-X
You know the score, ................. you're just little people?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lru1Qxc1l8
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #3500 –
Could you imagine if Trump said "it's time to put Biden in the bullseye" and Joe nearly got assassinated?

2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #3501 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Could you imagine if Trump said "it's time to put Biden in the bullseye" and Joe nearly got assassinated?



You don't have to imagine it... plenty of people are bringing this Biden comment to the fore.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #3502 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
You don't have to imagine it... plenty of people are bringing this Biden comment to the fore.
This doesn't feel like it is a culmination, such is the history and volume of vitriol, it feels like it's potentially just the tip of the iceberg.

I don't know how they take the heat out of this debate, Trump has stoked a fire and it's gone wild.

I feel sorry for the people around him like that innocent victim. The poor bastard has barely rated a mention, in the meantime Trump goes back to playing golf and carries on like he's Superman. Is that all Trump supporters are to him, little people who don't really matter? It seems that way, and they still foolishly believe he has their best interests at heart.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #3503 –
I guarantee if Biden was shot at people wouldn't be blaming himself like LP is trying to do to Trump right now.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #3504 –
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #3505 –
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #3506 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
I guarantee if Biden was shot at people wouldn't be blaming himself like LP is trying to do to Trump right now.
If Biden spewed the same vitriol fishing for the same affectation he'd get the same level of blame, but he hasn't.

You can't incite the crowd and not expect a reaction, as I've already clearly and unequivocally stated, the conspiracy nutters aren't political they attach themselves to ideas apolitically. I suspect they will find out this kid was largely the same the more detail they uncover.

The kid is a product of vitriol, the fact the source of much of it is Trump is largely irrelevant, it wouldn't matter who spewed it they would wear the blame.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #3507 –
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #3508 –
People are free to make their own direct / indirect causal links between words and actions, but facts are facts. Only one of Biden and Trump have regularly and consistently called for violence against those they either don't like or perceive to be their enemies.

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Reply #3509 –
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!