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Reply #3630 –
I have to laugh at Rita Panahi and her report that there is backlash against Taylor Swift for endorsing Harris, like Swiftys actually read News Ltd? ;D

Panahi is of course preaching to her own choir, that's just an attempt to actually retain Trump support in the News Ltd reader base.

In terms of trying to use News Ltd to reach and influence Swiftys she may as well be screaming at full volume marooned in a sound proof box on the bottom of the ocean!

For those not in the know, Rita Panahi is as Trump would describe the was once Sri Lankan / Asian / Indian / Egyptian but now black News Ltd Trump booster. They all look the same to him!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #3631 –
Quote from: LP – on
I have to laugh at Rita Panahi and her report that there is backlash against Taylor Swift for endorsing Harris, like Swiftys actually read News Ltd? ;D

Panahi is of course preaching to her own choir, that's just an attempt to actually retain Trump support in the News Ltd reader base.

In terms of trying to use News Ltd to reach and influence Swiftys she may as well be screaming at full volume marooned in a sound proof box on the bottom of the ocean!

For those not in the know, Rita Panahi is as Trump would describe the was once Sri Lankan / Asian / Indian / Egyptian but now black News Ltd Trump booster. They all look the same to him!

You left out the actual reason she was raising it.  Swift publicly said she is supporting Harris with the reason behind it her support is the Dems Tim Watz LGBTQ policies  

One of them is children and teens who want to transition and are not feeling their parents are supporting them can go to Minnesota and without parental consent the court can take minor children into their custody who are not getting the 'gender affirming care'. During this period non reversal surgeries can be undertaken. Parents will not have access during this time.

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Reply #3632 –
Quote from: shawny – on
You left out the actual reason she was raising it.  Swift publicly said she is supporting Harris with the reason behind it her support is the Dems Tim Watz LGBTQ policies  

One of them is children and teens who want to transition and are not feeling their parents are supporting them can go to Minnesota and without parental consent the court can take minor children into their custody who are not getting the 'gender affirming care'. During this period non reversal surgeries can be undertaken. Parents will not have access during this time.

When it comes to pretty much anything, let alone hot button issues like this, you should tread carefully with News Corpse. The truth, unsurprisingly, is more complex and nuanced than what Panahi presents.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/aug/27/jd-vance/jd-vance-misrepresents-minnesota-law-on-kids-seeki/

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Reply #3633 –
Quote from: shawny – on
One of them is children and teens who want to transition and are not feeling their parents are supporting them can go to Minnesota and without parental consent the court can take minor children into their custody who are not getting the 'gender affirming care'. During this period non reversal surgeries can be undertaken. Parents will not have access during this time.
It's a bogus allegation that kids can go and get procedures without parental consent, completely and thoroughly debunked by Minnesota health officials (and other states) well over 18 months ago, this is an old accusation dredged up again and again by MAGA nutters. They polish it up, turn it around for a different perspective, and put it on display again, they obviously think the world is made of people like 10 second Tom!

Recently the MAGA nutters have even created bogus looking government style websites to try and sell the idea kids can legally separate themselves from parents and have gender changing procedures, all the MAGA claims are bogus.

I suppose some will assert the kids can snack on a cat or dog on the journey interstate, before being sold into the sex slavery of a paedophile businessman at a secret island holiday venue the Trump plane visited while empty?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #3634 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
When it comes to pretty much anything, let alone hot button issues like this, you should tread carefully with News Corpse. The truth, unsurprisingly, is more complex and nuanced than what Panahi presents.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/aug/27/jd-vance/jd-vance-misrepresents-minnesota-law-on-kids-seeki/



Agree it is always more complicated then each side makes it out to be - In the end it all depends which side of the fence you sit on as to where you find your information and then how you review it, believe it or challenge it.

Trumps 'fake news' line likely applies to both sides of politics so very hard to get balanced non biased information these days.   

Most of us have a side whether we want to disclose it or not and then follow the path media wise that supports this side which then with the way the media is today just strengthens each persons views as the information is so biased regardless where you go. Very usual for folk to swap their preference regardless how their leader perform - a bit like barracking for the mighty blues - You just cant like anyone else even if you finish last!

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Reply #3635 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Agree it is always more complicated then each side makes it out to be - In the end it all depends which side of the fence you sit on as to where you find your information and then how you review it, believe it or challenge it.

Trumps 'fake news' line likely applies to both sides of politics so very hard to get balanced non biased information these days.   

Most of us have a side whether we want to disclose it or not and then follow the path media wise that supports this side which then with the way the media is today just strengthens each persons views as the information is so biased regardless where you go. Very usual for folk to swap their preference regardless how their leader perform - a bit like barracking for the mighty blues - You just cant like anyone else even if you finish last!

I mean, sure, we all have biases, and some lean more left and some right, but I think Fox's issues are much deeper and more profound than just being a conservative "news" source.

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Reply #3636 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Agree it is always more complicated then each side makes it out to be - In the end it all depends which side of the fence you sit on as to where you find your information and then how you review it, believe it or challenge it.

Trumps 'fake news' line likely applies to both sides of politics so very hard to get balanced non biased information these days.   

Most of us have a side whether we want to disclose it or not and then follow the path media wise that supports this side which then with the way the media is today just strengthens each persons views as the information is so biased regardless where you go. Very usual for folk to swap their preference regardless how their leader perform - a bit like barracking for the mighty blues - You just cant like anyone else even if you finish last!

Speaking specifically about the US election cycle and media coverage....

I joked at one time about spending my mornings switching from CNN to Fox (US) to MSNBC...to get a balanced view.
It's actually something that I do most mornings after getting the Australian news from Nine (mostly) or Seven.
Especially during election years.
It really depends on the particular show and who is delivering it as to the level of bias.

But it's pretty obvious that few of the sources are without some level of pushing a certain line of a story.
This is usually done by the omission of information that doesn't fit the narrative the station is trying to present...rather than a distortion of the truth.

So yep
Depending on your political bent you will favour one source of information, often rejecting another as extremist in their views, and not worth your time.
I tend to spend most of my time on CNN.

"Do you really watch that crap." is often referenced when talking about Fox watchers.
What you do get is an understanding of the thinking behind a large section of the American voter.

They're not all right wing nut jobs, and many are moderates with genuine concerns about the issues that affect their daily lives.
What's their thinking?
You can't understand that unless you draw on the sources of their preferred information, and not confine yourself only to those sources that reinforce your own thinking.

But I understand how folks can reject anything that doesn't sit comfortably with them so here's a little chart to plan your viewing in the lead-up to the election. (I think we've had this before somewhere in the thread.)

https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart#:~:text=Knowing%20the%20political%20bias%20of%20media%20outlets%20allows%20you%20to#:~:text=Knowing%20the%20political%20bias%20of%20media%20outlets%20allows%20you%20to

(BTW-Sky News is moderate compared to FOX in the states.)




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Reply #3637 –
There’s a massive problem with the mainstream media in the USA.  While Fox is just a MAGA propaganda arm and doesn’t bother about the truth or otherwise of anything that comes out of Aurangzeb’s mouth, the “proper” mainstream media is guilty of “sane washing” his crazy claims and outright lies.

For example, when asked whether he had legislation ready to address childcare needs, Aurangzeb went a long, convoluted rant about how tariffs would generate a massive income windfall for the US government, all paid for by China, Europe, Mexico and any others who have the temerity to export their products to the US, and with no extra cost imposed on US citizens.

The mainstream media reported that Aurangzeb has a plan to increase tariffs and fund more childcare places.  They should have reported that Aurangzeb couldn’t answer a question about childcare and has NFI about how tariffs work and, particularly, that it’s the consumer that pays the extra cost, not the foreign exporters.

Whatever you may think of our media, they wouldn’t let an Aussie politician get away with that … and particularly the disgraceful lies being told about late term abortions and gender reassignment!
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #3638 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Whatever you may think of our media, they wouldn’t let an Aussie politician get away with that … and particularly the disgraceful lies being told about late term abortions and gender reassignment!
I don't get how people really accept that rubbish, a lot of them write it off as "Just a joke" if it's a joke it's a pretty sick one, not a joke you want your country's leader telling! ;)
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #3639 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Most of us have a side whether we want to disclose it or not and then follow the path media wise that supports this side which then with the way the media is today just strengthens each persons views as the information is so biased regardless where you go.
Sorry, there is bias, and then there is unadulterated utter bullsh1t Trump dribbles out his ar5e of a mouth like an overflowing septic tank!

It's f#$%ing embarrassing for both Republicans and the Democrats alike to have this orange moron destroying public office for his own personal gain. He's deliberately making the entire world a meaner less stable and more dangerous place just to cover up his inept and corrupt business dealings.

If you happen to be one of his supporters, he is sh1tting on your future every bit as much as anybody possibly can, I think the morons actually think if Trump wins he'll send them all a few bucks to celebrate! I suspect, if Trump came across a broken and beleaguered MAGA supporter down to his last quid, Trump is more likely to steal the cash! But he wouldn't do it himself because he is a germophobe, he'd ask the Secret Service. ;)
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #3640 –
People barrack for their own team.
Republicans ignore Trump's crazy statements.
Democrats pretended Biden was fine and not senile.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #3641 –
It’s interesting to read psychiatric diagnoses of Biden and Aurangzeb.

While almost all agree that it’s not possible to diagnose people from afar, there is broad agreement that Biden’s sensory peripheral neuropathy is often misdiagnosed as dementia by lay folk.  However, several medical specialists are concerned that Biden may have a Parkinson’s variant called progressive supranuclear palsy.

There’s less reluctance to diagnose Aurangzeb from afar with “more than 70,000 mental health professionals who signed a petition warning of Trump's potential dangerousness.”

One person who isn’t shy about diagnosing Aurangzeb is his niece, Mary, a clinical psychologist.  Of course, Mary has intimate knowledge of Aurangzeb’s childhood and upbringing and the impact it had on him and his siblings.  Mary states that abandonment issues, narcissism, stunted emotional growth and caffeine dependence have combined to form a 78 year-old toddler who is potentially the most powerful person on the planet.

It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #3642 –
They're both corpses. One has already been given last rites, and the other one is about to.

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Reply #3643 –
News Corpse may be about undergo significant changes if Rupert/Lachlan lose their Nevada court case.  If it becomes 3 v 1 when discussing strategic company philosophy, Fox/Sky/HUN etc as we know it may be about to have a significant clipping of wings (well, the right one anyway).
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

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Reply #3644 –
Quote from: DJC – on
There’s less reluctance to diagnose Aurangzeb from afar with “more than 70,000 mental health professionals who signed a petition warning of Trump's potential dangerousness.”

One person who isn’t shy about diagnosing Aurangzeb is his niece, Mary, a clinical psychologist.  Of course, Mary has intimate knowledge of Aurangzeb’s childhood and upbringing and the impact it had on him and his siblings.  Mary states that abandonment issues, narcissism, stunted emotional growth and caffeine dependence have combined to form a 78 year-old toddler who is potentially the most powerful person on the planet.


Mary plays her psychological insights/diagnosis of 'Donny' with a very straight bat. By the book. Most of us can deal with and do something about abandonment issues, drug dependence, stunted emotional growth ...and so on, pretty well. But the diagnosis by Mary of uncle Donny's narcissism is not just narcissism, most people have some of this as a survival mechanism. But nothing to the same degree than when this narcissism is to the level of a 'disorder.'

What she notes about her uncle is far worse than just 'narcissism.' She notes his condition as pathological, as presenting as NPD and/or BPD... Narcissistic Personality Disorder/Borderline Personality Disorder... you could probably throw in Antisocial Personality Disorder (Sociopathic) as well. The difference between being 'narcissistic' and the before mentioned disorders is like comparing a bit of sciatic pain in your leg to being paralyzed from the neck down!

Those folks with the above disorders, especially the 'white-collar' versions, present as highly charming, even warm and friendly. Even smart! They tend to speak in sweeping generalizations, be highly grandiose and seductive, convincing liars (they actually believe their lies) and everything and everyone around them is but an item for use - for them. Once their usefullness has been fulfilled, they're discarded. Yer fer me or agin me. Key word - me. Nutshell: very sad, and very dangerous. Tend to destroy all around them before destroying themselves. Their kryptonite? Accountability and facts.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17