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Reply #3480 –
@shawny Surely MAGA supporters won't contend that spreading conspiracies is offensive?

This is a bed they have made, and it will be largely the same nutters spreading the conspiracies! ;)

The nutters are conspiracy theory apparatchiks, politics have little to do with it, politics has just leveraged the behaviour in a very short sighted manner.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"
 

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Reply #3481 –
Quote from: LP – on
@shawny Surely MAGA supporters won't contend that spreading conspiracies is offensive?

This is a bed they have made, and it will be largely the same nutters spreading the conspiracies! ;)

The nutters are conspiracy theory apparatchiks, politics have little to do with it, politics has just leveraged the behaviour in a very short sighted manner.

Not just conspiracies, but also actions. Trump has repeatedly & consistently advocated for, defended & cheered on violence. He told America “we have to get over it” after a deadly elementary school shooting. His movement is the primary stoker of the flames of political violence.

Facts.

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Reply #3482 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Disgusting post. An innocent man had been killed several critical. Any respect?

When Baggers posted there was no reports of anyone killed or even injured other than Trump.
Which at the time seemed surprising, given a lot of shots and a large crowd.

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Reply #3483 –
Actions like this are not only awful in and of themselves, they are petty much guaranteed to lead to further violence.

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Reply #3484 –
Quote from: LP – on
@shawny Surely MAGA supporters won't contend that spreading conspiracies is offensive?

This is a bed they have made, and it will be largely the same nutters spreading the conspiracies! ;)

The nutters are conspiracy theory apparatchiks, politics have little to do with it, politics has just leveraged the behaviour in a very short sighted manner.

All i was implying is innocent people have died so be respectful.
But thats just me.

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Reply #3485 –
Quote from: Lods – on
When Baggers posted there was no reports of anyone killed or even injured other than Trump.
Which at the time seemed surprising, given a lot of shots and a large crowd.



Fair enough i did think it was an odd post considering the result of what happened.

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Reply #3486 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Actions like this are not only awful in and of themselves, they are petty much guaranteed to lead to further violence.

Yep. 100%. This will likely be the start of more sadly.

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Reply #3487 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Yep. 100%. This will likely be the start of more sadly.
They are social media driven and that will promote a rise in paranoia, and if nothing else some innocents will be shot dead for putting a hand in a pocket.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #3489 –
Quote from: Lods – on
When Baggers posted there was no reports of anyone killed or even injured other than Trump.
Which at the time seemed surprising, given a lot of shots and a large crowd.

No there wasn't, but when I posted that video I made the comment about screams coming after the fact which gave the appearance of collateral damage.
So I thought it was a very high probability despite no media suggesting as much.

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Reply #3490 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
No there wasn't, but when I posted that video I made the comment about screams coming after the fact which gave the appearance of collateral damage.
So I thought it was a very high probability despite no media suggesting as much.

I was watching it live (sad admission) :( 
My initial thoughts were, with that many shots there would have to have been some injuries to spectators.
I even stated as much in the OP regarding the incident and described it as 'bizarre' that there didn't seem to be others hurt.
We learn't after the fact that there were, but it took probably half an hour (maybe more) from the shooting before that news came through that there were injuries and that the shooter and one other was dead.

I think the initial reaction of those close by was disbelief...it took some a while to react
It may have been that that delayed response that meant screams weren't forthcoming straight away, or you may be right and the screams came from someone close to the victims.

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Reply #3491 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Disgusting post. An innocent man had been killed several critical. Any respect?
At the time of making that post there were no reports of any injuries or loss of life. Had I made that post with knowledge of loss of life it would indeed have been appalling. Turns out it was a silly and ill-adviced post and ignored one of my own principles... know as many facts as possible before forming an opinion. Disappointed with myself over that comment, and let myself down, badly. I am deeply and sincerely sorry for any offense my words caused.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #3492 –
Just goes to show, don't go too early.

I'm still not commenting on this.  

I've heard a lot said about it so far and most people I can only shake my head at. 

Particularly the ones who went with he only has himself to blame...

It's ridiculous.   I don't like Trump or Biden but far out the guy actually had shots fired at him by a 20 year old. 

We still don't have the facts, motivation etc.  It's a shambles.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #3493 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Just goes to show, don't go too early.

I'm still not commenting on this.  

I've heard a lot said about it so far and most people I can only shake my head at. 

Particularly the ones who went with he only has himself to blame...

It's ridiculous.   I don't like Trump or Biden but far out the guy actually had shots fired at him by a 20 year old. 

We still don't have the facts, motivation etc.  It's a shambles.

Well some, let's say 'interesting' facts, are beginning to emerge. The shooter, a white male, registered Republican who'd donated $15s to a Democratic cause, used his father's rifle. Fired from a rooftop around 100 yards from his target. Rooftop? Secret Service?  :-X

Trump is quoted as saying that God saved him. My (cautious!) response is what about the innocent victims and their families?  :-X
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #3494 –
@baggers yet sometimes it's as simple as a kid with a gun making a name for himself and taking it out on others for whatever reason.

Shootings are a tragedy.  Nothing more nothing less. 

How people pass judgement says more about them than the shooter.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson