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Reply #4966 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Taco explaining war and prices:

“Prices are coming down very substantially, oil will be coming down. That's just a matter of war that happens very, you can almost predict it. I would say it went up a little bit less than we thought, it's going to come down more than anybody understands."

For accuracy’s sake, substitute “subsquishatly” for “substantially”.

Leaving aside the mispronunciation, what on earth does that mean?  That’s not the speech of a lucid, rational person capable of clear thinking or considered decision making.

That's how a narcissistic real estate salesman talks.

Translated: everything is happening exactly as we thought, probably not as bad. Things are becoming beautiful, brilliant and better than you can imagine. I'm totally in control of the situation.

Reality: I f*cked up (again) and haven't got a clue what I'm doing.
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Reply #4967 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Are you referring to Trump, Jacinta Andrews, Albo or all 3?

I appreciate the humour, but no, there's no comparison.

What humour? I have never seen two bigger morons than Albanese and Allan. I doubt they would lie any straighter in bed than Trump. Same crap different size bucket.
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Reply #4968 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
What humour? I have never seen two bigger morons than Albanese and Allan. I doubt they would lie any straighter in bed than Trump. Same crap different size bucket.

I think if you were to tally up the sins of the Trump administration and then do the same for Albanese and Jacinta Allan, you may surprise yourself. My personal feeling is that you are exaggerating the sins of the group you don’t like in order to cast the sins of your preferred group in a more favourable light.

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Reply #4969 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
What humour? I have never seen two bigger morons than Albanese and Allan. I doubt they would lie any straighter in bed than Trump. Same crap different size bucket.

I think if you were to tally up the sins of the Trump administration and then do the same for Albanese and Jacinta Allan, you may surprise yourself. My personal feeling is that you are exaggerating the sins of the group you don’t like in order to cast the sins of your preferred group in a more favourable light.

I think you'll find the Trump's sins hurt more people than Albo or Jacinta. Not that I think any of them should be running anything.
Trump is ruining the entire planet. That takes something our pollies simply can't match.
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Reply #4970 –
Didnt see Albo and crew volunteering to cut the fuel excise to help Australians or say they would return all that extra GST they will make on inflated petroleum product prices to farmers and the agriculture sector etc...Trump isnt the only one who can exploit or take advantage when it suits...

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Reply #4971 –
Sorry Elwood, that’s just laughable.
Let’s go BIG !

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Reply #4972 –
The Apocalypse we had to have ::)  ::)

The bright side. if there is one ::) ...
If these ridiculous actions and the absolute nonsense being sprouted, don't finish Trump there's no hope.

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Reply #4973 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Didnt see Albo and crew volunteering to cut the fuel excise to help Australians or say they would return all that extra GST they will make on inflated petroleum product prices to farmers and the agriculture sector etc...Trump isnt the only one who can exploit or take advantage when it suits...

Morrison temporarily reduced fuel excise but no Australian government has ever refunded GST.

Of course, later analysis revealed that Morrison’s excise cut almost exclusively benefited high income households.  Targeted relief to low income families would have been a more equitable and effective measure.

The thing is that it’s virtually impossible to predict what Taco is going to do and that makes it hard for any government to get on the front foot.

The mid-terms aren’t all that far off and it seems inevitable that GOP will lose control of Congress and Taco will be history.  JD could be worse, but he will have impeachment to temper his excesses.



"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #4974 –
I'm shocked to hear it, but it appears RedTrump's government has inadvertently been reporting dodgy figures, who'd have thunk it?

Where would they have got that idea, fake news?

It seems under audit, the real growth figure was less than half the originally reported figure, a 50% error! Horrendous given that much of the growth reported was from tariffs that now must be refunded, which they do not want to do, well it seems they can't because they are technical broke! :o Quantitive easing anyone?

Even worse news, despite the best efforts of The DOGEy Brothers, the cost to the US Economy actually went up, somebody has a bank balance that is bursting! I wonder who? Guess what the tabulation error was, 50%, what a coincidence, easy to remember though! ::)

Haff, Dubble, Haff, Dubble ..................

Growth down, costs up, profit a loss, maybe they are getting ready for a big tax deduction! :D

Perhaps RedTrump can write the US a cheque(loan), what interest rate will he charge?

They could appoint an experience corporate type to run the joint, someone with first class experience saving a flagging global enterprise. Ivana, ............... too soon?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #4975 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
What humour? I have never seen two bigger morons than Albanese and Allan. I doubt they would lie any straighter in bed than Trump. Same crap different size bucket.

I think if you were to tally up the sins of the Trump administration and then do the same for Albanese and Jacinta Allan, you may surprise yourself. My personal feeling is that you are exaggerating the sins of the group you don’t like in order to cast the sins of your preferred group in a more favourable light.

Best you all stick to discussing the great US of A and Ill just disappear from this thread.
Apologies for side tracking the topic.
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Reply #4976 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Didnt see Albo and crew volunteering to cut the fuel excise to help Australians or say they would return all that extra GST they will make on inflated petroleum product prices to farmers and the agriculture sector etc...Trump isnt the only one who can exploit or take advantage when it suits...

It's worth reading about (and there's a few good articles) what cutting the fuel excise now would do.  The net effect would be to send inflation northward at an alarming rate, and lead to far greater pain for a much longer time.  Economic times now are very different to those that prevailed when the excise was cut during Covid.

Of course, that doesn't stop opportunistic populist w***ers like Hanson, Joyce et al who claim that it shows the Government doesn't care about struggling Australians.  Cheap punchlines with little or no credibility in terms of actual decision-making.  
   
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

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Reply #4977 –
Quote from: tonyo – on
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Didnt see Albo and crew volunteering to cut the fuel excise to help Australians or say they would return all that extra GST they will make on inflated petroleum product prices to farmers and the agriculture sector etc...Trump isnt the only one who can exploit or take advantage when it suits...

It's worth reading about (and there's a few good articles) what cutting the fuel excise now would do.  The net effect would be to send inflation northward at an alarming rate, and lead to far greater pain for a much longer time.  Economic times now are very different to those that prevailed when the excise was cut during Covid.

Of course, that doesn't stop opportunistic populist w***ers like Hanson, Joyce et al who claim that it shows the Government doesn't care about struggling Australians.  Cheap punchlines with little or no credibility in terms of actual decision-making. 
  
Medium to Long term maybe but short term which it would be in this case imho I don't agree and it would have a deflationary effect by lowering transport costs which in turn should reduce items like supermarket goods. Treasurer Chalmers is planning on cutting the exemptions for EVs with regards FBT and import tariffs plus introduce a EV road users tax which should send EV sales plummeting and Motorists back to ICE vehicles and continuing demand for petrol which given events in Iran he might want to rethink.

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Reply #4978 –
I feel you have to differentiate local versus global effects in relation to balance of trade.

Under global influences if you are largely self-sufficient the outcome of taxation adjustments will be different to when you are globally dependant. Australia's history of kyboshing local manufacturing and processing for cheap imports is now coming home to roost, the true cost is beyond the purchase price.

FWIW, I'm not sure any country on earth is globally independent, and RedTrump has found out that the hard way!

On the flipside, the same nuffies that torched local capability as "too expensive and not competitive" will now be telling you that "rebuilding infrastructure is too expensive and not fast enough solution". If you listen to the noise you'll be travelling on pothole filled dirt roads with farmers hitching the up a draft horse to the plough a field, while wondering where all that billionaire wealth came from. Sound familiar?

A huge problem is that individuals can have very loud voices and a lot of influence, but they rarely look far beyond their own personal agenda. The extroverts are probably the ones who you should listen to the least.

It's interesting to see when the lightbulb flips, for example the flip in perspective of the infamous Tucker Carlson. My only worry is it a genuine change, did he always know the contents of his past messaging were false but he felt safe to the contrary. Safety net removed, things change I suppose, and so he sails with the wind. Maybe I've become too cynical.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #4979 –
Its a simple equation. Its cheaper for us to export our own oil, pay others to refine it and import it back.  Otherwise the labor force is too expensive.

Simple market economics because we have proper living standards or hyper inflation has caused this, take your pick.  That bubble weve kept blowing into the economy to avoid a recession will likely burst.  Been well over due.
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