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If (?) does (?), then I'll be happy: 2017 Season

Heading into the JLT series, I think we are all starting to think about our expectations for the season ahead. As supporters, those expectations are often different, but what are our non-negotiable's? What will we each need to see to make us happy when the season has wound up? This isn't so much about wins and losses, but the steps we need to take to be a great team.

For me, this is what will make me happy:

- If Harry McKay can play 15+ games and kick 20 or more goals
- If we have at least 3 Rising Star nominations
- If we don't lose a game by more than 50 points
- If one of our new recruits (either drafted or traded) finishes top 5 in the B+F
- If at least one of our guys is AA
- If none of our top 10 players want out at the end of the year
- If the football community can come up with more than just Cripps when talking about our emerging midfield stars
- If one of our forwards kicks more than 40 goals

And one more immediate wish:
- If our girls take out the inaugural AFLW premiership  :)

Re: If (?) does (?), then I'll be happy: 2017 Season

Reply #1 –
Yes, good luck to the girls.

I want a lot more things that I can jot down, so here's a few :

I want :
- to see the players (to a man) give 110% every week.
- us to cut our losses with Casboult - if, after all this time, he still needs to be taught kicking technique, then it's pointless. Play him the 2's or park him in the goal square. If you park him in a spot where he can't miss, set him up with some crumbers that aren't crummy, it takes the kicking yips out of the equation. I want to see our players run and carry a lot more, not just off half back like Heath Shaw, but all over the ground. I want to see attacks into the F50 launched at the F50m arc, not from the centre square. I want to see 2 or 3 defenders crap their pants every week knowing that Cas will mark anything and everything from an unmissable distance. This will encourage them to infringe, give away free kicks etc. I know it's not trendy to set up this way.
- to see the players never looking confused or lost. I want them to look like they know where they need to be and what they need to do at all times.
- Cripps to kick more and handball less. Diesel can you help us ?
-I want to see better overall skills, and especially kicking skills, less turnovers etc.
- no injuries.
- no reports
- to see our young players get talked about in glowing terms, like we are the genuine article and really a team to watch and on the rise.
- to see more of the first half of 2016 and less of the second.

Optional extras :
- to see Jack S win the Coleman
- to see Weeters win the MVP
- Harry Mac, Cripps and Charlie C to tie for the Brownlow.

No point in being modest. Might as well aim high.

Re: If (?) does (?), then I'll be happy: 2017 Season

Reply #2 –
Quote from: Navy Maven – on
Heading into the JLT series, I think we are all starting to think about our expectations for the season ahead. As supporters, those expectations are often different, but what are our non-negotiable's? What will we each need to see to make us happy when the season has wound up? This isn't so much about wins and losses, but the steps we need to take to be a great team.

For me, this is what will make me happy:

- If Harry McKay can play 15+ games and kick 20 or more goals
- If we have at least 3 Rising Star nominations
- If we don't lose a game by more than 50 points
- If one of our new recruits (either drafted or traded) finishes top 5 in the B+F
- If at least one of our guys is AA
- If none of our top 10 players want out at the end of the year
- If the football community can come up with more than just Cripps when talking about our emerging midfield stars
- If one of our forwards kicks more than 40 goals

And one more immediate wish:
- If our girls take out the inaugural AFLW premiership  :)

I'd be more than happy with that lot and I'll add just one more:

- If Casboult's inaccurate kicking for goal is no longer a topic of discussion.
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: If (?) does (?), then I'll be happy: 2017 Season

Reply #3 –
2 more things.
- a couple of wins against some of the top teams
- a few 10+ goal thumpings, like we were handing out a few seasons back.

Re: If (?) does (?), then I'll be happy: 2017 Season

Reply #4 –
Quote from: Navy Maven – on
Heading into the JLT series, I think we are all starting to think about our expectations for the season ahead. As supporters, those expectations are often different, but what are our non-negotiable's? What will we each need to see to make us happy when the season has wound up? This isn't so much about wins and losses, but the steps we need to take to be a great team.

For me, this is what will make me happy:

- If Harry McKay can play 15+ games and kick 20 or more goals
- If we have at least 3 Rising Star nominations
- If we don't lose a game by more than 50 points
- If one of our new recruits (either drafted or traded) finishes top 5 in the B+F
- If at least one of our guys is AA
- If none of our top 10 players want out at the end of the year
- If the football community can come up with more than just Cripps when talking about our emerging midfield stars
- If one of our forwards kicks more than 40 goals

And one more immediate wish:
- If our girls take out the inaugural AFLW premiership  :)

I've crossed out 3. I think these are largely irrelevent as they are voted/outside perception which in the scheme of things, mean nothing.

Ultimately, what i want is to have a list of players that we can see our future from.
That is, we know if McKay will be a 10 year KF (not just hope like we do now) and we know if Casboult is worth persisting with or if it is more of the same.
We know if Weitering is required as a key back, or if he is a key forward. If Marchbank, Plowman, Rowe and co can hold down our defense to allow Weitering forward, or Marchbank instead of Weitering.

Right now, i can't see how all our defenders and our lack of genuine forwards can successfully fill a team both now and in the years to come. If we get that nailed, albeit with further development required, then i couldn't care less how many wins we get this year.

Re: If (?) does (?), then I'll be happy: 2017 Season

Reply #5 –
For the team
Would like to see a die hard attitude, and consistancy in effort throughout the games
Continue to grow in belief & commit  to the game plan
Find our new forward line

Individuals
Casboult to become what he is capable off
Daisy to surprise us all with some flashbacks from the past
Murphy to stay on the park & lead
MacKay to show case his talent
Charlie to become cross between Kouta & Waite , tall order

Its a start

Re: If (?) does (?), then I'll be happy: 2017 Season

Reply #6 –
If Murphy and Kreuzer play 22 games......
If Gibbs wins the B&F...........
If Casboult kicks any number of goals at 60% efficiency................
If H.McKay plays 5 games................
If C.Curnow kicks 30+ goals.......
If SOJ kicks 30+ goals........
If Weiters and Cripps get through uninjured.......
If CheatsFC finish dead last..........
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: If (?) does (?), then I'll be happy: 2017 Season

Reply #7 –
Fun, but I'll try to be realistic

Murphy, gibbs and cripps play a full season and average a goal a game
C curnow to string 8 very good games together
McKay gets a chance toward middle of season and plays 6-8 games showing plenty of promise.
Casboult gets dropped after round 12 and doesn't come back. No slight on the bloke, but we can't keep hoping in the face of such obvious reality.
Cunningham and Boekhorst have breakout years.
A stable back six command increasing respect and points against declines throughout the season.
Kreuzer plays 20 games.

CFC release a princes park master plan with the city of melbourne in partnership to develop a new precinct of sport, recreation, biotech and health with emerging plans for a refurbished 15,000 seat venue for vfl etc.

Club revenue grows by 15 per cent and AFL/debt facility is halved.

Re: If (?) does (?), then I'll be happy: 2017 Season

Reply #8 –
Nice list Vivian.

Re: If (?) does (?), then I'll be happy: 2017 Season

Reply #9 –
Quote from: Vivian – on
Fun, but I'll try to be realistic

Murphy, gibbs and cripps play a full season and average a goal a game
C curnow to string 8 very good games together
McKay gets a chance toward middle of season and plays 6-8 games showing plenty of promise.
Casboult gets dropped after round 12 and doesn't come back. No slight on the bloke, but we can't keep hoping in the face of such obvious reality.
Cunningham and Boekhorst have breakout years.
A stable back six command increasing respect and points against declines throughout the season.
Kreuzer plays 20 games.

CFC release a princes park master plan with the city of melbourne in partnership to develop a new precinct of sport, recreation, biotech and health with emerging plans for a refurbished 15,000 seat venue for vfl etc.

Club revenue grows by 15 per cent and AFL/debt facility is halved.

Thought you were being realistic? ;)

Re: If (?) does (?), then I'll be happy: 2017 Season

Reply #10 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Thought you were being realistic? ;)

Lost the plot and started dreaming...

Still, if the club can keep getting its act together the sponsers will come and we will start being taken seriously. Big year ahead off field for Carlton.

Re: If (?) does (?), then I'll be happy: 2017 Season

Reply #11 –
Quote from: LP – on
If Murphy and Kreuzer play 22 games......
If Gibbs wins the B&F...........
If Casboult kicks any number of goals at 60% efficiency................
If H.McKay plays 5 games................
If C.Curnow kicks 30+ goals.......
If SOJ kicks 30+ goals........
If Weiters and Cripps get through uninjured.......
If CheatsFC finish dead last..........
I'll go with this list also, sorry to be poacher but...
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership
 

Re: If (?) does (?), then I'll be happy: 2017 Season

Reply #12 –
OK I'll have a go. Great topic by the way ;D

Defense remains tight and points against declines
Forward line is so unpredictable that opposition defense are left wondering (and we score more than 2016)
Harry and 2015 draftees get a run of games and excite us all (a sign that our player development is aok)
Every game is played with spirit
Our list remains amongst the healthiest
Byrne returns bigger and better, solidifying our defense
Crippa  gets help in the engine room, and adds a surprise string to his bow
Smedts shows his talent, sneaking a few Brownlow votes. Cats spewing they didn't give him another year (too much??)
Sammo or little Zac win Rising Star award - OK they get nominated
We beat the Hawks in a thriller :))
Our women are the inaugural premier's and our financial position significantly improves

Some of these are more dreams than expectations. But hey, it was fun.

Go Blues
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: If (?) does (?), then I'll be happy: 2017 Season

Reply #13 –
We play with full commitment for 4qtrs, every game.
We have drastically reduced our clanger count.
We have drastically reduced our skill error count
We have greatly improved the quality of our F50 entries
We have greatly improved our kicking for goal
We find some gold in our new guys

If all of that happens then I will really enjoy 2017.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #14 –
Nice list cookie.