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Re: JLT Game 2

Reply #225 –
It was the lack of intensity and effort from many of the mid tier players that really concerned me yesterday. These are guys who would think are fighting for a place in the team in R1 and didn't fire a shot. I'm talking about guys like Boek, Graham & Lamb who we need as the link players and should be good users of the ball who had zero impact on the game. And don't get me started on Thomas - zero tackles from the senior pro yesterday and a guy who sets a terrible example for the young guys in terms of not putting his body on the line. We all know Jones is a highlight reel player only - yesterday is just another classic example.

I'm not worried [yet] about the young guys, and some of them showed some good signs albeit glimpses only. Fisher and McKay both look to me like they need a fair bit of time in the NB's before they are ready for senior action. Marchbank looks a standout, and Macreadie did some nice things as well.

The other thing that stood out like proverbials yesterday is just how bad our field kicking is. Curnow, Kerridge and Palmer are ok at getting ball, but their efficiency by foot is terrible and they had 12 clangers between them. If your mids cannot keep hold of the ball then you are going to get blow off the park on turnover. 

Re: JLT Game 2

Reply #226 –
sbf, re the kicking, this has been one of my many bugaboos for ages. I'll quote from a 2012 Rob walls article :

"Ratten has a back line that can't kick over a jam tin. So he has to play Heath Scotland, Chris Yarran and Bryce Gibbs back there. Someone needs to stamp ''KICKING SKILLS'' on the foreheads of Carlton's recruiters because half the list is substandard by foot."

Re: JLT Game 2

Reply #227 –
@SBF

The players you are describing here SBF are mediocre and not what we need to build our future on. They will not significantly improve let alone reach AFL standard.

We have to put up with them though for another year, unfortunately, as part of our rebuild but I'm hoping that their bad habits don't rub off on to our younger players. So we should be using them as little as possible. A fair swag of them should be sent on their way again this year as we progress the rebuild.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #228 –
Remember that SOS has his hands tied somewhat with some of our problem players because of contracts offered before he came to Carlton, namely Thomas, Jones, Jaksch, there's probably more

Re: JLT Game 2

Reply #229 –
Whilst it doesn't help us ac CFC supporters, Daisy was actually a very good kick of the footy in his Pie days.
 

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Reply #230 –
Quote from: DJC – on
I thought young Harrison played quite well and showed a lot of promise.  We may have made very good use of Pick 47  :)

The kid was touted as top 5 till GWS moved him north and he didn't respond well in his final year.....

knows how to play mid too....
Finals, then 4 in a row!

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Reply #231 –
Looked good, but patchy as you would expect. He and Polson were the positives out of yesterday's game for me

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Reply #232 –
Quote from: Jack Burton – on
Looked good, but patchy as you would expect. He and Polson were the positives out of yesterday's game for me

Yes, I thought Polson showed a bit too.  At one point I thought, "Wow, that's Thomas back to his best!"  then realised that it was 29, not 39 ...
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #233 –
You know sometimes you get a first glimpse of kid, and it might not be anything really special that he does, but you get the feeling that "here is a player."

I haven't paid a lot of attention to "who has what number" at the moment...I don't even remember what it was that caught my eye yesterday...but it was something that had me reaching for the team list to check out who number 29 was. ;)

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Reply #234 –
Quote from: Jack Burton – on
Remember that SOS has his hands tied somewhat with some of our problem players because of contracts offered before he came to Carlton, namely Thomas, Jones, Jaksch, there's probably more

All too painfully true JB. Most of those such problems should be resolved in time for this year's list management activities.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #235 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Cookie I feel your pain but I honestly think we will play better in the season proper (at least I pray we do ;D). I think testing various things and training loads are reasons for us looking lacklustre. I am not suggesting for a minute we will make the 8, top 4, play off in a GF or win the thing, just  that I think a pattern has developed in the last 2 years with how we have approached the PS comp/Praccy matches and so I'll just wait and see and settle in for the ride (bumpy as it may be).
I have said it before and Ill say it again and again, anyone who thought a new coaching and list management team was going to come in and "right the ship" in 1 or 2 years from the mess we were/are in is delusional.

My sentiments too. Well said GIC.

We gave kids a trial to prime the mind. Saints went about it against kids as you would expect. We gain when there's nothing at stake. They practice for the real deal.

For mine we're still assembling the ingredients (discarding what's out of date).
On the other hand, they are preparing the icing  ^-^

Go new Blues
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: JLT Game 2

Reply #236 –
I agree with most others on the downside of yesterday's practice. That being how inefficient and lacking intensity (and thereby leadership) our seniors were.

The upside. Polson and McCreadie showed glimpses. Fischer and big H backed up glimpses. When in position, big MK's ruck work was solid relative to his mord experienced opponent. The optimist in me says he'll make it. Particularly if he can plant himself near goals occasionally and kick a goal or two. Pickett also backed up reasonably given his return from injury.

As such, I'm quietly excited. Imagine what Pickett will bring injury free and with his aerobic capacity up to speed. Speed. That's what. He could really be a boost in our scoring stakes. He knows where the goals are and appears confident, or at least unperturbed by the monsters. Just hope this spreads to his teammates :)
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

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Reply #237 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Not sure where to put this so I'll put it here!

Went to the NBs game this morning. Few comments:

Firstly, NBs 10.13.73 def Sandy 8.14.62.

Of the NBs listed blokes liked: Sam Russell, Strachan, Luke Russell, Stevens, Pearce, Glover and McCabe. Who the hell is Angus Milham, the new ruckman... seemed about 20ft tall! Did alright too.

NBs seemed well organised and hard at it. Impressed. Led most of the day and a couple of late ones flattered Sandy.

JGM injured early. Sumner injured early also so not much to say about those two!

I thought the best of the 6 NBs listed players ( remember 2 out early injured!) were Sheehan, Jaksch (yes, he was working hard!!!!) and kicked a few goals and Le Bois. Gus was a rock in defense and his disposal skills were great - wrapped to see him get through and look good. Jaksch surprised but remember this is pre season and Sandy weren't great but credit given where it's due - he marked, competed and kicked well. Le Bois kicked another brilliant goal on the wrong angle for a left footer, he didn't figure a lot in the game but what he did was good and very encouraging.

Kerr? Let's just say there is an enormous amount of room for improvement!

Thanks Baggers

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Reply #238 –
None & 2, horrific %,  bottom of the ladder.  Get rid of Murphy,  Gibbs and Kreuzer and the coach is no good.

Maybe the club has plans and strategies that we don't know about.

Personally I couldn't give a rats until there are 4 points up for grabs.

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Reply #239 –
Was at the game and could only manage 3/4 but one thing that struck me was our time in possession or lack of. We basically chased leather from halfway thru the first - no wonder the kids were knackered.

Cripps looked good early, with lots of young kids showing they have the tools albeit without much time with ball in hand - apart from the defenders. Macreadie and Williamson looked good, as did Cunningham I thought. Oh and picket too. Apart from that there wasn't much to smile at unfortunately - skill errors all over the park, not horrific but just a few cms either way or where it needed to be. Saints were running on top of the ground but doubt they'd play so carefree in the real stuff.

Forward line was a shambles, not enough kicking to players on the lead, too many pack contests from wing, hf and inside the 50. Harry has good dukes seems confident and got into a scuffle, just needs more time and experience.