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You mean the guy who couldn't help but hit a target 99% of the time? Why would I have a problem with him? Why would I have a problem with his gut running that was amazing? Why would I have a problem with his ability to kick a goal when required and under pressure?

Do you even understand what this thread is about? 

I still see Murphy as a midfielder; his main problem has always been the evolution of bigger bodied midfielders who crunch him at every opportunity.

Now Murphy and Gibbs find themselves the two most targeted by opposition coaches yet they still mange to have an impact.

A commentator made the remark a while ago that he had emerged from Judds shadow and was now a true leader in his own right.

In the very first post that opens this thread, you make a few references to your 2 favorite players being soft coc@s. So was Braddles. I recall many at the time of his career noting his aversion to the contest and physical contact. That's not to diminish his many other fine attributes.

Yep, which is why I'd like to see him as a small forward, to extend his career! If he was 192cm and 92 kgs or thereabouts, he'd be a gun, but he aint. He is, however, a 'little gun'.

Bradley may not have been the toughest player out there, but he made up for it by running all day and creating options and was an elite kick. What do the Pox Duo do?

You mean the guy who couldn't help but hit a target 99% of the time? Why would I have a problem with him? Why would I have a problem with his gut running that was amazing? Why would I have a problem with his ability to kick a goal when required and under pressure?

Do you even understand what this thread is about? 

I don't share your opinion, Spanner, however, looking at Chrashs' excellent Jim Park summary, Murph is leading comfortably, suggesting that he has this year, according to this forum been our best, with Gibbs coming in 6th.

Both came to the club close to or at its lowest point and had very little in the way of role models, then got beaten up as 18yos when they were our best players.  They have since played at a basket case club, with a bit of success in 2011. They do have faults, however, so do all players everywhere.  As someone else posted, maybe that is as good as they are, and we have to accept it/hope others go past them quickly.

We had a season at cricket in Shield grade where I was 31 and the next oldest was 21.  There was plenty of talent in the team (excluding me) and we really struggled.  Other teams in the comp had a couple of older stars who could take the younger players for a ride and teach them how to play.  They were pretty successful.

I think that we sit in the first scenario, with a few good/handy older players and some great young talent.  No need to bag the older players that have to try to cover the inexperience.

Nice post Dodge.

Throw ed curnow into the mix.  He is  ridiculously in the leadership group!  Throw Army in there too.  Guess what, he is in the leadership group too!   Kruzer is another.  Seriously, those 3 number 1 picks were butchered.  I'm starting to wonder whether we butchered another one (weiters).  Yes before you cut me down, we needed a forward.  Sache was the one.  He looks like he has a bit of nasties about him.  Weiters is a politically correct young chap. Wrong breed at a club already full of intraverts led by Mackay etc.   Anyway, Murphy's inglorious 0 tackle game in the weekend finished him for mine.  I never particularly liked his game style because he has always struggled to kick more that 35 metres.  For number 1 draft pick mid, this is a joke.  Gibbs doesn't give a fire truck about the club.  He's gone at the end of the year anyway.   The club is in crisis.  I've also heard from a good source (one of the carltonians) that crippa is looking for a trade end of the year.  What happens happens, but i think a board spill will end this muck very soon.  It has to because we are uncompetitive.  We belong in a different league (e.g the ammos).   Some of our kids are awesome, I love SPS and Fisher, Marchbank looks ok and I think Tom Williamson can play.  By the way while I am on it, Bolton... I am sick of his school teaching euphemisms.  Green shoots...ra ra ra.  Whatever.  Brisbane fielded a very inexperienced side and still almost knocked of the premiers.  I went to the Geelong v Saint Kilda game today, and apart from Danger and Selwood, have a guess who was possibly the 3rd best player on the ground........touey.   OMG.  Yes, that's right, he was awesome.  Why is it that players leave us and get better?  It's because we are a putza show.

That's why MM got Daisy! 

But seriously, Brisvegas doesn't have that luxury....

When Murph and Gibbs don't turn up or go in hard, no one else will either....

That other #1, Matt Kreuzer, shouldn't get away without comment.

I'll just say that in my opinion (and factoring injuries in) none of the three has got remotely close to my expectations for a #1 draft pick.

Let's pray Weitering does.