Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Jitters: Carlton vs Melbourne Reply #15 – July 04, 2017, 10:52:30 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on July 04, 2017, 08:32:52 pmFair point...some players dont bother getting up for 2's footy and maybe if he was in the seniors he might go harder and better.I like Denis but he hasnt justified a recall based on form...Dylan Buckley is probably next in the que and with his career on the line he probably deserves a couple of games to show what he has got...Denis should be tearing it up in the VFL but he's barely having an impact. I reckon that's not down to lack of effort, the game has passed him by ... and that happens to most great servants of the club. It may be a little harsh but, with hindsight, giving Denis another year was perhaps not the best list management decision. It seems that the club is interested in his coaching potential but that shouldn't mean allowing him to take up a spot on the list that could have gone to someone with potential to crack the AFL side.Like most supporters, I'd love to see Dylan emulate his old man but I don't think it's going to happen. He is a great kick but simply doesn't get enough of the ball. I can't see how he could possibly get a game ahead of blokes who have been playing better footy. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Jitters: Carlton vs Melbourne Reply #16 – July 04, 2017, 11:34:51 pm Re: DennisHis playing career may well be nearing an end. There's no doubt he's given his best and won many admirers.I remember this time last year when Dennis cut loose v Crows. He kicked 4 goals in the first half. The crowd was chanting "give it to Dennis". Memorable. We lost by 10 goals but Dennis put on a clinic. Check the highlights reel if you want to see Dennis at his best.... Quote Selected
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Jitters: Carlton vs Melbourne Reply #17 – July 05, 2017, 11:09:54 am i hope we dont fall into the trap of dees injuries the game will be easy win ,we just have to look at cats v gws Quote Selected
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Jitters: Carlton vs Melbourne Reply #18 – July 05, 2017, 09:35:27 pm Not sure this is the best thread - apologies if it's not.Q. I understand Gussy Sheehan has been upgraded - Rookie to seniors. (Courtesy LTI Phillips). What does this mean for wherw ASOS can play future games? Thx in advance folks. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Jitters: Carlton vs Melbourne Reply #19 – July 05, 2017, 10:36:17 pm Quote from: LoveNavy – on July 05, 2017, 09:35:27 pmNot sure this is the best thread - apologies if it's not.Q. I understand Gussy Sheehan has been upgraded - Rookie to seniors. (Courtesy LTI Phillips). What does this mean for wherw ASOS can play future games? Thx in advance folks. Alex has no problems: he is replacing Rowe. he can play as many as he is fit for and he will probably be available next week. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Jitters: Carlton vs Melbourne Reply #20 – July 06, 2017, 11:28:01 am Quote from: DJC – on July 04, 2017, 10:52:30 pmDenis should be tearing it up in the VFL but he's barely having an impact. I reckon that's not down to lack of effort, the game has passed him by ... and that happens to most great servants of the club. It may be a little harsh but, with hindsight, giving Denis another year was perhaps not the best list management decision. It seems that the club is interested in his coaching potential but that shouldn't mean allowing him to take up a spot on the list that could have gone to someone with potential to crack the AFL side.Like most supporters, I'd love to see Dylan emulate his old man but I don't think it's going to happen. He is a great kick but simply doesn't get enough of the ball. I can't see how he could possibly get a game ahead of blokes who have been playing better footy.Dennis did have a decent year last year so you really had to offer him another year. Then no telling when the game passes someone by. Some go to 30, others 38 but when "the wall" hits it hits quickly and insidiously. This will be his last year on the list though. Glad to she he ended up a 10 year player though.As for Buckley, at times he almost gets there. His running goals last year were so exciting but, like every other time, he slips back again. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Jitters: Carlton vs Melbourne Reply #21 – July 06, 2017, 12:10:02 pm Quote from: crashlander – on July 05, 2017, 10:36:17 pm Alex has no problems: he is replacing Rowe. he can play as many as he is fit for and he will probably be available next week.Tanks Crash.He really adds a different dimension to the back line Look forward to see him back doing what he does so well. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Jitters: Carlton vs Melbourne Reply #22 – July 06, 2017, 12:11:39 pm Quote from: DJC – on July 04, 2017, 10:52:30 pmDenis should be tearing it up in the VFL but he's barely having an impact. I reckon that's not down to lack of effort, the game has passed him by ... and that happens to most great servants of the club. It may be a little harsh but, with hindsight, giving Denis another year was perhaps not the best list management decision.I don't have a problem with his short term deal, he's clearly acting in a mentoring role for the new kids and the AFLW.As you know he is one of our more vocal players down at VFL level, and while he may no longer have that break-away power or influence he still knows where to be and when.I suppose this is a difference between Denis and Daisy, Daisy's AFL game never really relied on outside run and pace, so in that respect Denis has a bigger hurdle to overcome to get into the 1s. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Jitters: Carlton vs Melbourne Reply #23 – July 06, 2017, 06:32:44 pm CARLTONIn:J.Lamb, S.Petrevski-Seton, C.Byrne, H.Macreadie, H.McKayOut: L.Sumner, C.Marchbank (shoulder) MELBOURNEIn: J.Garlett, J.Trengove, D.Kent, J.Hogan, J.Kennedy-Harris, S.Weideman, J.SmithOut: D.Tyson (knee), T.Bugg (suspension), J.Viney (foot), M.WhiteInterchange from: 32. Nick Graham 26. Harrison Macreadie 10. Harry McKay 21. Ciaran Sheehan 13. Jed Lamb 38. Ciaran Byrne 5. Sam Petrevksi-Seton Quote Selected
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Jitters: Carlton vs Melbourne Reply #24 – July 06, 2017, 06:35:52 pm Very interesting to see if Harry makes the final cut. I think this will have a lot of people excited Quote Selected
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Jitters: Carlton vs Melbourne Reply #25 – July 06, 2017, 06:38:15 pm Quote from: LP – on July 06, 2017, 12:11:39 pmI don't have a problem with his short term deal, he's clearly acting in a mentoring role for the new kids and the AFLW.As you know he is one of our more vocal players down at VFL level, and while he may no longer have that break-away power or influence he still knows where to be and when.I suppose this is a difference between Denis and Daisy, Daisy's AFL game never really relied on outside run and pace, so in that respect Denis has a bigger hurdle to overcome to get into the 1s.Getting a little off topic but I'd like to see the club encourage retiring players to continue their career with the NBs, particularly those with the ability to mentor and encourage young blokes and provide leadership and presence on the field. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Jitters: Carlton vs Melbourne Reply #26 – July 06, 2017, 06:45:15 pm Quote from: mateinone – on July 06, 2017, 06:35:52 pmVery interesting to see if Harry makes the final cut. I think this will have a lot of people excitedGround conditions should play a significant part in the decision. He must be given very chance to succeed. Quote Selected
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Jitters: Carlton vs Melbourne Reply #27 – July 06, 2017, 06:56:48 pm Carlton's Round 16 extended squad:Backs 15. Sam Docherty 14. Liam Jones 20. Lachie PlowmanHalf-backs 43. Simon White 23. Jacob Weitering 39. Dale ThomasCentreline 6. Kade Simpson 9. Patrick Cripps 28. David CuninghamHalf-forwards 1. Jack Silvagni 41. Levi Casboult 11. Sam KerridgeForwards 25. Zac Fisher 30. Charlie Curnow 46. Matthew WrightFollowers 8. Matthew Kreuzer 4. Bryce Gibbs 3. Marc Murphy (C)Interchange from: 32. Nick Graham 26. Harrison Macreadie 10. Harry McKay 21. Ciaran Sheehan 13. Jed Lamb 38. Ciaran Byrne 5. Sam Petrevksi-Seton In: Lamb, Petrevski-Seton, Byrne, Macreadie, McKayOut: Sumner (omitted), Marchbank (shoulder) Quote Selected
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Jitters: Carlton vs Melbourne Reply #28 – July 06, 2017, 07:06:27 pm Last time I tried to guess the final line-up for a Sunday game I got it totally wrong, so, based on that Lamb won't be coming in for Sumner and Macreadie won't be coming in for Marchbank (which is what I would anticipate...)... so, Byrne for Marchbank and Samo for Sumner Quote Selected Last Edit: July 07, 2017, 08:33:14 am by Baggers
Re: Rd 16: Pre Game Jitters: Carlton vs Melbourne Reply #29 – July 06, 2017, 07:23:16 pm Quote from: Baggers – on July 06, 2017, 07:06:27 pmLast time I tried to guess the final line-up for a Sunday game I got it totally wrong, so, based on that Lamb won't be coming in for Sumner and Macreadie won't be coming in for Marchbank (which is what I would anticipate...)... so, Byrne for Macreadie and Samo for Sumner Reckon Lamb and Samo in.... Quote Selected