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Re: Blues v Swans semi final - pre game thead

Reply #105 –
I would prefer to keep Menzel in over Bell especially if we lose Kreuzer from the forward line. Bell and McLean are more like for like players.

Agree that Yarran should be the sub.

Re: Blues v Swans semi final - pre game thead

Reply #106 –
Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on
He has struggled for the majority of his Carlton career though. I'm happy to have him back we need another strong body to go to war with the Swans.

He is relatively poor against the Swans and Geelong compared to Hawthorn or Freo, but it will just be a match up issue or the way those teams structure up. Perhaps the Swans pay him a bit more respect than Hawthorn or Freo.

I do not want to start this debate all over again but I do not agree that McLean struggled, in my opinion that is a cop out for the poor selection by the MC during Ratten's period. A player is not struggling in the VFL when sports commentators and bookmakers have them listed as a favorite for the Liston Trophy, and McLean was right at the top of the odds two years running before he got a regular senior game. Even then the spud MC tried to run him off the bench as a sub, effectively removing the only natural advantages he had which are strength and endurance.

McLean's past situation is not unlike Duigan's current situation, no rhyme or reason for it, you just don't fit into the coaches plans! That doesn't make you a spud footballer!

I wouldn't be surprised that our MC run Duigan as a sub, and I say what would be the point? Duigan's biggest value to the team is being out there bashing and crashing taking the strength and energy out of opponents like Robbo, adding some chaos! If anything Duigan should start a game with the instruction to hit packs and stoppages hard early with the intention to be sub'd by a racehorse towards the end.

It is like the current rumors that Kreuzer is out and Hampson may be in, what the feck happened to Casboult? MM talked Hampson up to the media then claimed he woul dbe a big risk, I will be stuffed if you can bring in a tall player who hasn't played for eight / nine weeks. (They must be taking the piss out of Sydney over that Adam Goodes rumor!) But I fear if it is true those rumors about three Carlton injuries might be on the money, two of them are talls and the other a medium, all are marking targets!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Blues v Swans semi final - pre game thead

Reply #107 –
McLean struggled when he played senior football, no doubting that. His form in the magoos is a moot point as he failed to back it up in the seniors time and time again.
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!
 

Re: Blues v Swans semi final - pre game thead

Reply #108 –
Quote from: PassIt2Carrots – on
McLean struggled when he played senior football, no doubting that. His form in the maggos is a moot point as he failed to back it up in the seniors time and time again.

I suppose if you write it enough you believe it.

In those years he allegedly struggled statistically he bettered 18/19 other players on our list. Not too bad for a washed up spud,  of those 18/19 the following currently listed players;

2010; Ellard, Robinson, White, Henderson, Yarran, Warnock, Lucas, Armfield, Hampson, Joseph, Jamison and Davies.

2011; Laidler, Kreuzer, Lucas, Jamison, Joseph, Henderson, Hampson, Armfield Watson, Collins, Tuohy, White, Davies and O'Keefe

Lets not forget some like Casboult and Cachia who are not even named because despite being on the list they could not get a single game!

After 2011, McLean only got better!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Blues v Swans semi final - pre game thead

Reply #109 –
As LP mentioned and it’s a valid question what has happened to Levi???????

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Reply #110 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: malo – on
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
Menzel.

fair call......who starts with the jacket on ?  McLeans probably not really an "impact" player.

Armfield on recent form might make an ideal sub, but we may not need to decide.

McLean and others are the least of our problems, I am still hearing three outs this week!
I reckon Army needs a big job here. His speed and tackling is suited to playing the Swans.
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Re: Blues v Swans semi final - pre game thead

Reply #111 –
Quote from: The Fangalis – on
As LP mentioned and it’s a valid question what has happened to Levi???????

My informer tells me he trained, so not injured.

I have no fecking idea what to believe, clubs do funny crap this time of year. I remember Robert Walls telling a story that a coach had crutches delivered to a player the night before training and told him to roll up to the mid-week training on crutches and be sure to hobble right past the media. Miracle of miracles the bloke played after the media claimed all week he would not recover!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #112 –
Quote from: malo – on
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
Menzel.

fair call......who starts with the jacket on ?  McLeans probably not really an "impact" player.

Two separate coaches have not heeded this warning...
"We are a club in a hurry"

#united #reset

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Reply #113 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: malo – on
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
Menzel.

fair call......who starts with the jacket on ?  McLeans probably not really an "impact" player.

Armfield on recent form might make an ideal sub, but we may not need to decide.

McLean and others are the least of our problems, I am still hearing three outs this week!
I reckon Army needs a big job here. His speed and tackling is suited to playing the Swans.

Hannebery for Army

Yaz for Jetta

Duigan for McVeigh or Malceski

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Reply #114 –
Quote from: Mav – on
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/matthew-kreuzer-in-doubt-for-semifinal-20130911-2tjsu.html

After Kreuser last week returned 4 disposals, 4 tackles, no marks and no score at all,how much worse off would we be with The Bolt in???

I can actually see some positives in the move at this stage.

Re: Blues v Swans semi final - pre game thead

Reply #115 –
 Are the potential 3 outs?  Kreuser and 2 more?

Re: Blues v Swans semi final - pre game thead

Reply #116 –
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Blues hopeful Kreuzer will face Swans

Mick Malthouse is "extremely hopeful" Matthew Kreuzer will be fit to play in Saturday night's semi-final clash with the Sydney Swans as the ruckman battles a calf injury.

Kreuzer wasn't spotted when Carlton hit the track on Wednesday morning, but Malthouse said the 24-year-old had trained in "some capacity" as his workload was managed through the week.

The ruckman suffered the injury to his right calf in the first quarter of Sunday's comeback win over Richmond, and although his day appeared over, he played out the game.

Malthouse was optimistic Kreuzer would face the Swans at ANZ Stadium.

Mirrors, smoke....?

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2013-09-11/blues-hopeful-kreuzer-will-face-swans?camefrom=EMCL_133952_7489779
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Blues v Swans semi final - pre game thead

Reply #117 –
INS......           Levi, Brock
OUTS.....         Kruz, Menzel

Brock gives us another big bodied midfielder in the rotation which we need.
Kruz is not right, Levi can give 206 a rest and provide a legitimate forward target.
If Duigan plays forward he takes Menzels role. Eddie and Jeffy cover the small forward options
Duigan plays the mid size forward who can also play a forward defensive role. I like the balance up forward
Dont see a role for Menzel. Mcinnes is fortunate that Watso or White arent available and should keep his spot
Eat more chooks

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Reply #119 –
I noticed the media has gone quiet on the injuries to Bolton, Hannebury and McVeigh and all the talk is about whether Goodes will play.