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Re: One day squad..No Maxwell????

Reply #30 –
Quote from: Jack Burton – on
I tend to agree, big fan of Cummins in any form of the game. Hard to put a finger on it, but he always seems to be at the batsman, I would hate having to face him. I think a bigger problem is our lack of use of spinners, all the best teams have spinners that can bowl on any surface and restrict scoring and get wickets. Lyon should be playing all forms, and i would like to see Fawad Ahmed given a go in short form cricket too

Agree on Lyon ...the English spinners are rubbish but get the job done by being reasonably tight and frustrating our blokes.
Lyon is actually a threat to take wickets and I reckon when a bowler is in red hot form you play him regardless of the format.....we need to bowl teams out, we wont be winning games by trying to defend.

re: Jim's comment on Warner being ODI captain....fully agree, its a different format and Smith doesnt think quick enough on his feet. You look at Morgan vs Root and its the same thing...Morgan is proactive, reads the game fast and is all about attack. It might help Warner get a bit more interested too, looks a candidate for a 20/20 only career doing IPL, Big Bash and other overseas big money tournaments and wanting out of the grind of representing your country, that last shot he played was a lazy dont give a stuff shot, the normal Warner would have smashed that for four instead of scooping it to cover....

Re: One day squad..No Maxwell????

Reply #31 –
Just been watching highlights of the U19 World Cup Quarter Final. Decided Zampa out, Lloyd Pope in..lol.

Against England we got rolled for 127 then Pope took 8/35 to knock England over for 96. Bowled some outstanding leg spin and wrong 'uns.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/video/cricket/cricket/next-warneys-8-wicket-haul!661588?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=FoxSportsAus

Re: One day squad..No Maxwell????

Reply #32 –
why not bring this kid into the big time....?

the result is set (in the ODIs), the kid gets wickets.

Take the plunge.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: One day squad..No Maxwell????

Reply #33 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
why not bring this kid into the big time....?

the result is set (in the ODIs), the kid gets wickets.

Take the plunge.

We don't even play the best we've got now!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: One day squad..No Maxwell????

Reply #34 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
why not bring this kid into the big time....?

the result is set (in the ODIs), the kid gets wickets.

Take the plunge.

Not sure you would pull him out of the final stages of a World Cup to play a meaningless match... and I also don’t think he has played a first class match... so he would be bypassing every other spinner in the country... and he could take 0/120 off 5 overs and 2 years later is bowling 4th change for French Island 3rd XI.

On the flip side... imagine the buzz it would generate... it would be huge!

Re: One day squad..No Maxwell????

Reply #35 –
He couldn't throw up as much crap as Starc, Gees he's putrid ATM.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: One day squad..No Maxwell????

Reply #36 –
Putrid batting effort again....
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: One day squad..No Maxwell????

Reply #37 –
Senior players have been awful.  Smith, Warner stunk.  Marsh keeps getting out when set.  Starc is bowling Shiite and batting is even worse..... A LOT of work to do before S.A. tour.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: One day squad..No Maxwell????

Reply #38 –
between the ears mostly....

Massive mistake playing White -  a has been on a good day....

Selectors should be shot,.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: One day squad..No Maxwell????

Reply #39 –
Morgan is an excellent captain, players want to play for him and lift when he asks for the extra effort, his field placings and ability to attack at the right time are second to none......England could do worse than making him captain in the test team if he could hold his spot. Root is a much better player too when not given the captains role.
Think Warner has to do a Morgan and be given the ODI team to captain, Smith just doesnt have the know how or imagination to change the game at the critical moments..
Lyon has to play ODI IMO....Starc and Hazlewood maybe need resting for ODI and only turn out for test cricket and we play specialist one day bowlers.
Willey didnt take a wicket but I thought his second spell was spot on, swings the ball and was so accurate our blokes couldnt get him off the square and he paved the way for Curran to clean us up...
Think we will do better in the 20/20 games and reap the rewards of some of our players being in the BBL and we should win easily IMO......
Expect Darcy Short, Chris Lynn and Andrew Tye to be standouts.....


IPL contracts....Morgan and Root missed out as did Nathan Lyon??????....cant believe Lyon cannot get a game in the IPL.
Andrew Tye however was signed by the Kings XI Punjab for a lazy 1 million dollars, Darcy Short 775K......just shows too how the BBL is a pre show for the IPL and why
overseas players and Aus players want to play BBL...Stoinis, Lynn, Finch, Maxwell all on life changing big money ....
Chris Woakes also on 1.44 mill yet Josh Hazlewood didnt attract a initial auction bid....

Re: One day squad..No Maxwell????

Reply #40 –
Even Gayle missed out round 1.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: One day squad..No Maxwell????

Reply #41 –
Can't agree more EB.... Warner should  be the short form captain.  Smith should be taken aside and told to concentrate on test cricket - like Clarke before him his batting really isn't that suited to the short format (he normally plays himself in) and his captaincy is far to reactive and conservative.

The prediliction with pace bowling works at test level but taking the pace from the ball is the go when the hitters start swing... we seem to be looking for a new generation of allrounders with the shelving of Faulkner etc and the selectors seem loathe to fiddle with Lyon now that he is a serious threat at test level.  The side really is in transition ATM.

Poms have a swag of decent seamers and two spinners (plus Root) who can swing the bat hard in the allrounder mode - we  fall short in that area although Stonis, Marsh and Maxwell can do roles.

As for specialist one day bats, I can think of Finch, Lynn, Head - after that the well kind of dries up as opposed to Roy, Hale etc.

Zampa needs to start taking wickets as you can't carry specialist bowlers who are ineffective and can't bat... maybe Ahmed or Agar could get a gig instead.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: One day squad..No Maxwell????

Reply #42 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Can't agree more EB.... Warner should  be the short form captain.  Smith should be taken aside and told to concentrate on test cricket - like Clarke before him his batting really isn't that suited to the short format (he normally plays himself in) and his captaincy is far to reactive and conservative.

The prediliction with pace bowling works at test level but taking the pace from the ball is the go when the hitters start swing... we seem to be looking for a new generation of allrounders with the shelving of Faulkner etc and the selectors seem loathe to fiddle with Lyon now that he is a serious threat at test level.  The side really is in transition ATM.

Poms have a swag of decent seamers and two spinners (plus Root) who can swing the bat hard in the allrounder mode - we  fall short in that area although Stonis, Marsh and Maxwell can do roles.

As for specialist one day bats, I can think of Finch, Lynn, Head - after that the well kind of dries up as opposed to Roy, Hale etc.

Zampa needs to start taking wickets as you can't carry specialist bowlers who are ineffective and can't bat... maybe Ahmed or Agar could get a gig instead.

Yes to Agar, absolutely.  there's something about finger spinners that make them harder to hit.....unless you are a world class leggy, which Zampa is not.  Agar is a very clean striker of the ball as well.  I hope he gets a gong again in tests one day soon.

Need to can the idea of playing your test fast bowling attack in a one day series right before another huge test series vs SAF.  If there's nothing scheduled, then fine.  Mind you, at least they've not played all of them in all 5 matches.  Mitchell Starc really needs to be playing a match or two in shield cricket, he is bowling poop atm.  But there'll be none of that while the Big Bash hold court for over a month !.




Life is pain....... anyone who says differently is selling something.

Re: One day squad..No Maxwell????

Reply #43 –
Zampa has lost his mojo.... Starc?

in my opinion, clearly hampered by the foot. No more cricket until SA. There's a 3 day game before the 1st Test to find the rhythm!

Still bowls the unplayable ball nonetheless.

Was good to see Marsh bowling around 140 clicks again, the shoulder must be loosening up.
Finals, then 4 in a row!
 

Re: One day squad..No Maxwell????

Reply #44 –
Starc is a rubbish ODI bowler, he should follow Smith out the door!

Marsh would want to be bowling 140 because there is a raft of players who'd be better middle order batting options! But lets not get carried away with Marsh, he's only bowled 18 overs in five games, when he's bowled 40 or 50 overs in five games we'll have something to talk about!

But I don't blame Marsh for the 18 overs, that's Smith's fault. Smith is still in test mode! Perhaps Smith should microphone himself up so he can have a chat and get a suggestion from the commentators!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"