Carlton Supporters Club

Lone ruck??
You've been telling everyone for years that casboult is so important to us because he is a 2nd ruckman and cant be judged as just a key forward. 

What's wrong with you at times. Being fwit for the sake of it....again. Make your ego and your little insecurities feel better? Think you know what I mean unless you're as dumb as dog poo.

In other words ruck most of the day.  No-one rucks 100% of the day. The 2nd ruck in that situation does about 20% of the job, not 50. And that 20% is pretty important.

Brownlow votes head to head. Jacobs 2 - Kreuzer 0.

So after all your debate, it comes down to one game, your ultimate basis of declaring dominance is one game!

Nope.

Your call is just wrong and declaring it wrong doesn't need any explanation because reality is in the stats. For every case you cited there is a clear counterpoint or explanation reveal in hard figures that you cherry-pick select cases from to support your generalised argument.

You have become the Trump of CarltonSC! Throwing sh1t at sh1t and covering it in more crap, until the facts are buried deep in it far from view. You are not even self-consistent in your debate, and you address that fact by declaring others are being inconsistent.

But I'm not distracted by your tactics anymore. I've called you on this bullcrap more than enough, it's clear from all the hard data that Jacobs and Kreuzer are at worst break evens in Carlton and Crows matches but you can't help yourself, it's your way. You made a sweeping general statement and now you'll happily bury the truth to prove yourself "right!"

Quoting Lana Kane, Noooooooope!

You're sweeping statement/inference that Jacobs is/has in anyway been dominant against, with or without Kreuzer, in anyway you want to look at it, is just plain wrong!

You need to take off your Jacobs coloured glasses, they make the world look ginger!

Without naming names, I get the feeling that if some of the forum posters were put in charge of a council road crew, the first thing they would do is sack the person digging for failing to do everything!

Regardless of whether Kreuzer is better than Jacobs or vice versa I'll be hoping like crazy that he plays this weekend because Sauce will be much too good for Phillips.
Not only in the ruck either, Kreuzer does much more in general play, and I'm getting sick of being spanked.
But it's been that sort of year and Jacobs will probably be BOG and remind us yet again that we rated him below Warnock and Hampson. 

See for me irrespective of this weekend we should ruck Phillips and Casboult and leave Kreuzer to recover.

We need to put the best possible team on the park.

Yes we do.  However, it seems that that the MC may be determined to get games into our young blokes, regardless of how that reduces our competitiveness. 

I'm quite comfortable with that approach but I think that we have to win a few games to keep the supporters on board ... as well as teaching the young blokes that hard work and sustained effort creates rewards.