Re: Blues Brothers trip to the tribunal Reply #30 – May 14, 2018, 06:13:16 pm I find all of this stuff increasingly wearisome and tedious tbh. We seriously need to drain the swamp - it's a morass of petty rules and restrictions that we don't need. Just fodder for the media who are looking for sensation/scandal rather than producing some real sports journalism. Quote Selected
Re: Blues Brothers trip to the tribunal Reply #31 – May 14, 2018, 06:17:41 pm This particular crackdown is starting to look a bit silly.There's probably a dozen instances of umpire contact a round.Trivial contact shouldn't even be an issue.Common sense needs to come in to play.If an umpire feels a line has been crossed report the player...otherwise, play on! Quote Selected
Re: Blues Brothers trip to the tribunal Reply #32 – May 14, 2018, 06:26:00 pm I think the rule is pretty simple and transparent, and probably fair enough. If you deliberately touch the ump, however gently or daintily, you're in strife. And I agree. They're an official of the game, not a fellow player, and you can't be touching them - it breeds a certain lack of respect. It's like a student touching a teacher in my view. Quote Selected
Re: Blues Brothers trip to the tribunal Reply #33 – May 14, 2018, 06:29:32 pm Quote from: PaulP – on May 14, 2018, 06:26:00 pmI think the rule is pretty simple and transparent, and probably fair enough. If you deliberately touch the ump, however gently or daintily, you're in strife. And I agree. They're an official of the game, not a fellow player, and you can't be touching them - it breeds a certain lack of respect. It's like a student touching a teacher in my view.Folks are starting to post pics of incidental umpire contact.It happens fairly regularly.With the umpires in close on stoppages you're going to see it often.There has to be a degree of common sense.Looks like we're the target for this week. Quote Selected Last Edit: May 14, 2018, 06:37:12 pm by Lods
Re: Blues Brothers trip to the tribunal Reply #34 – May 14, 2018, 06:39:35 pm 9 weeks? Quote Selected
Re: Blues Brothers trip to the tribunal Reply #35 – May 14, 2018, 06:46:34 pm Surely no weeks if May didn't get any Quote Selected
Re: Blues Brothers trip to the tribunal Reply #36 – May 14, 2018, 06:48:40 pm Quote from: cookie2 – on May 14, 2018, 06:13:16 pmI find all of this stuff increasingly wearisome and tedious tbh. We seriously need to drain the swamp - it's a morass of petty rules and restrictions that we don't need. Just fodder for the media who are looking for sensation/scandal rather than producing some real sports journalism. AgreeIt’s like they can’t work out how to draw distinctions - it’s pretty clear to me what is contact which means nothing or is contact which is threatening, etc Quote Selected
Re: Blues Brothers trip to the tribunal Reply #37 – May 14, 2018, 06:59:49 pm Quote from: dodge – on May 14, 2018, 06:46:34 pmSurely no weeks if May didn't get anyThat would be the logical conclusion, if there were any logic involved here.... Quote Selected
Re: Blues Brothers trip to the tribunal Reply #38 – May 14, 2018, 07:02:34 pm Quote from: flyboy77 – on May 14, 2018, 06:59:49 pmThat would be the logical conclusion, if there were any logic involved here.... There's not..... but it's probably worth the risk to challenge given our ladder position.Worst case we get to play a couple of other players (maybe Kerr) for a few weeks Quote Selected
Re: Blues Brothers trip to the tribunal Reply #39 – May 14, 2018, 07:16:50 pm Quote from: PaulP – on May 14, 2018, 06:26:00 pmI think the rule is pretty simple and transparent, and probably fair enough. If you deliberately touch the ump, however gently or daintily, you're in strife. And I agree. They're an official of the game, not a fellow player, and you can't be touching them - it breeds a certain lack of respect. It's like a student touching a teacher in my view.x2. Quote Selected
Re: Blues Brothers trip to the tribunal Reply #40 – May 14, 2018, 07:27:21 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on May 14, 2018, 07:16:50 pmx2.Great saying "x2" but we've just seen - very clearly - with the May decision, that the rule is not clear and transparent.Quite the opposite sadly. Quote Selected
Re: Blues Brothers trip to the tribunal Reply #41 – May 14, 2018, 07:40:19 pm Quote from: Lods – on May 14, 2018, 07:02:34 pmThere's not..... but it's probably worth the risk to challenge given our ladder position.Worst case we get to play a couple of other players (maybe Kerr) for a few weeksIf nothing else, it's going to make the AFL look like total dumb ass amateur clowns - which they obviously are (allegedly)... Quote Selected
Re: Blues Brothers trip to the tribunal Reply #42 – May 14, 2018, 07:42:12 pm Quote from: flyboy77 – on May 14, 2018, 07:27:21 pmGreat saying "x2" but we've just seen - very clearly - with the May decision, that the rule is not clear and transparent.Quite the opposite sadly.Im suggesting its a fine as opposed to suspension. May was attempting the show the umpire what happened and made contact in doing so. Charlie almost tried to shield the ump from the scuffle. Eds one? Not sure. Still reckons its a fine. Quote Selected
Re: Blues Brothers trip to the tribunal Reply #43 – May 14, 2018, 07:47:00 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on May 14, 2018, 07:42:12 pmIm suggesting its a fine as opposed to suspension. May was attempting the show the umpire what happened and made contact in doing so. Charlie almost tried to shield the ump from the scuffle. Eds one? Not sure. Still reckons its a fine.A fine is a sensible outcome - but it's not an AFL strong point (being sensible).I (arguably) know what May (and I agree with you) was trying to do but the impact on the umpire was 20x the impact from either of the Curnow touches.... Quote Selected
Re: Blues Brothers trip to the tribunal Reply #44 – May 14, 2018, 07:52:20 pm Quote from: flyboy77 – on May 14, 2018, 07:47:00 pmA fine is a sensible outcome - but it's not an AFL strong point (being sensible).I (arguably) know what May (and I agree with you) was trying to do but the impact on the umpire was 20x the impact from either of the Curnow touches....We are in agreement here, but I think we are splitting hairs. I have watched them all and in all three cases, the umpire is moved back slightly by the contact. Lets see what happens. Quote Selected