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2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn

The end of season can't come quick enough.
 

Re: 2018 Rd 17: Post Game whatever : Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #1 –
Quote from: PaulP on
The end of season can't come quick enough.

Mine comes earlier. Go to Europe in a few weeks. Leave the $hit to you guys..lol.

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3rd 10+ goal belting in a row....Bolts has to be feeling the pressure surely?

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Reply #3 –
Quote from: laj on
Mine comes earlier. Go to Europe in a few weeks. Leave the $hit to you guys..lol.

Gee, thanks. If the old Carlton gods get their way, we might have a new coach when you return.

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Reply #4 –
Quote from: crazyjoedevolamk11 on
3rd 10+ goal belting in a row....Bolts has to be feeling the pressure surely?

3 week we’ve lost a player early in the first quarter and ?? time we’ve ended with 2 on the bench. Observation rather than an excuse.

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Reply #5 –
Quote from: crazyjoedevolamk11 on
3rd 10+ goal belting in a row....Bolts has to be feeling the pressure surely?
There has to be changes in approach to our coaching , what we are doing isn't working, injuries don't help, but we show some green shoots, problem is they don't matt to become grass.

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Quote from: townsendcalling on
3 week we’ve lost a player early in the first quarter and ?? time we’ve ended with 2 on the bench. Observation rather than an excuse.

We usually a $hitload behind though before that takes effect. Think it's time to go for Bolts.

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Bolton is inept tactically, why you wouldnt tag Mitchell is beyond me and its not the first time he has done this......Ed Curnow on Issac Smith when he should have been on Mitchell....think the latter had about 11-12 scoring involvements as well.
Hawks are not that good we are just as inept in the coaches box as on the ground......

Weitering played his best game for a while and apart from one or two mistakes was good today...
Harry needs new boots.....
Kennedy battled on after a poor start where his disposal was terrible but he did improve...
Polson...not a fan but he had a better game and tried...unlucky with that last tackle on him that was high IMO....
Lobbe...did well and gives some leadership, probably a bit more physical than Kreuzer and Philips...
Shaw.....lost vs Bruest, Poppy.....
Cripps....fought on well after being decked by Howe
Graham....one of his better outings error wise but low impact..
Charlie...quiet by his standards but supply was poor...
Wright....ok when he got the ball but not enough
Jack...ok down back, probably helps his lack of pace.
Simpson...ok..not great
Murphy...got a few kicks but low impact.
Levi...poor
Harry.....kicking was putrid and looked a bit lazy...
Pickett....exciting run and does some good stuff but not enough.
Obrien....didnt see much of him.
Dow....didnt see much of him but if he was on Worpel he got a lesson...
Fisher...missed  his input a lot
Jones....missed as well
Marchbank...still rusty....
Ed...ok on Smith and battled on, needed to be on Mitchell...

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Bolts ain’t going anywhere.
Showed in his first two years when injuries weren’t such an issue that he can coach.
Needs the right support staff around him and a better playing list.

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Levi was pathetic. Looked disinterested and falls over most times he’s anywhere near it.
Coach was poor.
We started terribly with our disposal killing us.
We look like weak kids. We need some serious physicality

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Reply #10 –
Quote from: JonHenry on
Levi was pathetic. Looked disinterested and gals over most times he’s anywhere near it.
Coach was poor.
We started terribly with our disposal killing us.
We look like weak kids. We need some serious physicality

How long have I have been saying that for, we got roughed up and fell apart under the physical pressure......
Hawks stepped off the gas a bit and allowed us back in but it was a easy win for them given we lost two players and
just didnt have the mature bodies to fight fire with fire......

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Only thing is those young players we've recruited the last few drafts do look ok. Kennedy now showing we made a good decision recruiting him. With Marchbank and Pickett as well when they are properly fit again they'll be good pick ups, Weitering looks better with responsibility of a key position. SPS was better, but probably best to play as a smaller forward with only the odd role in the midfield. Polson probably took a step today. SOJ much better in defence with a role but his kicking was wobbly. Schumaker had a good one with the NB's today, reckon he can replace Shaw next week. Reckon now if we are to go with another tall forward, not that we need to, let it be De Konning for a few games rather than Levi now. he does look a player.

Now just need a coach who can get the best out of them. Current one can't. Really shouldn't be as crap as we are.

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Quote from: Dominator_7 on
Bolts ain’t going anywhere.
Showed in his first two years when injuries weren’t such an issue that he can coach.
Needs the right support staff around him and a better playing list.

Can't go this far backwards. No amount of injuries can be excuse for a near winless season. Game plan is terrible.

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Reply #13 –
Quote from: JonHenry on
Levi was pathetic. Looked disinterested and falls over most times he’s anywhere near it.
Coach was poor.
We started terribly with our disposal killing us.
We look like weak kids. We need some serious physicality

If we're going to have another tall in there may as well be De Konning for a few games rather than Levi. Levi's done a pretty good job over the years given his talent filling that gap between losing Waite and Henderson and the young ones coming though but after his contract runs out his time is probably done. He'll be 30. Good to have with the NB's for another year to help young one's along but that's it. He come as pick 44 in a rookie draft so we've done well to get out of him what we have with his limited ability. His 100th game was one of his best games for the club but since he busted his rib he's really struggled.

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Reply #14 –
Quote from: laj on
Only thing is those young players we've recruited the last few drafts do look ok. Kennedy now showing we made a good decision recruiting him. With Marchbank and Pickett as well when they are properly fit again they'll be good pick ups, Weitering looks better with responsibility of a key position. SPS was better, but probably best to play as a smaller forward with only the odd role in the midfield. Polson probably took a step today. SOJ much better in defence with a role but his kicking was wobbly. Schumaker had a good one with the NB's today, reckon he can replace Shaw next week. Reckon now if we are to go with another tall forward, not that we need to, let it be De Konning for a few games rather than Levi now. he does look a player.

Now just need a coach who can get the best out of them. Current one can't. Really shouldn't be as crap as we are.

Reckon Kruezer will come back for Levi but play more forward.....Lobbe has to stay in IMO...Witts had 56 hitouts and 9 tackles vs Sydney and usually does well vs Kreuzer...

re: Kennedy....still not convinced, 1st quarter was terrible, just handed the ball to Hawks players but did improve as the game went on...not a frontline mid IMO..more your Blue Collar 4th mid who needs some class around him to make up for his rough disposal....