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Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #30 –
Quote from: laj – on
If worst comes to the worst I'll happily take that "one hit wonder" though.

The Dogs did come from 7th so they weren't that good. Just played a great September.

Nah!
I expect more than just one or two good years for all this pain. ;)

Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #31 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Nah!
I expect more than just one or two good years for all this pain. ;)

Yes there is no guarantee, so you need to be up there in the mix for a extended period to justify all this pain!

If they feck this up scorched earth list tactic up, SOS won't be welcome back ever, because it will be the biggest fail in the history of the AFL!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #32 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Nah!
I expect more than just one or two good years for all this pain. ;)
  I did say if worst comes to the worst...lol.

Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #33 –
Quote from: laj – on
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
Within those 3 years we have had the biggest turn over of players know to man, a shocking run with injuries that has meant that ‘fillers’ have had  to be more permanent and structurally we have had no continuity all year.  More composure in the middle (l.e a couple of decent ballusers to help Cripps), more understanding between McKay and Curnow and throw in De Koning (they have played 1 game together!!) and some solidification in the back line will hopefully make a power of difference.
There should be at least some system and structure after 3 years. That side today wasn't exactly rubbish, which his a good sign, but we want someone to get the best out of their ability as a unit.

Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #35 –
At the game, it seemed that the ball was down their end for most of it, and it came out of our forward 50 pretty easily and quickly.  It was great to see how we celebrated TDK's goal.

There is no way that Bont should have got a free kick.  The umpire guessed and gave Jong a 50.  That killed the slim chance that we had.

Also excellent to see the peanut that threw the bottle onto the ground escorted out quickly - well done to everyone around him to point him out.

Endeavour was good.  We continue to make skill errors when transferring across the ground that bite us.  Cleaner there and we would improve straight away (players up the ground have a chance to get the ball, we don't waste time and energy trying to fix mistakes and have to fight to get the ball again).

We have a Kerridge Kunundrum.  He is a good size and can get the ball for us (needed attibutes), but unfortunately, it doesn't stay with us for long (don't need these attributes).  If he was able to improve his efficiency by a lot, he would be good.

Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #36 –
Quote from: dodge – on
At the game, it seemed that the ball was down their end for most of it, and it came out of our forward 50 pretty easily and quickly.

Our mids got smashed today, one of our worst performances for the season, and fans want to point the finger at our defence!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #37 –
Quote from: dodge – on
At the game, it seemed that the ball was down their end for most of it, and it came out of our forward 50 pretty easily and quickly.  It was great to see how we celebrated TDK's goal.

There is no way that Bont should have got a free kick.  The umpire guessed and gave Jong a 50.  That killed the slim chance that we had.

Also excellent to see the peanut that threw the bottle onto the ground escorted out quickly - well done to everyone around him to point him out.

Endeavour was good.  We continue to make skill errors when transferring across the ground that bite us.  Cleaner there and we would improve straight away (players up the ground have a chance to get the ball, we don't waste time and energy trying to fix mistakes and have to fight to get the ball again).

We have a Kerridge Kunundrum.  He is a good size and can get the ball for us (needed attibutes), but unfortunately, it doesn't stay with us for long (don't need these attributes).  If he was able to improve his efficiency by a lot, he would be good.

Disposal efficiency is great and all, but we don't necessarily need them all to hit targets.

Kerridge's issue is that he selects the wrong ones and then he misses it to boot.

I'll take a bloke that runs at 75+ de and selects excellent options ahead of a bloke that can hit lasers and kicks it to the wrong players in the wrong positions killing momentum.

Kerridge is poor at both and is out come end of year.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #38 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Yes, the AFL should really clamp down hard on players coaches etc. trying to sway opinion so blatantly and shamelessly. Very poor form trying to say that we're not that bad because we're nearly beat your crap truck team, therefore we should only get a PP at the end of the 1st round. No honour among thieves.

Compare to Bolton's response on this question, who is probably too honourable for his own good.

Way out of line I agree

Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #39 –
Beveridges comments are very interesting re PP’S.
First he says they should be end of first round, then he says, or there should be a caveat on how they are used, suggesting they maybe should have to be traded for an experienced player.
1 - either he is really stupid and hasn’t realised once the draft pick is traded, that the other club still uses that pick before the WB.
Or
2 - we are in serious discussions with a player or two and he sees a potential trade option in his favour
 

Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #40 –
Beveridge ran off at the mouth a bit if you asked me.   If that wasn't a dive it was a very good imitation of one.

Total midfield dominance to win by three goals.... Explain that one Luke.

And JJ's haircut should be banned,  it's just awful.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #41 –
Who would have thunk it, an AFL coach makes comments based on his vested interests! ::)

Next thing you know they'll be putting them on a rules sub-committee! :o

This is clearly where the AFL, which wants to be so professional on world sport in effect becoming one of the big boys, remains decidedly suburban!

When BB eventually gets sick of his team being bent over, you'll see a change in the way he responds to this sort of rubbish, because it has a very real effect. Bont is a good boy, Bont doesn't do nuffin, Bont got picked on, Bont is being dissed!, etc., etc., etc..

Bont will get a golden run from the umpires for the next half dozen outings, if there were so many left, and fans will complain that the stars get a free lunch! Commentators will call for an end to Lamb, Thomas or Mullett style tactics and Carlton will get crucified!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #42 –
Quote from: dodge – on
There is no way that Bont should have got a free kick.  The umpire guessed and gave Jong a 50.  That killed the slim chance that we had.

Bontompelli should be fined for staging and for the contact to Lamb’s face that initiated the incident.  It won’t happen though and, even if it did, the score will stand  >:(
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #43 –
It was extremely frustrating to see that Bont overreaction and that goal that came from it and then it was all over.

I love the Bont tho but felt for Lamb then.

Re: 2018 Rd 22: Post Game Intelligent Discussion: Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #44 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Bontompelli should be fined for staging and for the contact to Lamb’s face that initiated the incident.  It won’t happen though and, even if it did, the score will stand  >:(

As so often happens, the perp gets away scot-free and the retaliator cops it, especially if the perp is a deity.
Reality always wins in the end.