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Re: GM to dump Holden

Reply #136
I've heard it might be Isuzu picking up the Holden badge, I think they use to build the bulk of the Rodeo anyway so they probably have all the tooling needed already!

There are also rumors of a new Crewman style ute in development.

Why is this important? Primarily because it gives existing owners a new avenue to buy spare parts and get servicing, the owners of those cars did nothing wrong yet many on the land in particular are effectively left in the lurch, as regional dealerships and supply chains evaporate after our government gave GM a $650M gift to pack up and leave!

We can sit here and discuss the sins of GM, Ford, Mercedes, Audi, Volkswagon endlessly, but there are millions of not so wealthy Australians who perhaps bought their first ever new car in the last few years and have been left in the lurch by corporate greed.
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Re: GM to dump Holden

Reply #137
I've heard it might be Isuzu picking up the Holden badge, I think they use to build the bulk of the Rodeo anyway so they probably have all the tooling needed already!

There are also rumors of a new Crewman style ute in development.

Why is this important? Primarily because it gives existing owners a new avenue to buy spare parts and get servicing, the owners of those cars did nothing wrong yet many on the land in particular are effectively left in the lurch, as regional dealerships and supply chains evaporate after our government gave GM a $650M gift to pack up and leave!

We can sit here and discuss the sins of GM, Ford, Mercedes, Audi, Volkswagon endlessly, but there are millions of not so wealthy Australian's who perhaps bought their first ever new car in the last few years and have been left in the lurch by corporate greed.

So true, Spotted One.

Personally I'd love to see an initiative to manufacture a 100% Aussie automotive product... but that's probably pie in the sky stuff and probably demonstrating my economic naivety. But I do reckon that given the choice a lot of Aussie's would support a local product, especially in light of what has happened in recent times (Covid etc).
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Re: GM to dump Holden

Reply #138
So true, Spotted One.

Personally I'd love to see an initiative to manufacture a 100% Aussie automotive product... but that's probably pie in the sky stuff and probably demonstrating my economic naivety. But I do reckon that given the choice a lot of Aussie's would support a local product, especially in light of what has happened in recent times (Covid etc).

Would you pay extra for a sub-standard product?

Not many people would, and thats why we don't have an automotive industry here.

Re: GM to dump Holden

Reply #139
So true, Spotted One.
It's unconscionable behaviour Baggers.

Firstly, those corporate decisions like GM's departure take years to put into place and effect. They are usually the consequence of many things including foreign investment carrots from the country that they move into. Typically coming after an election cycle, not some overnight shock decision.

Those pricks took $650M off Australian tax payers having already decided to leave, our politicians are pissweak!

Secondly our politicians, at the moment they bitch and moan about spending $100B on keeping people from going COVID insane and having the joint fall into anarchy. Yet that GM decision shows you how little money really means to the politicians.

If they proactively had spent 1/5th of that $100B on local supply chains we'd still have home grown steel, aluminium, pharmaceutical, technologies, automotive, clean energy, water security, etc., etc.., and decent public transport like fast rail for example. We wouldn't just be digging up shizen only to have China add value and profit from it!

Instead they spent years telling us it's all too expensive, but the lie is exposed now!
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Re: GM to dump Holden

Reply #140
The VFT project (been yapped about for 50 years)  Cash for clunkers (Gillard stole that dumb idea from Obama and was a total failure)  French Submarines (only 90 billion and a complete Turnbull FU)  Badgery's creek 2nd SYD airport.  Our politicians are 'effin useless in spending money.

On the car front, at least we're not responsible for the Datsun Sunny.

Re: GM to dump Holden

Reply #141
The VFT project (been yapped about for 50 years)  Cash for clunkers (Gillard stole that dumb idea from Obama and was a total failure)  French Submarines (only 90 billion and a complete Turnbull FU)  Badgery's creek 2nd SYD airport.  Our politicians are 'effin useless in spending money.

On the car front, at least we're not responsible for the Datsun Sunny.

Whats wrong with the Datsun Sunny? My mate inherited his mums when we turned 18, he thrashed the living bejesus out of it and it never missed a beat. Never serviced it, just put fuel in it and thrashed it.
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2018 - Wooden Spoon
2019 - 16th
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2021 - Pi$$ or get off the pot

Re: GM to dump Holden

Reply #142
Wouldn't have been caught dead in one when I was 18. "Sunny" ... really? :)

As Effie would say, "how embarassment"

I had a Torana GTR XU1 ... now THAT was a car.  Your first GTC?

 

Re: GM to dump Holden

Reply #143
Wouldn't have been caught dead in one when I was 18. "Sunny" ... really? :)

As Effie would say, "how embarassment"

I had a Torana GTR XU1 ... now THAT was a car.  Your first GTC?

 
Mini Cooper... Got hit by an old red Gilbertsons meat truck.

Re: GM to dump Holden

Reply #144
Wouldn't have been caught dead in one when I was 18. "Sunny" ... really? :)

As Effie would say, "how embarassment"

I had a Torana GTR XU1 ... now THAT was a car.  Your first GTC?

 
Mk1 Ford Escort 2 dr. Thumping 1300 hahahaha. I nearly bought a LC GTR (orig) when I was 18, the old man stepped in and told me I'd kill myself in it wouldn't let me buy it. In the lates 70s early 80s, my cousin owned one of the handfull of original Harry Firth built LJ GTR XU1 (red) with a 308 in it. Just imagine what that would be worth today? Priceless. Im actually looking for a for 2dr V8 LJ or LC at the right price (cheap) which I wont find. One day Cap, one day!!
2017 - 16th
2018 - Wooden Spoon
2019 - 16th
2020 - dare to dream?
2021 - Pi$$ or get off the pot

Re: GM to dump Holden

Reply #145
Would you pay extra for a sub-standard product?

Not many people would, and thats why we don't have an automotive industry here.

That would be the proviso... that it was a quality product, but with our labour not cheap and so on, the price would be prohibitive... as I mentioned, I freely admit to economic naivety... but it's nice to dream.
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Re: GM to dump Holden

Reply #146
That would be the proviso... that it was a quality product, but with our labour not cheap and so on, the price would be prohibitive... as I mentioned, I freely admit to economic naivety... but it's nice to dream.

I hear you.

I said when the corona virus started that it would be the perfect time to kickstart our own manufacturing industry again.

Even if the governments give tax exemptions to companies down here to keep them afloat, it would be beneficial to the nation. Provide plenty of work for those who can't find any and make us less reliant on those overseas which would help if this happens again in the future (or drags on).

Re: GM to dump Holden

Reply #147
I hear you.

I said when the corona virus started that it would be the perfect time to kickstart our own manufacturing industry again.

Even if the governments give tax exemptions to companies down here to keep them afloat, it would be beneficial to the nation. Provide plenty of work for those who can't find any and make us less reliant on those overseas which would help if this happens again in the future (or drags on).

Totally agree. Local manufacturing makes more sense now considering the world will be different for a while. I suspect many nations will also be considering greater self sufficiency in light of Covid... and the next nasty virus.

As an aside, Mrs Baggers (stuck working from home since March) was telling me that she has spoken with a number (not huge) of corporate heads who are now seriously considering downsizing their premises and having more folks (especially admin) working from home. Many cynical employers have discovered that most folks work well, if not better, from home. The slackers soon reveal themselves through low productivity.
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Re: GM to dump Holden

Reply #148
Im actually looking for a 2dr V8 LJ or LC at the right price (cheap) which I wont find. One day Cap, one day!!

Keep wishin' GTC ... ya never know.  Always hated the LC grille and their GT steering wheel.  LJ equivs far more attractive.  That 1300 Escort ... oh well, I had one too.  Gutless :)   

Re: GM to dump Holden

Reply #149
Whats wrong with the Datsun Sunny? My mate inherited his mums when we turned 18, he thrashed the living bejesus out of it and it never missed a beat. Never serviced it, just put fuel in it and thrashed it.

Bit like my first car, EH Hydromatic. Thrashed it for a few weeks and successfully killed it... burnt out the electrical system and fckd the transmission. Traded it for a silver XW... it was a ripper, never missed a beat.
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