Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood Reply #75 – April 23, 2019, 12:18:54 pm Quote from: flyboy77 – on April 22, 2019, 01:58:18 pmI'm relaxed!Good. Some people are going to be critical, and some people put a bit of time into putting their opinion onto this website. Its usually formed off a perception, and/or data collected to draw a conclusion.If you would like to debate someone's opinion, feel free, but I don't think words to the following effect provide anything constructive to our discussions.Quote from: flyboy77 – on April 21, 2019, 09:03:44 amKennedy - to suggest Graham is a better player is pure stupidity.I would imagine he's been copping flak from ALL quarters re his Folau guffaw....his head would be a mess (and why he's not playing 1s). Cut him some slack.Stocker - 19yo in his second outing with the big boys....again, slack needed!Fair enough to say cut some slack, not fair to say pure stupidity. You could assert it's a bit of a stretch, but if thats RR's opinion, then he is entitled to it. He made the treck to Victoria Park to watch our boys play. Has been doing it in the VFL for years, and whilst he is happy to contribute his opinion, we should take it all with a grain of salt as it is only one persons opinion, but at the same time be thankful that he is contributing it at all.He has gotten more right than wrong at this level over the years too. I can't think of a player he has labelled as not doing that well that actually bucked the trend, and from memory was a bit of a fan of Kane Lambert when he was playing with Northern. Quote Selected
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood Reply #76 – April 23, 2019, 12:31:38 pm You clearly don't have an ex wife like mine Thry! Quote Selected
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood Reply #77 – April 23, 2019, 12:36:45 pm Quote from: flyboy77 – on April 23, 2019, 12:31:38 pmYou clearly don't have an ex wife like mine Thry! I don't now your ex wife, but I know my current wife, and there is still time yet.... Quote Selected
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood Reply #78 – April 23, 2019, 08:03:55 pm I have always appreciated RiverRat’s brutal analyses of NBs players but everyone sees the game differently and I am looking forward to Josh Fraser’s report.I’m not sure whether Matthew Kennedy will have an impact at our club but, in the limited, injury-hampered time he has had so far, he has shown a great deal more than Nick Graham ever did. He may be a depth player but we won’t lose much if Kennedy gets a call up.Kerr impresses me as a bloke who reads the game well and gets to where the ball is heading. He also makes good decisions and has a footballer’s head on his shoulders.I know that statistics can be misleading but it’s worth looking at the hitout stats; Phillips - 30, Lynch - 28, Lobbe - 23, and Reid - 6. Lynch did get a lot of the ball (17 disposals to 17 by Phillips and Lobbe) but Lobbe kicked a goal and probably should have got more.As for Fasolo, it is quite clear that he was added to the list to provide an experienced head and reliable goal kicker. It’s a bit early to write him off but I would be more than happy for our youngsters to keep him out of the 22. Quote Selected
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood Reply #79 – April 23, 2019, 11:57:37 pm Quote from: bmaurizio – on April 23, 2019, 12:10:38 amThanks for your insight RR much appreciated, what did you think of Frank Anderson? is he in contention along with Sam Fisher maybe Jessie Palmer for the final place on the list?That was the first VFL game I made it to this year so I was focused on the large number of Carlton-listed players, many of whom I hadn't seem before. Accordingly, I really didn't notice what the Northern players were doing - with the exception of Keppel who was quite imposing when he had a chance to get some playing time. Quote Selected
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood Reply #80 – April 24, 2019, 12:03:09 am Quote from: Thryleon – on April 23, 2019, 12:18:54 pmHe has gotten more right than wrong at this level over the years too. I can't think of a player he has labelled as not doing that well that actually bucked the trend, and from memory was a bit of a fan of Kane Lambert when he was playing with Northern.Thanks for the kind words Thry - much appreciated - and you are right about Kane Lambert; I was a big fan when he was with the Knights, the Blues and the Seagulls - I can also begrudgingly appreciate him now that he is with the tiggers. Quote Selected
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood Reply #81 – April 24, 2019, 10:59:53 am Josh Fraser's review:Quote7. Matthew KennedyStats: 24 disposals, 13 clearances, four tacklesDisposals: Matty started the game slowly, but to his credit he worked his way into it and had a big impact around stoppages. He continued to play to his strengths and gave us good opportunities with clearance work. He ended up being a solid contributor on the day.13. Liam StockerStats: 20 disposals, nine rebound 50sFrom the coach: We’re seeing growth each week from Stock. He’s learning how to position himself as a defender and learning to play on different types of players. He’s got no issue finding the ball and setting us up: he’s showing exciting signs with his development.16. Darcy LangStats: Eight disposals, three marksFrom the coach: Darcy was in and out of the game: we have to remember he’s still building his minutes. He played more time up forward and on the wing, and he showed glimpses of what he’s capable of: he’ll become more consistent with more footy.21. Jarrod GarlettStats: Seven disposals, three clearancesFrom the coach: He had moments which were important in our front half which came on the back of his pressure. He was unselfish to set up Matt Owies for our first goal, so there was a team element to what he was doing. It’s about consistency with Jarrod: the small forward role can be difficult but we need him to continue applying pressure as we saw in stages on the weekend.26. Harrison MacreadieStats: 17 disposals, six marks, four rebound 50sFrom the coach: I was really impressed with his return to playing football. The preparation both he and the high performance staff have put in is a credit to them, he was able to perform as soon as he came back in. He played on Goldsack and Reid so he had a few different looks there. I was really impressed with his intercept marking in the air and he made good decisions.27. Matthew LobbeStats: 6 disposals, 23 hitouts, One goalFrom the coach: Similar to Andrew Phillips, Matty was a little slow to get going but his leading patterns as a forward were encouraging. Once he found his rhythm in the ruck, he gave our mids a good look at stoppages. We can’t underestimate his role through the leadership he has amongst the group.31. Tom WilliamsonStats: 15 disposals, seven handball receives, five rebound 50sFrom the coach: Similar to Macreadie, ‘Willo’ has done a power of work to get back — from the outset, we were able to see how sharp and clean he was. He’s a genuine competitor and puts himself in the contest. You can see his talent and we’re really excited about him, I was rapt to see him get through.32. Alex FasoloStats: Nine disposals, One goal, Two goal assistsFrom the coach: He was really clever in front half. Not getting massive reward through numbers but he’s giving opposition headaches and set up a number of opportunities, applied good pressure. All about consistency, really pleased with what he’s been able to do from a performance and leadership/culture element34. Andrew PhillipsStats: 11 disposals, four marks (three contested), 30 hitoutsFrom the coach: I thought Flip’s first half was a little slow, he took a while to get back into it and find his rhythm. Once he did, he grew in confidence and took some big marks and gave our midfielders first use. He turned into an important contributor on the day for us.36. Patrick KerrStats: 13 disposals, seven marks, four inside 50s, 3.2From the coach: I liked his game. He presented at the ball all day, showed clean hands and he had a presence in front half, both in the air and through his willingness to work. He ended up with five scoring shots while setting up a couple, and ended up kicking the last goal to give us the lead. I thought his game was really solid.37. Ben SilvagniStats: 13 disposals, four marks, three rebound 50sFrom the coach: Benny keeps getting better. His understanding of his role and our system gets better each week. He showed good composure with ball in hand — we’re happy with development from week-to-week and he will keep getting better with experience.44. Matthew OwiesStats: Six disposals, one goalFrom the coach: He had some exciting moments where he got to the fall of ball really well, and each week he’s getting better. It was a really good moment for him to kick his first goal, which was also our first of the game We need to remember his background, he hasn’t had a lot of exposure to footy — it’s all learning for him.45. Hugh GoddardStats: 18 disposals, eight marks, four spoilsFrom the coach: Hugh was really important for us: he has been since he’s arrived. I can’t remember a time he lost consecutive one on ones: he was able to respond each time. His leadership and stability has been really important, he’s making others - including some younger teammates - better around him.46. Matthew CottrellStats: 10 disposals, four marksFrom the coach: It was a first taste of VFL footy for Matty, who ran good patterns on the wing. His ability to run and endure was pleasing, and he’ll keep finding more of the footy as he gets more comfortable with his role. He executed with ball in hand, and first-up we were pretty happy with his performance. Quote Selected
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood Reply #83 – April 24, 2019, 05:27:40 pm There's a few on there that give us plenty of depth for a change and some, like Williamson, who'll be in the team once their fitness levels and game time are up to scratch. I had high hopes for Garlett given his form in the WAFL before we drafted him with a nothing pick anyway, but he's done absolutely nothing IMHO and doesn't look up to the top level. The comparison with McLean for Kennedy is a good one actually. But we gave up a bit to get them both and Kennedy needs to show a bit more. Similarly, Lang has disappointed so far, albeit with lots of injuries. We seem to have had a habit recently of picking up blokes from other clubs who are continually injured. I still hold out hope that Fasolo can get back into the best 22 as he's very clever around goals and for a small/medium type forward, we don't have many of those. Quote Selected
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood Reply #84 – April 24, 2019, 07:12:05 pm Quote from: WASurfer – on April 24, 2019, 05:27:40 pmThere's a few on there that give us plenty of depth for a change and some, like Williamson, who'll be in the team once their fitness levels and game time are up to scratch. I had high hopes for Garlett given his form in the WAFL before we drafted him with a nothing pick anyway, but he's done absolutely nothing IMHO and doesn't look up to the top level. The comparison with McLean for Kennedy is a good one actually. But we gave up a bit to get them both and Kennedy needs to show a bit more. Similarly, Lang has disappointed so far, albeit with lots of injuries. We seem to have had a habit recently of picking up blokes from other clubs who are continually injured. I still hold out hope that Fasolo can get back into the best 22 as he's very clever around goals and for a small/medium type forward, we don't have many of those.Good reading. Reckon you're spot on, Rider of Waves from the West. Quote Selected
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood Reply #85 – April 24, 2019, 07:12:41 pm Now that the NBs are playing at PP this Saturday, anyone thinking of heading along? Quote Selected
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood Reply #86 – April 24, 2019, 07:14:38 pm What strikes me the most, for the first time in a long time I'm buoyed by the number of key position players we have as depth. Two afl quality rucks (even if not quite up to being the number 1), two good sized promising young key defenders, one that's shown plenty at AFL level, one key forward who looks like he could play at AFL level and has looked comfortable enough (kerr).We didn't have this many bonafide options through most of the noughties combined. At one point our key position players consisted of fevola, Thornton, bower, Jamieson, and no one else of note. Quote Selected
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood Reply #87 – April 24, 2019, 08:29:26 pm Quote from: Thryleon – on April 24, 2019, 07:14:38 pmWhat strikes me the most, for the first time in a long time I'm buoyed by the number of key position players we have as depth. Two afl quality rucks (even if not quite up to being the number 1), two good sized promising young key defenders, one that's shown plenty at AFL level, one key forward who looks like he could play at AFL level and has looked comfortable enough (kerr).We didn't have this many bonafide options through most of the noughties combined. At one point our key position players consisted of fevola, Thornton, bower, Jamieson, and no one else of note.Yes, it is that depth that will determine our fortunes Thry.Having a competitive VFL side with lots of youngsters pressing for AFL selection is a vital step towards the next premiership. Quote Selected
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood Reply #88 – April 24, 2019, 08:33:46 pm Quote from: Thryleon – on April 24, 2019, 07:14:38 pmWhat strikes me the most, for the first time in a long time I'm buoyed by the number of key position players we have as depth. Two afl quality rucks (even if not quite up to being the number 1), two good sized promising young key defenders, one that's shown plenty at AFL level, one key forward who looks like he could play at AFL level and has looked comfortable enough (kerr).We didn't have this many bonafide options through most of the noughties combined. At one point our key position players consisted of fevola, Thornton, bower, Jamieson, and no one else of note.Don't forget O'Hailpin! I can't believe nobody wanted Casboult last offseason. How many other clubs would kill for a key position forward that can take contested marks and support in the ruck right now? Dees, Hawks, Port, Dogs, Norf, GC, and plenty more. Quote Selected
Re: VFL Round 3 NBs vs Collingwood Reply #89 – April 24, 2019, 08:45:51 pm Quote from: jeza – on April 24, 2019, 08:33:46 pmDon't forget O'Hailpin! I can't believe nobody wanted Casboult last offseason. How many other clubs would kill for a key position forward that can take contested marks and support in the ruck right now? Dees, Hawks, Port, Dogs, Norf, GC, and plenty more.Casboult was shopped around. Nobody wanted him! Quote Selected