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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 13: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs

Reply #135
I think that the problem with Fisher, Dow and Samo is that they are usually under enormous pressure.  The emergence of Setterfield should help but we desperately need another inside mid and a mindset focused on looking after teammates with blocks, shepherds and team-oriented stuff generally.

When Ed was moved on to Bontompelli, Liberatore immediately began bumping and blocking Ed, making his task harder and life easier for the Bont.  The last time I saw one of our players do that it was the Chief dealing with Judd’s tagger.

I think so too. Those kids have had to be front and centre of our midfield right from the start and they weren't ready for it. It's enormous pressure for young kids. Can't all be Sam Walsh's unfortunately. That's where being down the bottom doesn't help couldn't get those couple of topline 24-27yos to be the big bodies and take the pressure off the young players. Plenty of depth at both ends of the ground but not yet in the guts. They'll all be good players, be even better players with big bodied help where they can get on the outside and run.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 13: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs

Reply #136
Yep, that's glaring to me too.  There is very rarely any sheparding or blocking by our players.  I don't know why, I would think this would be one of the easiest things to implement, when you give off the ball to a player, help them move forward by blocking your opponent and/or his from going after him!  Really, a no brainer.  Saw that too many times last night where we gave it off then stood there, job done apparently  ::)

I did see a couple of good give and shepherds though.  I con't remember who it was but I'm pretty sure our youngsters were involved.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 13: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs

Reply #137

Didn't notice Deluca in the 2's.
Has he played yet?
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 13: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs

Reply #138
Harry McKay and McGovern had a shocker last night.

Harry is a massive worry in that he has absolutely zero game awareness. When a teammate is running down the ground and is about to be run down and needs a target to kick to Harry just keeps running away from him hoping for a 75m kick over the top. Happened in the last quarter with Dow glaringly and quite a few other times in the one match.

Hopefully he can work his way through it but I don't know how many coaches we employ - but even if you had 1 coach surely this is something you'd be able to fix.

How they dropped SOS and left Gov in the team I'll never know. He has lost form completely now.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 13: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs

Reply #139
Didn't notice Deluca in the 2's.
Has he played yet?

I don't think he has. After the bye I believe. This was written on May 29th :

Deluca suffered a grade one hamstring tear at training last Monday night and won’t be available for selection for at least another week or two. With Carlton having their mid-season bye in Round 14, he might not be in the frame for a senior game in the next month.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/how-midseason-rookie-draft-no-1-pick-josh-deluca-got-a-second-chance-at-carlton/news-story/b0466ca980e1544e0954d22fc32d1f1a

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 13: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs

Reply #140
I must have been watching a different game..be more handy in the twos learning how to kick and hit a target...16 kicks @59% Disposal efficiency including a shocker out on the full at a critical time.
The Dogs wingman in Lipinksi has about 27 @86% plus 2 goals.....not a bad afternoons work for a 20 gamer...
LOB for a pick 10 has a long way to go and is lucky we dont bat deep in the two's, he wont be looking forward to Deluca getting fit either.

Credit where it's due - LOB was much better last night.

He was one of our best in the first half. Died out a little in the second but ran his guts out against his far more experienced opponents (mostly Hunter).

Overall has been much better the last 2 weeks .

Far from perfect but developing nicely and hopefully he can get more of the ball from now on.

(Lipinski is a 3rd year player and would have about 10kg on LOB)

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 13: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs

Reply #141
I don't think he has. After the bye I believe. This was written on May 29th :

Deluca suffered a grade one hamstring tear at training last Monday night and won’t be available for selection for at least another week or two. With Carlton having their mid-season bye in Round 14, he might not be in the frame for a senior game in the next month.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/how-midseason-rookie-draft-no-1-pick-josh-deluca-got-a-second-chance-at-carlton/news-story/b0466ca980e1544e0954d22fc32d1f1a

Thanks Paul
Geez, how's his luck. That must have just about his first training session  :-\
Playing in a higher grade isn't ideal after an injury either
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 13: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs

Reply #142
Credit where it's due - LOB was much better last night.

He was one of our best in the first half. Died out a little in the second but ran his guts out against his far more experienced opponents (mostly Hunter).

Overall has been much better the last 2 weeks .

Far from perfect but developing nicely and hopefully he can get more of the ball from now on.

(Lipinski is a 3rd year player and would have about 10kg on LOB)

LOB is 185cm and 78kg, Pick 10 and has played 26 games, Lipinski is 187cm and 84kg, Pick 28 and has played 21 games....Not a real lot of difference given they run down the wing and dont do stoppage work.
LOB was meant to be a very good kick but continues to butcher the ball, 59% is very poor given he isnt a contested player
and requires other players to give him the ball so he can be the link player with supposed good disposal.
He is very lucky we dont have much in the two's IMO...Pick 10 was way overs given his output and skill level.


Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 13: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs

Reply #144
LOB is 185cm and 78kg, Pick 10 and has played 26 games, Lipinski is 187cm and 84kg, Pick 28 and has played 21 games....Not a real lot of difference given they run down the wing and dont do stoppage work.
LOB was meant to be a very good kick but continues to butcher the ball, 59% is very poor given he isnt a contested player
and requires other players to give him the ball so he can be the link player with supposed good disposal.
He is very lucky we dont have much in the two's IMO...Pick 10 was way overs given his output and skill level.

3rd year vs. 2nd year.

Pick 10 may look overs right now - but as I say you're incredibly harsh on a 19 year old. Just show a tiny bit of patience.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 13: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs

Reply #145
That was Setterfield's best game in a long while. Big positive.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 13: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs

Reply #146
The simple reason why we lost this game is that we had way too many passengers too often.


"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 13: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs

Reply #147
3rd year vs. 2nd year.

Pick 10 may look overs right now - but as I say you're incredibly harsh on a 19 year old. Just show a tiny bit of patience.

(Should see what he says about poor young Ben Silvagni!!)

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 13: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs

Reply #148
(Should see what he says about poor young Ben Silvagni!!)

Thats the poor young Ben who wont chase, cant be bothered putting in much effort and thinks playing senior footy will just happen because Dad's a big wheel
at the club and is doing it so tough...forgive me for calling him out when I should be wearing my Navy Blue glasses and adoring his wonderful work ethic.
You keep monitoring Lachies high percentage of disposal efficiency too ....59%.....if thats high then you are easy to please....


Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 13: Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs

Reply #149
Just watched the replay (second half only) and geeze SPS and Fish were instrumental in getting us back in it with smart ball movement.  No need to worry about them, they’ll be fine.

How good is Cunners? Look forward to seeing him further develop!