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My concern is that Dow, SPS and LOB each seem to have acquired the bad habit (from some players I won't name) of casually running along side the opposition ball carrier to give the impression of applying pressure instead of charging full throttle at that prick like you want to break him in half. For guys with good leg speed they really don't use it enough in defensive situations.

My concern is that Dow, SPS and LOB each seem to have acquired the bad habit (from some players I won't name) of casually running along side the opposition ball carrier to give the impression of applying pressure instead of charging full throttle at that prick like you want to break him in half. For guys with good leg speed they really don't use it enough in defensive situations.

....and not haven't watched any of it, what leads you to single them out???

This has been raised many times by many posters over the years, and one of the issues I have is that by simple inference, one senior coach after another is either blind, corrupt or incompetent, or possibly all three, because there can be no other logical explanation if your observations are correct.

Imagine the coaches box over the last decade - supposedly Murphy and Gibbs lead the way, but no coach (senior, assistant) ever did a thing ? I can see it if we had one coach over the journey, and he was either hopeless or played favourites, but 6 senior coaches have seen Murphy play, and 2 or 3 have seen SPS, Dow and LOB play, but don't notice these bad habits emerging ?

EDIT : in fact Teague was visibly please to have Murphy back in the pre match interview.

Pyke had it right, stick Gibbs in the twos.

Problem of our lack of midfield depth, replacing them. If we had the depth we have forward and back so of them might've seen more twos time.

This has been raised many times by many posters over the years, and one of the issues I have is that by simple inference, one senior coach after another is either blind, corrupt or incompetent, or possibly all three, because there can be no other logical explanation if your observations are correct.

Imagine the coaches box over the last decade - supposedly Murphy and Gibbs lead the way, but no coach (senior, assistant) ever did a thing ? I can see it if we had one coach over the journey, and he was either hopeless or played favourites, but 6 senior coaches have seen Murphy play, and 2 or 3 have seen SPS, Dow and LOB play, but don't notice these bad habits emerging ?

EDIT : in fact Teague was visibly please to have Murphy back in the pre match interview.

Comments from others....that all 3 were worse than pathetic in the first half. That Dow finished with 9 disposals (and whose disposal is arguable the worst in the AFL)....

Need I go on....

Not really. Simple case of no-one to replace them.

With another big body or two in the midfield blokes like Fisher/SPS will be more outside and dangerous.

Couldn’t agree more.

Out of all our kids Dow and Fish get the least criticism.

Have major doubts on Dow. Given a long run in the seniors for sfa improvement. Disposal is poor and just don’t notice him - I guess collecting under 10 touches a game may be a reason.

Drop him for Kennedy. Dow in the 2nds will at least touch it more and get his confidence and hopefully skills up. Then give Kennedy the remainder of the year in the seniors. Needs an extended run for us to see why he has. Must display a reason why we should resign him.

If they are as bad as people on here make out, don't you think that 13,14,15 years would be enough time to find replacements ? I imagine this would be something marked "urgent" with indelible ink.