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Re: Tayla Harris immortalised

Reply #15 –
Don’t have a problem at all with the statue and the symbolism of but I think that it could have been held back until the heat is right out of the discussion. It would have been like creating the Nicky Winmar statue 6 months after his controversial stand. This would have been a lot more appropriate as a 10 year anniversary symbol after AFLW was well and truly entrenched.  Just a bit too early.

Re: Tayla Harris immortalised

Reply #16 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
Don’t have a problem at all with the statue and the symbolism of but I think that it could have been held back until the heat is right out of the discussion. It would have been like creating the Nicky Winmar statue 6 months after his controversial stand. This would have been a lot more appropriate as a 10 year anniversary symbol after AFLW was well and truly entrenched.  Just a bit too early.

Too early? You want to wait until the whole thing has died down and people have forgotten about it?

Strike while the iron is hot.

This is about change, and highlighting that, again, continues to push for change and build on the momentum that this whole incident started.

Its an iconic image that is full of momentum and should be used to further that momentum.

Waiting simply dilutes the cause.

Re: Tayla Harris immortalised

Reply #17 –
People need to stop thinking of this as a women's issue and start connecting it to trolling and online bullying.

It's not about women.  It's about teaching youth resilience and to drown out internet bullying.

It's much more relevant than any discussion about females in sport.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Tayla Harris immortalised

Reply #18 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Too early? You want to wait until the whole thing has died down and people have forgotten about it?

Strike while the iron is hot.

This is about change, and highlighting that, again, continues to push for change and build on the momentum that this whole incident started.

Its an iconic image that is full of momentum and should be used to further that momentum.

Waiting simply dilutes the cause.

Absolutely!

It may expose some apologists for the farkwits who trolled Tayla but the backlash is insignificant as we progress to the point where our sisters, daughters and granddaughters don’t have to put up with this garbage.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: Tayla Harris immortalised

Reply #19 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
People need to stop thinking of this as a women's issue and start connecting it to trolling and online bullying.

It's not about women.  It's about teaching youth resilience and to drown out internet bullying.

It's much more relevant than any discussion about females in sport.

Sorry Thry but it is definitely a women’s issue.

Of course trolling and online bullying is part of it, but the crux of the matter is the sexual objectification of a female athlete ... and that is not acceptable. 
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: Tayla Harris immortalised

Reply #20 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
People need to stop thinking of this as a women's issue and start connecting it to trolling and online bullying.

It's not about women.  It's about teaching youth resilience and to drown out internet bullying.

It's much more relevant than any discussion about females in sport.

Disagree.

It is certainly about online trolling, but also about women.
What were the comments about?
All the comments were sexist and/or misogynistic.

Had the photo been of Tayla taking a mark received the same hate, fair enough i'd agree with you. But no, the photo was of her with her legs spread apart in the act of kicking. That was what brought the trolls out. That is what the trolls were commenting about.

Its not either/or, its both.

 

Re: Tayla Harris immortalised

Reply #21 –
Negative comments from insecure blokes stuck in the caveman era and intimidated by powerful women.
No surprise this whole movement has gone right over their heads.
Most if not all are the same dopes who flood every thread regarding women’s footy with the same old negative rubbish.

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Reply #22 –
Quote from: LoveNavy – on
Tayla represented by the statue speaks of a woman who speaks out.
Tayla's actions propelled by public support is a contemporary example of leadership. Leadership that enables social change.
Football in this instance is merely the occasion from which this emerged.

Well done Tayla.

Yes. Great stuff.

Well done indeed Tayla.
I spent most of my money on Women and grog.
The rest I just wasted.

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Reply #23 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Sorry Thry but it is definitely a women’s issue.

Of course trolling and online bullying is part of it, but the crux of the matter is the sexual objectification of a female athlete ... and that is not acceptable.

Maybe I should have written, its not just about women.

Sexual obejctification....  Everyone objectifies people.  We are praising Tayla and objectifying her by making an object about her struggle.  By dumbing it down to sexualisation, we are ignoring much more prevalent issues of online bullying and trolling.  Tayla is an attractive young lady.  Why shouldnt people be enamoured by her?

Are we trying to create a generation of eunuchs?
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #24 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Are we trying to create a generation of eunuchs?

My barber is gay he says exactly the same thing, he thinks the debate has been somewhat politicised by the I, A and P in LGBTIQAP!

He thinks we should all celebrate being ourselves and not celebrate being different, he sees the celebration of diversity as celebrating exclusion not inclusion! Lots of little people in their little groups! He thinks the actions are contradictory to how most people feel about these issues! Finally he makes a good point, our first membership is humanity all the rest is an extra!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Tayla Harris immortalised

Reply #25 –
Quote from: LoveNavy – on
Tayla represented by the statue speaks of a woman who speaks out.
Tayla's actions propelled by public support is a contemporary example of leadership. Leadership that enables social change.
Football in this instance is merely the occasion from which this emerged.

Well done Tayla.

Gee that's beautifully articulated. Well said, LN.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #26 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Absolutely!

It may expose some apologists for the farkwits who trolled Tayla but the backlash is insignificant as we progress to the point where our sisters, daughters and granddaughters don’t have to put up with this garbage.

Well said, David.

There is still a hue and cry from a loud group of Neanderthals as if to punctuate how important this issue is, and how important it is for us to be loud in our condemnation of the sexual objectification of women (indeed, anyone). Seems there are still many who are pubescent in their understanding and expression of human sexuality, particularly feminine sexuality.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #27 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Gee that's beautifully articulated. Well said, LN.

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Re: Tayla Harris immortalised

Reply #28 –
Say it to her face ;) ;D

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/boxing/harris-becomes-national-champ-with-savage-ko/ar-AAIZPEm?ocid=spartandhp
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AFLW star Tayla Harris says she's open to an international boxing career after scoring a bruising second round knockout of kickboxing star Margarite Butcher to claim the Australian Female Middleweight Title.
The bout was scheduled to go eight rounds but the Carlton star barely needed two after connecting with a quick flurry of counter punches to drop Butcher moments into the second.