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Re: Formula 1

Reply #270 –
Quote from: LP – on
If you ever want to see how politics and finances can b0rk up sport, watch the last 10 laps of the Italian GP!

You'll be Gobsmacked at the McLaren decisions.

Piastri is being treated like a placeholder for a Norris world title.

Actually it started in Quali, when Piastri was ordered to give Norris a tow that let Norris qualify ahead of Piastri on the grid, and it ended late in the race when Piastri was told to give Norris 2nd place.

All this happening while Piastri sits points clear at the top of the drivers table, and the 3rd placed Verstappen winning the race?

McLaren basically dealt Max back into the contest, was this to stop Lando turning sook?
I have never been so disgusted watching F1 in my life. Dirty, rotten, stinking elitist Poms farking over the Convict so Prince Golden Balls can bridge his point gap. If Norris had an ounce of decency, he would have told his team to GAGFed and said "I wont be gifted anything, I'll race for my wins and points". Instead the prat happily took the gift.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: Formula 1

Reply #271 –
Bit sad about what is happening to Piastri, but with Webber as his manager he is well he situated to navigate the disappointment, Webber has been there done that.

By the standards of F1 he had the corner, sure his front left locked but he didn't lose steering or control of the car, he was decelerating and taking the apex before the opponent runed into him. It's no different to driving over the ripple strip that they do a thousand times a race. The 10s penalty was a bit steep when you consider what Norris did to Piastri without penalty just a race or two back, politics again? :o

Nobody stated F1 has to be fair, it's a sport governed by dollars not morality, in this regard Australia will always find itself at the back of the queue. Not just Australia or course, have a look at what is happening to Lawson relative to Tsundo, RBR replaced Lawson with Tsundo who promptly took the car backwards through the grid at light speed, yet it somehow seems it is still Lawson's fault. A lowly New Zealander, even worse than an Aussie!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Formula 1

Reply #272 –
It was going to be harsh no matter which way the stars went with it.

Had oscar qualified better, he wouldn't have been so desperate to make the move when he did, not that it was desperate, but he was on the edge and ultimately just over it with the lockup.

Re: Formula 1

Reply #273 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
It was going to be harsh no matter which way the stars went with it.

Had oscar qualified better, he wouldn't have been so desperate to make the move when he did, not that it was desperate, but he was on the edge and ultimately just over it with the lockup.
Yes, but why would stewards penalise this now, they haven't applied such a penalty to a racing incident all season.

I understand when the stewards apply penalties to people crossing the line or making dangerous moves, but actually in this case they were all still on what is legally deemed the track and nobody really broke any rules, you could equally argue Antonelli failed to leave a car width. All season this type of event has been deemed a racing incident.

Is what happened between Piastri and Antonelli any more than what Norris did to Piastri, it's just luck nobody was on the other side of Piastri a couple of weeks back?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Formula 1

Reply #274 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: kruddler – on
It was going to be harsh no matter which way the stars went with it.

Had oscar qualified better, he wouldn't have been so desperate to make the move when he did, not that it was desperate, but he was on the edge and ultimately just over it with the lockup.
Yes, but why would stewards penalise this now, they haven't applied such a penalty to a racing incident all season.

I understand when the stewards apply penalties to people crossing the line or making dangerous moves, but actually in this case they were all still on what is legally deemed the track and nobody really broke any rules, you could equally argue Antonelli failed to leave a car width. All season this type of event has been deemed a racing incident.

Is what happened between Piastri and Antonelli any more than what Norris did to Piastri, it's just luck nobody was on the other side of Piastri a couple of weeks back?

Did Piastri take/make the corner while having his car under control?
The lockup means "no". So he took out another car (who took out leclerc) and he copped a penalty for it.

Plenty of similar incidents have been penalised.
Plenty have been let go.
If he doesn't lock up, he doesn't get a penalty.

By the rules its right, harsh, but right.
 

Re: Formula 1

Reply #275 –
Interestingly post race Leclerc who was the big victim of the incident come out and slammed the stewards saying they were completely wrong to penalise Piastri, he stated Antonelli contributed to the collision by turning in on Piastri.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Formula 1

Reply #276 –
Quote from: LP – on
Interestingly post race Leclerc who was the big victim of the incident come out and slammed the stewards saying they were completely wrong to penalise Piastri, he stated Antonelli contributed to the collision by turning in on Piastri.

Which is all true.

There was no 100% right call to make. They made one and copped it. Had they made the other, they wouldve copped it too

Re: Formula 1

Reply #277 –
You want to see a bum call, have a look at Man City vs Liverpool and the goal deemed offside by Liverpool by the officials.  A player in an attacking position not interfering with the play is technically not counted as offside.

Admittedly, you only aren't interfering with play if you aren't on the field, but the consensus is that this goal should have stood and it didn't.  The goal was not impacted by the player getting out of the way.

No matter what happens inconsistencies will always follow a sport, where a judgement call needs to be made, and all you can do is respect the person making the decision even if you disagree with it, and they are wrong. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson