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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #510 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Good on you Gladys, you allowed those cruise ship passengers to run amok/infect half the country and now you might want to decide on who lives and who might suffer or die.

She is an idiot.   And a dangerous one.   Covering for her lousy incompetent health minister was the last straw.   

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #511 –
Quote from: capcom – on
She is an idiot.   And a dangerous one.   Covering for her lousy incompetent health minister was the last straw.   

Its crossed my mind that NSW health allowed those passengers to disembark so that the infection would spread thereby facilitating herd immunity.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #512 –
Interesting to see the "dob in" lines are swamped with people eager to call the authorities on those that flaunt the rules and place others at risk. 

The BEST news was one a-hole who bought 5400 toilet rolls and then tried to flog them off on ebay and gumtree and was outlawed by both sites.  Next move was to take them back to their source for a refund.  Nup, came up with a blank.

There is a God out there :))

 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #513 –
Quote from: capcom – on
Interesting to see the "dob in" lines are swamped with people eager to call the authorities on those that flaunt the rules and place others at risk. 

The BEST news was one a-hole who bought 5400 toilet rolls and then tried to flog them off on ebay and gumtree and was outlawed by both sites.  Next move was to take them back to their source for a refund.  Nup, came up with a blank.

There is a God out there :))

 
Next are the kents selling hand sanitiser for $40 for a 500ml bottle. I know a guy selling it for this amount, he get get enough. People are desperate, I would rather get crook than pay the kent that.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership
 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #514 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Next are the kents selling hand sanitiser for $40 for a 500ml bottle. I know a guy selling it for this amount, he get get enough. People are desperate, I would rather get crook than pay the kent that.
Try Catch of the day and a site called nourished life that has a 70% alcohol version at decent prices, Coles had masks and small bottles of dettol sanitiser for sale at the checkout today.
Idiots are still hording though, freezer food still limited to one item in many cases, could only get one box of chopped spinach and one bag of diced frozen onions. Stir Fry vegies all gone. The fresh vegies had been ransacked and were in short supply, ordered some vegies online via Jims fresh and they were ok quality but in many cases over priced. Its a funny world with petrol so cheap and food so expensive.
Govt have stuffed up with that $1500 handout to workers as well, a lot of very casual workers have had their wages doubled or trebled and a lot of deserving casuals who fell short on the 12 months get SweetFA. One friends daughter fell short by three days and was rejected and another kid we know has gone from earning $350 a fortnight to $1500 a fortnight...he thinks its great.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #515 –
They're ramping up testing, so watch the spin on the numbers growth as hundreds of previously untested health workers start to test positive!

Stay home!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #516 –
Well, there may be a god.

It's obvious here on the Island that plenty of folks have not only come down to their holiday homes but invited friends and so on... just heard from a friend at the local IGA that plenty of these folks were taking their cr@p to the local tip... guess where Mr Plod and his mates were hiding - if you weren't a local and you were dumping stuff at the tip... $1600 fine. Apparently they were handing them out like Easter eggs. Expensive holiday on the Island.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #517 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Well, there may be a god.

It's obvious here on the Island that plenty of folks have not only come down to their holiday homes but invited friends and so on... just heard from a friend at the local IGA that plenty of these folks were taking their cr@p to the local tip... guess where Mr Plod and his mates were hiding - if you weren't a local and you were dumping stuff at the tip... $1600 fine. Apparently they were handing them out like Easter eggs. Expensive holiday on the Island.
Fargum
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #518 –
Should have been a checkpoint on the bridge. 
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #519 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Should have been a checkpoint on the bridge. 

Agree. There were a few who just flagrantly disregarded the social distancing stuff but I must say that most visitors did keep to themselves and didn't create any disturbances like usual. Quietest Easter on the Island for many a long year. We have 3 Airbnb's near us and all 3 were empty.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #520 –
"As the data from the first epidemic wave of COVID-19 mature, knowledge of relative and absolute risks for different age groups and for people with different co-morbidities are instrumental for carefully choosing next steps. Aggressive measures such as lockdowns have been implemented in many countries. This is a fully justified “better safe than sorry” approach in the absence of good data. However, long-term lockdowns may have major adverse consequences for health (suicides, worsening mental health, cardiovascular disease, loss of health insurance from unemployment, etc.) and society at large.29 It is even argued that lockdowns may be even harmful as a response to COVID-19 itself, if they broaden rather than flatten the epidemic curve.30 Information from large scale testing and seroprevalence studies should soon give us a more clear picture about the true frequency of infections and thus more accurate assessments of the overall infection fatality rate. Data from Iceland suggest that almost all infections are either asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic and thus do not come to medical attention. 31 These data also suggest that the infection fatality rate may be close to that of seasonal flu (0.1%) rather than much higher earlier estimates. If larger scale studies further document that the infection is very common and infection fatality rate is modest across the general population, the finding of very low risk in the vast majority of the general population has major implications for strategic next steps in managing the COVID-19 pandemic. Tailored measures that maintain social life and the economy functional to avoid potentially even deaths from socioeconomic disruption plus effective protection of select high-risk individuals may be a sensible option."

Stanford professor of medicine John Ioannidis concludes in a new study that the risk of death from Covid19 for people under 65 years of age, even in global „hotspots“, is equivalent to the risk of a fatal car accident for daily commuters driving between 9 and 400 miles.

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.05.20054361v1.full.pdf

 

 
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #521 –
Notwithstanding the fact that the article is 4 weeks old (which makes a difference in a fast changing situation like this), it seems a rather odd position to be taking, for someone so learned. He doesn't propose any alternatives to the supposedly "draconian" measures currently in force (which are not all that draconian in my view, just some temporary and precautionary common sense). He simply repeats what we already know - i.e the testing is inadequate, we don't really know what the future holds, there could be some negative mental health outcomes because of the current measures etc. The world has been caught on the hop because we ignored the warnings of infectious disease experts, going back several years, that a pandemic like this was a certainty, and simply a case of when, not if. As a consequence, we were hopelessly unprepared, and hopelessly under resourced.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #522 –
There is money to be made in these circumstances, just like there is money to be made denying climate change or boosting clean coal, COVID-19 is just another profit making opportunity for many people.

As such many of the repeated opinions appear to be attempts at raising a researcher's profile, not really about some radical new insight into the problem, the tell is that no solutions get offered. It's no accident China and the USA are slamming the lid on research funding, as the pandemic is being gamed by many.

Even so, "What is the problem?" is still a question worth asking, but I think the underlying context that articles like this are being referenced in remains a bit disrespectful for the general population. It's the sort of rubbish The Donald would promote while having a private ICU towed around behind him! It reads as, "So a few will die, but not me so it's no big deal!"
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #523 –
I find myself agreeing with both the article that FB77 posted and what Pauly posted.

To be dangerously personal!!!... when Stage 3 was announced and all that it meant, and without a time frame, I found my PTSD and Panic Disorder (a nasty member of the anxiety disorder group) stuff fully triggered. This meant, in blunt terms I was a mess and needed medication and full on help. This lasted about 2 weeks. If I didn't work in the industry that I do, and understand my options re resources/strategies/support, the downward spiral could easily have been life threatening... or I could have self-medicated or taken it out on others. I know that may sound dramatic to some, but all I am doing is stating a fact. I was not far from admitting myself to the Albert Road Clinic for my own safety... Mrs Baggers was fully aware of my predicament and ready to assist. I am in regular touch with my Psychiatrist buddy at the Albert Road Clinic and am seeing (well, Skyping) a military trained psychologist (who fully understands PTSD and PD caused by military experience) with expenses met by Veterans Affairs. But what about the thousands of other men and women (non military/every day folk) with similar disorders (a whole lot more common than many think - including depressive illnesses) but without knowing their resources or how to access them or refusing to admit the problem... or to even understand what is happening to them? What does this have the potential of doing to them? What is happening, silently, behind closed doors in hundreds, maybe thousands of homes in Oz... not to mention, globally. I am talking about the spectrum from self harm / abuse to the harm and abuse of others (particularly family members) and other resultant psychological issues.

So, there is much truth in the article published by FB77... but... what Pauly posted, especially the line of wisdom... 'The world has been caught on the hop because we ignored the warnings of infectious disease experts, going back several years, that a pandemic like this was a certainty, and simply a case of when, not if. As a consequence, we were hopelessly unprepared, and hopelessly under resourced.' This is laceratingly accurate and true... and an indictment on so many (so-called) leaders. Hopefully huge resources will be ploughed into relentless research and more fckn hospital beds so WHEN the next pandemic arrives, we are well resourced and prepared to deal with ALL the resultant illnesses AND ensuring the economic operation of the nation is minimally impacted!!!
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #524 –
Hang in there Shano. Good to see that you can manage your condition with appropriate knowledge, resources etc. There has been some improvement in recent times wrt public awareness of mental health, but we still have a long way to go IMO.