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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #1830 –
Germany, France and Italy are having just as much trouble.  Their fast arriving winter spells very bad figures.  2021 won't change a thing.  
 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #1833 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
And one more :
I've never had a problem with the correct use of masks, but the vast majority of people ignore the correct part!

I see disposable masks, re-used over and over again, unwashed and unsterilised, stored in a pocket next to the wearers long suffering handkerchief which is also a very rarely rejuventated item! Then the mask comes on, goes off, sits in the cars centre console, drivers side-pocket, the wearers desk or flops around on the end of a hooked little finger like a set of prayer beads or failing in it's function as a gob closing elastic chin brace!

Then of course they pull the mask down, utter some pleasantry to a cashier, and strike all the buttons on the pin pad of the EFTPOS machine because dirty cash is banned!

Just assume those strangers are wearing a virtual mobile virus garden on their face, and you'll be much more cognisant of keeping your safe distance!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #1834 –
Quote from: LP – on
I've never had a problem with the correct use of masks, but the vast majority of people ignore the correct part!

I see disposable masks, re-used over and over again, unwashed and unsterilised, stored in a pocket next to the wearers long suffering handkerchief which is also a very rarely rejuventated item! Then the mask comes on, goes off, sits in the cars centre console, drivers side-pocket, the wearers desk or flops around on the end of a hooked little finger like a set of prayer beads or failing in it's function as a gob closing elastic chin brace!

Then of course they pull the mask down, utter some pleasantry to a cashier, and strike all the buttons on the pin pad of the EFTPOS machine because dirty cash is banned!

Just assume those strangers are wearing a virtual mobile virus garden on their face, and you'll be much more cognisant of keeping your safe distance!
Yep..the disposables are good for 20-30mins and then should be changed like medical staff do. They build up with moisture and trap more bacteria than they prevent getting through. Everyone fiddles with them as well by hand transferring more rubbish onto the mask as people keep readjusting them. You see it everywhere that people hang them in cars off the mirror or on the dashboard to get the sun and dry out but they should be replaced.
I get it though why people dont as I was in Coles and they wanted $45 for a box of 50 x disposables, thats big money for someone struggling, for something that ends up in the bin..

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #1835 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
I get it though why people dont as I was in Coles and they wanted $45 for a box of 50 x disposables, thats big money for someone struggling, for something that ends up in the bin..
Yep, crazy price gouging the Feds did stuff all about it.

The basic ones cost about 3c each to make, a machine knocks out about 10000 per hour, ~ 3 masks every second. They should/can be packaged and sold in bulk to end users for about 10c each and still make a tidy profit, that's a machine line earning $1000/hr and these things have been running 24x7 for nearly 6 months! For a single line at 65% duty cycle that's $2.85M/6mnths with a direct cost overhead of about $0.8M/6mnths. ( btw., The Feds sent in the army to offer free help/staffing to improve manufacturing productivity at local factories, the industry thinks they might be achieving or exceeding 85% duty cycle at an even lower unit cost. )

But the public buy them for about $1 a piece at best, most of that cash going to the middleman/retailer not the manufacturer, at the moment 100% of what we make locally is sold, so a single manufacturing line makes the middlemen/retailers about $25M in the same 6 Mnth period!

You can spray them with pure alcohol and then sterilise them in an oven, 85°C - 90°C for > 45mins, but that adds to the cost of the mask. It's only practical because the public are forced to pay a $1 each!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #1836 –
https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/

All this BS is just the AGW rubbish ramped up a few notches...same game plan.

PCR testing. Joke. Abject bloody joke. Not fit for purpose. Not even close.

But great for the politicians who can tweak things as they see fit.

https://swprs.org/the-trouble-with-pcr-tests/

Plenty of good reading on that site by the way.

For what other 'illness' have we ever tested symptom less people.....

Next, the fraud that is asymptomatic transmission.....

Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #1837 –
I'm not quite sure why you have this never-say-die obsession with debunking covid..........anyway, carry on.

The two articles I read on the The Swiss Policy Research site have no authors, and the site is run anonymously. It's not really a good start.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #1838 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
Plenty of good reading on that site by the way.
Nobody stated fiction can't be a good read! ;)

Quote from: PaulP – on
I'm not quite sure why you have this never-say-die obsession with debunking covid..........anyway, carry on.
 Yes, funny as hell.

It's like a monkey throwing crap, runs out of crap and goes and picks up the crap it's already thrown to throw it again to prove it's crap is infinite! ;D

The other day I saw a graph posted on FB, showed US COVID deaths relative to other causes of death like traffic or cancer as queues of people getting into heaven. Of course all the queues were full except the COVID queue that was empty, except to date there have been about 30000 road deaths in the US, versus about 320000 COVID deaths! Fancy trying to convince people by faking data that is already available publicly, it's like pointing at a red house and calling it black!

Geez their fecking morons! ;D
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #1839 –
Yep,  the rank hypocrisy from Gladys and her lot make me nauseous.

Same quarantine mistakes as Victoria.  Crickets.
Same failure to jump on it early and shut it down.
Why was Hume open to traffic when borders supposedly closed?
Same patchy response.
Complacent community compliance.
Won't enforce masks.
Bitch about border closures when the only sure fire method to prevent transmission is to not allow outsiders to bring it in.

Thanks Gladys.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #1840 –
Gladys' lack of action is making Nero the Fiddler look like a hyperactive obsessive compulsive!

She is sailing so close to tragedy for the chance of a political victory, but if it goes wrong it's going to screw the whole country. At least this time she has some Fed support, rather than washing their hands of things they are actually trying to help! But I doubt their heart is pure, they go the political leverage as well!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #1841 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
I'm not quite sure why you have this never-say-die obsession with debunking covid..........anyway, carry on.

The two articles I read on the The Swiss Policy Research site have no authors, and the site is run anonymously. It's not really a good start.

You can’t debunk something that’s fact  ::)

Meanwhile, the long term impacts of COVID are becoming clearer:

Quote
The first Australian study looking at the long-term impacts COVID-19 has published interim results.
It found 40 per cent of the people in the study had persistent symptoms two months after infection.
The most common lingering symptoms were fatigue, shortness of breath, coughing and tightness in the chest


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-23/long-term-effects-of-covid-study-in-medical-journal/13007498?utm_source=abc_news_web&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_content=link&utm_campaign=abc_news_web

Of course, conspiracy theorists will claim that this study can’t be trusted because it’s reported on the ABC  ;)
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #1842 –
Interesting that the Feds knocked back Dan’s request for ADF personnel to help with border control because they might be needed somewhere else  ::)
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #1843 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Interesting that the Feds knocked back Dan’s request for ADF personnel to help with border control because they might be needed somewhere else  ::)
It's very petty behaviour, like we offered last time and you didn't want it so now it's gone.

I don't understand the political roll of the dice in this instance, the win is trivial for many in the bigger longer picture, but the potential immediate loss is catastrophic for some!

Gladys may well celebrate single digit cases in the coming days, but only because Gladys has by negligence allowed to exportation of the infected to interstate quarantines, so the risk and cost is the burden of some other state. I do not get the media silence on this issue, maybe because most of it is headquartered in NSW!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #1844 –
@LP
The Feds are opposed to border closures - remember Scotty from marketing’s initial support for Clive Palmer’s court action against the WA Government.  It’s not good for business even if it may stop the spread of the virus.

Teflon Gladys indeed!
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!