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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4605 –
Quote from: Mav – on
It’ll be interesting to read a history of Covid vaccines, but we’ll have to wait a few years for that so the dust can settle.

There was a news story about concerns that Moderna might have a problem with myocarditis. It’s interesting there have been no concerns over Pfizer.
None reported by the media is not the same as none, but like AZ the risk is very very low.

I looked into this a few weeks back, I haven't seen recent figures but a month or two back in Australia we had effectively just as many serious vaccine side-effect ICU cases for Pfizer as we had for AZ. The Pfizer cases were almost all myocarditis related with one or two related to clots, the AZ cases were all related to clots.

Apparently this is better than normal for any vaccine, if they were all given in such numbers in such a short time frame we'd find the same or worse for Influenza, Measles, even Tetanus shots.

I didn't know this until a few weeks back but apparently issuing Tetanus shots are already limited in some way to avoid serious side-effects.

There is so much reporting now it's becoming harder and harder to find specific items, but if you are lucky and give it a try you'll find these figures somewhere in official reports a month or so back.

PS; There is a clear differential appearing between the effects of 1st and 2nd shots. For AZ if you have no bad reaction to the 1st shot your effectively clear for the 2nd shot with hardly any 2nd shot AZ reactions appearing. The exact opposite appears to apply for Pfizer, for Pfizer the 1st shot has less reactions than the 2nd shot, with more serious side-effects coming from the 2nd shot. The effect / differential is so strong that some scientists think we should be cross vaccinating.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4607 –
Wouldn’t it be amusing if heroin or speed addicts are among the Anti-Vaxxers?
 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4608 –
Quote from: Mav – on
Wouldn’t it be amusing if heroin or speed addicts are among the Anti-Vaxxers?

Experimenting with recreational drugs is fine… according to some 🤪
Let’s go BIG !

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4609 –
Quote from: northernblue – on
I’m off for my 2nd AZ this arvo, if I don’t come back tell Teaguey I love him…
🤣

I had mine the other day.  The worst part about the first shot was taking off the bandaid.  They didn't put a bandaid on after the second one...Good luck, NB.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4610 –
Come to think of it, the Opiod epidemic is a big thing in the Deep South States that are havens for the Anti-Vaxxers. I can just imagine them munching on Oxycodone while sharing vaccine conspiracy stories. And then there are those who are happy to swallow horse dewormer but won’t take the vaccine.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4611 –
Quote from: Mav – on
Come to think of it, the Opiod epidemic is a big thing in the Deep South States that are havens for the Anti-Vaxxers. I can just imagine them munching on Oxycodone while sharing vaccine conspiracy stories. And then there are those who are happy to swallow horse dewormer but won’t take the vaccine.

I suspect there’s a cause and effect between the drug use and drug rejection amongst the addled…
Let’s go BIG !

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4612 –
Quote from: Mav – on
And then there are those who are happy to swallow horse dewormer but won’t take the vaccine.
You don't have to swallow.

Cheap as Chips from the local Feed Store, comes in a giant syringe with a long rubber tube you can attach, can be absorbed several ways so there are several administering options! ;D

On a more serious note, that little rise in NSW is a bit of a worry, the number has ever so slightly gone in the wrong direction a few days after a weekend of protests and escapees. If NSW can keep it stable they have done well, but it could be on the rise again by the weekend.

Last weeks prediction was possibly 2000 NSW cases a day by the end of this week, there are some on the NSW health side questioning the figures as possibly under-reporting, but I think they look legit if not perhaps a bit delayed, especially given the regional spread now you might find the numbers are lagging.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4613 –
Quote from: LP – on
You don't have to swallow.

Cheap as Chips from the local Feed Store, comes in a giant syringe with a long rubber tube you can attach, can be absorbed several ways so there are several administering options! ;D

On a more serious note, that little rise in NSW is a bit of a worry, the number has ever so slightly gone in the wrong direction a few days after a weekend of protests and escapees. If NSW can keep it stable they have done well, but it could be on the rise again by the weekend.

Last weeks prediction was possibly 2000 NSW cases a day by the end of this week, there are some on the NSW health side questioning the figures as possibly under-reporting, but I think they look legit if not perhaps a bit delayed, especially given the regional spread now you might find the numbers are lagging.
Apparently found in Merimbula waste water and MP there rightly saying it’s very bad!

Merimbula you’d think have a big elderly population - this is not great 😞

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4615 –
It won't happen overnight, Krud, but it will happen!

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Reply #4617 –
In seriousness, my brother and SIL had no issues after their first Pfizer.  After the second, my brother got some severe headaches and had to be driven home - lasted maybe 24 hours, SIL had no issues.

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Reply #4619 –
I had a very sore arm after my second Pfizer but that was it.  Partner had a headache for a few days but nothing major.