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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7155 –
Great 10 minute explanation from Feynman on the scientific method, and also how dodgy hypothesis works.
Feynman on Scientific Method. - YouTube
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7156 –
Covid deaths on the way up in 2022 in Aus.17% increase and that's on the light side imho given death notices are being manipulated to not include CoVid as the underlying cause yet hospital staff are clearly seeing the evidence.
An increase in Cardiac related deaths linked to CoVid as well with reasons not clear.
Maybe 2022 is just a bad year but I'd be concerned in 2023 if this trend continues and it's obvious hospitals are still running CoVid preventive methods for a reason unlike out in the public .

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7157 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Maybe 2022 is just a bad year but I'd be concerned in 2023 if this trend continues and it's obvious hospitals are still running CoVid preventive methods for a reason unlike out in the public .
Certainly I think the safer path is to remain sceptical, minimise exposing yourself to risk without going overboard, assume a lot of the current decision making is politically based and not based on science.

In the lead up to elections the politicians have taken control again, and things are changing, but the official health message hasn't really change much at all.

As an aside, I know two people extremely crook with COVID at the moment, it's not fun and not trivial like a seasonal cold. Under the current rules they would be free to go about public life, but fortunately they are able to isolate responsibly, but many won't and like yourself I think that attitiude doesn't bode well for Autumn / Winter 2023! My GP reckons booster time should be Jan / Feb next year, and to expect a surge in cases April / May.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7158 –
Just towards the last 3 days of my 2 week stint to Hawaii.

Covid not even rating a mention here, very few wearing masks.

I haven't bothered with mask wearing. 

Has been great.  Average temperatures between 20 and 28 all day.  Seen it rain twice sporadically.

Coming home with a tan.  I understand why the Americans are the most obese nation on the planet.  They're portions are ridiculous.

This has been the most expensive holiday I've ever been on given the disparity between Aussie and USA dollar. 

Covid doesn't get any news coverage here either.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

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There could hardly be a more damning illustration of Australia’s double standards on COVID-19. On Friday night, Matthew Wade, wicketkeeper for the host nation at the T20 World Cup, is competing against England in Melbourne despite having tested positive for the virus.

In the meantime, Novak Djokovic, still scarred by his deportation at the whim of a government desperate to demonise the unvaccinated, languishes in confusion as to whether he will even be allowed into the country to chase his 10th Australian Open title.

The inconsistency of the rules is enough to make you scream.

We saw as much at this year’s Commonwealth Games in Birmingham, where, after 10 days of fervent mask-wearing and bubble-forming befitting Australia’s perception of England as a plague zone, the green-and-gold fielded Tahlia McGrath for the women’s T20 final regardless of the fact she was COVID-positive.

Somehow, it perfectly encapsulated the hypocrisy that has defined much of Australia’s hard-line pandemic response. If there is a piece of dutiful COVID theatre to perform, its athletes are first in the queue. But if there is a match to be won, all protocols go out of the window.

In one sense, the relaxations are to be welcomed. But in another, they expose the absurdity of what is still happening to Djokovic. The Serb remains scarred by his ordeal last winter, where he was incarcerated in a glorified Melbourne detention centre, then finally thrown out of Australia after the immigration minister ruled he could be a lightning rod for anti-vaxxers. It was, as the Australian Lawyers’ Alliance put it, an “Orwellian” decision that punished Djokovic more for the way he thought than the way he acted.



2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #7160 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on


Laughable.
Wade shouldnt be playing, until well.
The tennis clown was in a different time and was rightly tossed out of the country AT THE TIME.
Today however he should probably be allowed in... if hes covid free.
Let’s go BIG !
 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7161 –
These big corporations must be so dependant on the general public having little of no long term memory.

I notice Pfizer and Moderna are now promoting the benefits of bivalent boosters, these are basically a blend of two or more distinct vaccines that work a little differently against different strains. makes sense.

But go back 6 or 12 months, and Pfizer was basically kyboshing claims from Astrazeneca that such an approach was most likely to deliver the best result, they(Pfizer) actually argued against cross vaccination, and now they have squashed the opposition they are basically promoting cross vaccination. None of you should be surprised by this, lawyers and executives are running the show not health professionals!

Luckily for many Aussies, local GPs and Specialists were on the ball and actively pursued the cross vaccination strategy in advance. Those of you who were recipients of such strategies should be very happy, it looks like the protection you received was at least 2 or 3 fold better, at least in the short term.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7162 –
We should all be concerned about the COVID related riots breaking out in China overnight, not because it's overdue but because the Chinese politicians have a history of distracting the public with a political / military conflict.

I'd be ultra-nervous if I was in Taiwan at the moment, I suspect it's the distraction Xi Jinping will be looking for!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #7163 –
800 or so Australians have died of COVID in the last 7 weeks.  It's fashionable to pot Dan and all things government ATM, but after having a family member go very close recently thank f### for our public health system is there.  It ain't perfect and it perennially struggles but it does help people.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #7164 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
800 or so Australians have died of COVID in the last 7 weeks.  It's fashionable to pot Dan and all things government ATM, but after having a family member go very close recently thank f### for our public health system is there.  It ain't perfect and it perennially struggles but it does help people.
Glad to hear your family member got through it, it's so far from over it's not funny.

It sort of poses a glaring question doesn't it, .................... What is freedom?
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7165 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
800 or so Australians have died of COVID in the last 7 weeks.  It's fashionable to pot Dan and all things government ATM, but after having a family member go very close recently thank f### for our public health system is there.  It ain't perfect and it perennially struggles but it does help people.
Problem is the health system is near collapse and even to the point wannabe Nurses are going to be getting a free education and 5k payment as inducements to attract them and stick it out for a couple of years. Dont like or trust Andrews but I'll give him a tick for trying.They will stick the 2 years then leave and thats going to be the problem, GP's are another story and bulk billing was a great idea but its not going to keep GP's in the system or going to remote locations.
The whole system has relied upon good will from Nurses, GP's and Ambos to keep it running but thats worn thin with CoVid and Private Insurance has become a necessity like it is in the USA and maybe we need to look at the tax system being raised in levels like in European countries to provide the necessary funding to prevent us going down that path which only leads to inequality and sub standard care for the poor.

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https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/more-than-33-000-covid-19-fines-withdrawn-in-nsw-after-legal-challenge/ar-AA14FCsE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e1ca2bd3294d4ba89d47ddd074e2a607

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More than half of the COVID-19 fines issued in New South Wales during the pandemic will be withdrawn after a court battle between a Sydney legal centre and the state government.

The NSW Supreme Court today heard two test cases brought by Redfern Legal Centre arguing the offence descriptions provided on the fine notices were too vague and therefore were legally invalid.

The Commissioner of Fines Administration's lawyer, David Kell SC, conceded the two notices did not "sufficiently state or describe the offences in general terms" nor did the fines "identify the offence-creating provision", ruling the fines invalid.

The government agreed to refund all money paid, withdraw their fines and pay the legal costs.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7167 –
Doctors and Nurses being censored, who would have thought that?... ;D

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/dr-kerryn-phelps-reveals-devastating-covid-vaccine-injury-says-doctors-have-been-censored/news-story/0c1fa02818c99a5ff65f5bf852a382cf

Good luck with any in depth research being published too especially if its findings are legally provocative  in nature and could be used
by injury affected vaccine recipients for compensation.

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Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Doctors and Nurses being censored, who would have thought that?... ;D

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/dr-kerryn-phelps-reveals-devastating-covid-vaccine-injury-says-doctors-have-been-censored/news-story/0c1fa02818c99a5ff65f5bf852a382cf

Good luck with any in depth research being published too especially if its findings are legally provocative  in nature and could be used
by injury affected vaccine recipients for compensation.
Kerryn Phelps, nuff said.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #7169 –
I'm not sure what to think about this issue of COVID testing and travel, I gather we can't have it both ways, our own freedom to move about internationally while also placing restrictions on arrivals seems untenable. So I suspect we either accept being tested and quarantined or we set foreign travellers free.

The problem I see in the short term is a resource issue. Already the US has flagged excessive numbers of arrivals from China testing positive. The problem is China's own health system is overrun, and China provides little in the way of advanced COVID infection treatment to the general public even if the resources were not stretched. So the Chinese wealthy are basically escaping China to have their COVID treated under Western systems, it's better to risk quarantine in the foreign location than rely on China's domestic system. Some rights activists claim it's alarmist, as it's only a small percent age of China's population that can afford to do this, but that small percentage can more than overwhelm Australia's health resources.

Flights are arriving in the US and UK with up to 40% of the passengers positive for COVID, is COVID treatment being outsourced by the Chinese Government?

Of course this is very profitable for private or semi-private health systems in foreign locations, but what happens to you or I if we fall ill and cannot get a bed?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"